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Post by malvernterrier on Jan 19, 2009 13:13:38 GMT 1
Well said Donnie, I agree 100%. Most Leeds fans I know see Man Utd as the team they hate the most, not us, so I tend to agree with you fellas. I do think there is more of a 'rivalry' with Leeds as they are a bigger club than us, so lots of town fans are basically jealous. It appears to mean a lot more to town fans than Leeds fans, so I don't tend to rise to the whole 'I hate Leeds' thing. Crazy post in my opinion! Why, in the name of all things sacred, should any Town fan be 'jealous' of the bin kickers? ? I am not ashamed to say that I hate l**ds utd football club. As I have said on many posts, I have some great friends who follow them.....its the club and its disgusting history of contempt and disregard for the rules and decency in general that I loath. Combined with the large number of thugs that attatch themselves to the team, thay are a repulsive club with thousands of decent fans (I really do feel sympathy with the real l**ds fans)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 13:14:35 GMT 1
I'll admit years ago I used to have an almost pathological hatred of Leeds Utd Football Club, intitially because of how they played the game under Don Revie and then because of the growing arrogance and aggression of their fans.
These days I care less about them. Perhaps that's because I've lived in Leeds on and off for over 35 years and I've grown to love the place. However, when Micky's winner hit the net at Elland Road the other month, all the old bigotry returned, well for an hour or two at least!
I think there's nothing wrong with friendly banter, it's only a game after all. Mind you, it will probably be hard trying to explain that one to the baying hoards on the train back to Leeds after we've beaten them on Valentines Day.
As for Bradford City, like most older Town fans I have no dislike of them whatsoever. In fact, Iike to see them win apart from when we play them, naturally.
AceT ;D
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Post by runner76 on Jan 19, 2009 13:16:34 GMT 1
Most Leeds fans I know see Man Utd as the team they hate the most, not us, so I tend to agree with you fellas. I do think there is more of a 'rivalry' with Leeds as they are a bigger club than us, so lots of town fans are basically jealous. It appears to mean a lot more to town fans than Leeds fans, so I don't tend to rise to the whole 'I hate Leeds' thing. Crazy post in my opinion! Why, in the name of all things sacred, should any Town fan be 'jealous' of the bin kickers? ? I am not ashamed to say that I hate l**ds utd football club. As I have said on many posts, I have some great friends who follow them.....its the club and its disgusting history of contempt and disregard for the rules and decency in general that I loath. Combined with the large number of thugs that attatch themselves to the team, thay are a repulsive club with thousands of decent fans (I really do feel sympathy with the real l**ds fans) Why a crazy post Malvern? Jealousy :
jealous (UNHAPPY) adjective unhappy and angry because someone has something or someone you want, or because you think they might take something or someone that you love away from you.I think a lot of town fans HAVE BEEN jealous of Leeds in the past - bigger ground, more fans, higher up the divisions and having more success......what's crazy about that?
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Post by malvernterrier on Jan 19, 2009 13:24:52 GMT 1
Crazy post in my opinion! Why, in the name of all things sacred, should any Town fan be 'jealous' of the bin kickers? ? I am not ashamed to say that I hate l**ds utd football club. As I have said on many posts, I have some great friends who follow them.....its the club and its disgusting history of contempt and disregard for the rules and decency in general that I loath. Combined with the large number of thugs that attatch themselves to the team, thay are a repulsive club with thousands of decent fans (I really do feel sympathy with the real l**ds fans) Why a crazy post Malvern? Jealousy :
jealous (UNHAPPY) adjective unhappy and angry because someone has something or someone you want, or because you think they might take something or someone that you love away from you.I think a lot of town fans HAVE BEEN jealous of Leeds in the past - bigger ground, more fans, higher up the divisions and having more success......what's crazy about that? Its crazy, IMHO, because of the following; I am NOT unhappy to be a Town fan I am NOT angry L**ds have NOTHING that I would want for Huddersfield Town L*8ds could not POSSIBLY take anything from me or my team. Even if they signed our future England goalie I wouldnt be jealous if it was the best for Town! I am VERY , VERY happy to be a Town fan and thank the Lord I was born into a Town family and not the sods from 15 miles down the road. I was just a bit shocked that you would feel that Town fans are 'jealous' of the binkickers. No offence intended.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 19, 2009 13:31:30 GMT 1
Why a crazy post Malvern? Jealousy :
jealous (UNHAPPY) adjective unhappy and angry because someone has something or someone you want, or because you think they might take something or someone that you love away from you.I think a lot of town fans HAVE BEEN jealous of Leeds in the past - bigger ground, more fans, higher up the divisions and having more success......what's crazy about that? Its crazy, IMHO, because of the following; I am NOT unhappy to be a Town fan I am NOT angry L**ds have NOTHING that I would want for Huddersfield Town L*8ds could not POSSIBLY take anything from me or my team. Even if they signed our future England goalie I wouldnt be jealous if it was the best for Town! I am VERY , VERY happy to be a Town fan and thank the Lord I was born into a Town family and not the sods from 15 miles down the road. I was just a bit shocked that you would feel that Town fans are 'jealous' of the binkickers. No offence intended. Firstly, I did not say you were unhappy to be a town fan. Secondly, you say Leeds have nothing you want? So, you didn't want to be in the Premierhsip of Championship when they were instead of League 1 and 2??.......
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Post by malvernterrier on Jan 19, 2009 13:43:45 GMT 1
Its crazy, IMHO, because of the following; I am NOT unhappy to be a Town fan I am NOT angry L**ds have NOTHING that I would want for Huddersfield Town L*8ds could not POSSIBLY take anything from me or my team. Even if they signed our future England goalie I wouldnt be jealous if it was the best for Town! I am VERY , VERY happy to be a Town fan and thank the Lord I was born into a Town family and not the sods from 15 miles down the road. I was just a bit shocked that you would feel that Town fans are 'jealous' of the binkickers. No offence intended. Firstly, I did not say you were unhappy to be a town fan. Secondly, you say Leeds have nothing you want? [glow=red,2,300]So, you didn't want to be in the Premierhsip of Championship when they were instead of League 1 and 2??[/glow]....... Of course I want Town to be in the higher leagues, but that dosnt mean I am jealous of l**ds!!!!!! You are saying that I should be jealous of EVERY team who are above us !!!!!!! Im no more jealous of l**ds than I am of, say, Blackpool or Charlton. Town are my team and they are unique and special to me. Why would I be jealous of l**ds utd? Please explain!
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Post by timrankhan on Jan 19, 2009 13:46:53 GMT 1
Got to say, I couldnt care less if Bradford win lose or draw, as long as we are above them and beating them I dont care. IMO it would be better if they were in our league as it guarantees a big gate if not 6 points. As for Leeds, until recently we have been poles apart, but any club with Ken Bates in charge deserves as much stick as possible. On the grand scheme of things they will unfortuntaley always be a bigger club than us. Thankfully we are a better club, not run by a total crettin.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 19, 2009 13:54:45 GMT 1
Firstly, I did not say you were unhappy to be a town fan. Secondly, you say Leeds have nothing you want? [glow=red,2,300]So, you didn't want to be in the Premierhsip of Championship when they were instead of League 1 and 2??[/glow]....... Of course I want Town to be in the higher leagues, but that dosnt mean I am jealous of l**ds!!!!!! You are saying that I should be jealous of EVERY team who are above us !!!!!!! Im no more jealous of l**ds than I am of, say, Blackpool or Charlton. Town are my team and they are unique and special to me. Why would I be jealous of l**ds utd? Please explain! This is just bloody daft fella. I can admit 100% to being angry and jealous of Leeds when they were doing well, and I got the piss taken out of me for being a town fan. I think 'Jealousy' is definitely what I felt, just not sure why you can't admit it....................
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Post by malvernterrier on Jan 19, 2009 14:21:42 GMT 1
Of course I want Town to be in the higher leagues, but that dosnt mean I am jealous of l**ds!!!!!! You are saying that I should be jealous of EVERY team who are above us !!!!!!! Im no more jealous of l**ds than I am of, say, Blackpool or Charlton. Town are my team and they are unique and special to me. Why would I be jealous of l**ds utd? Please explain! This is just bloody daft fella. I can admit 100% to being angry and jealous of Leeds when they were doing well, and I got the piss taken out of me for being a town fan. I think 'Jealousy' is definitely what I felt, just not sure why you can't admit it.................... Then we must agree to disagree........I will make one final statement....
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Post by runner76 on Jan 19, 2009 14:30:02 GMT 1
This is just bloody daft fella. I can admit 100% to being angry and jealous of Leeds when they were doing well, and I got the piss taken out of me for being a town fan. I think 'Jealousy' is definitely what I felt, just not sure why you can't admit it.................... Then we must agree to disagree........I will make one final statement.... Aye, let's be gents and agree to disagree. TTID
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Post by DuncanShearer on Jan 19, 2009 14:38:10 GMT 1
Hmmm where do I sit with this debate??
I'll start with Bradford. I don' t consider them to be anything more than an irritant, a spot on the old arse, an itch that you can't quite reach, a ginger haired step kid. I don't dislike them as such they just annoy me - mainly because their fans seem to think that a two year spell in the top flight against a backdrop of utter mediocrity makes them a bigger and better club than Town. Delusions of grandeur are a real annoyance when it comes to Bradford City. I dont mind the derby match with them but I think a the dose of reality they are getting now is just what was required to pop that spot, reach that itch, discipline the step kid.
Leeds are a different proposition. I'm too young to appreciate a time when we were on an even footing with them but working in Leeds I witness first hand the arrogance of some of the supporters of this football club - not all it has to be said but some is enough for me. Like Bradford it isn't an irrational hatred as such, more annoyance at the fact that they still consider themselves to be all conquering when in reality there history is not that rich, they have rarely been all conquering. I can't name another set of fans that compare to Leeds when it comes to complete arrogance and ignorance born out of such ideas of false status and an unconcious need to be considered equal to the likes of Man United and Liverpool.
I mean who else would consider a side that finished runners up on so many occasions in the 60's and 70's to warrant the title of great? I could understand if they had been the dominant force in the English game but they have never been and never will be, only on three occasions have they held the title of "best" and even in those cases there are big question marks regarding the honesty in which such heights were scaled.
Yep - I'm with malvern - to a far lesser extent I'm sure, but I dislike LUFC, a bigger club than Town I confess, but not because they are superior in any way, not because they are more prestigous, or have more romance attached to their name, its all down to geography and nothing more. Leeds is a bigger place and they get bigger gates because of it but give me HTFC over LUFC any day of an week in any year in any decade (20's would be nice though), in any century (20th would be nice though), and on and on and on! Teh feeling might not be reciptocated to the fullest extent but i'm pretty sure given the history of both clubs that we both feel the same about Bradford.........poor little rhubarb and custard city.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 14:52:45 GMT 1
Hmmm where do I sit with this debate?? I'll start with Bradford. I don' t consider them to be anything more than an irritant, a spot on the old arse, an itch that you can't quite reach, a ginger haired step kid. I don't dislike them as such they just annoy me - mainly because their fans seem to think that a two year spell in the top flight against a backdrop of utter mediocrity makes them a bigger and better club than Town. Delusions of grandeur are a real annoyance when it comes to Bradford City. I dont mind the derby match with them but I think a the dose of reality they are getting now is just what was required to pop that spot, reach that itch, discipline the step kid. Leeds are a different proposition. I'm too young to appreciate a time when we were on an even footing with them but working in Leeds I witness first hand the arrogance of some of the supporters of this football club - not all it has to be said but some is enough for me. Like Bradford it isn't an irrational hatred as such, more annoyance at the fact that they still consider themselves to be all conquering when in reality there history is not that rich, they have rarely been all conquering. I can't name another set of fans that compare to Leeds when it comes to complete arrogance and ignorance born out of such ideas of false status and an unconcious need to be considered equal to the likes of Man United and Liverpool. I mean who else would consider a side that finished runners up on so many occasions in the 60's and 70's to warrant the title of great? I could understand if they had been the dominant force in the English game but they have never been and never will be, only on three occasions have they held the title of "best" and even in those cases there are big question marks regarding the honesty in which such heights were scaled. Yep - I'm with malvern - to a far lesser extent I'm sure, but I dislike LUFC, a bigger club than Town I confess, but not because they are superior in any way, not because they are more prestigous, or have more romance attached to their name, its all down to geography and nothing more. Leeds is a bigger place and they get bigger gates because of it but give me HTFC over LUFC any day of an week in any year in any decade (20's would be nice though), in any century (20th would be nice though), and on and on and on! Teh feeling might not be reciptocated to the fullest extent but i'm pretty sure given the history of both clubs that we both feel the same about Bradford.........poor little rhubarb and custard city. A well written and entertaining post. And one that serves to prove that you have absolutely no understanding of the mentality of Leeds fans. You hate what you BELIEVE Leeds United to be, but what you actually hate is this gross characature of a club that you in your own minds have created.
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Post by DuncanShearer on Jan 19, 2009 15:14:52 GMT 1
A well written and entertaining post. And one that serves to prove that you have absolutely no understanding of the mentality of Leeds fans. You hate what you BELIEVE Leeds United to be, but what you actually hate is this gross characature of a club that you in your own minds have created. Cheers Can only speak from personal experience Hull and working in the Beeston / Hunslet area thats my experience. Like I said its not all Leeds fans are the same - I work with some Leeds fans who see things as they are, you yourself seem to have a toungue in cheek attitude to it also. Sadly the opinions and attitudes of a few do enough to tarnish the rest though and for me that's enough to foster a dislike for LUFC. On the flip side though I think LUFC are currently getting there dose of reality and I dont think they will fall any further down the pecking order, working in Leeds its nice to get the feeling of aprehension and exitement before a derby match - its something we havent had at Town for many a year, or at least for me it doesn't hit the same heights with the Bradford thing.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 15:40:29 GMT 1
A well written and entertaining post. And one that serves to prove that you have absolutely no understanding of the mentality of Leeds fans. You hate what you BELIEVE Leeds United to be, but what you actually hate is this gross characature of a club that you in your own minds have created. Cheers Can only speak from personal experience Hull and working in the Beeston / Hunslet area thats my experience. Like I said its not all Leeds fans are the same - I work with some Leeds fans who see things as they are, you yourself seem to have a toungue in cheek attitude to it also. Sadly the opinions and attitudes of a few do enough to tarnish the rest though and for me that's enough to foster a dislike for LUFC. On the flip side though I think LUFC are currently getting there dose of reality and I dont think they will fall any further down the pecking order, working in Leeds its nice to get the feeling of aprehension and exitement before a derby match - its something we havent had at Town for many a year, or at least for me it doesn't hit the same heights with the Bradford thing. Fair enough, my previous post wasn't really aimed at you. It isn't easy being a Leeds supporter as often one finds oneself in the unenviable position of having to defend the indefensible, but defend them we must. Another thing is that I'm not from Leeds or even West Yorkshire, I'm from gods own part of gods own county in the East, so I don't feel any of the rivalry with yourselves, Bradford etc, I understand that it will be different for those coming from the heavy woollen area for example. We have our own rivalry between the Hull and East Yorkshire whites and those passionately loyal fans of Hull city, hell in the late eighties/ early nineties they were only getting 3000 at home and many of them were Hull based Leeds fans who didn't go away, suddenly they have 25,000 who have supported them throught thick and thin all their lives, miraculous. Anyway, I digress, enough about Hull City, that's for another board.
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Post by SN0W on Jan 19, 2009 15:44:21 GMT 1
Leeds fans are no different to the rest of us and should be treated with equal respect and dignity. It is not their fault that nature left them a couple of notches behind on the old evolutionary scale, and terms like neanderthal and bin-kicker should not be used as they are regionally offensive. I'm sure that, given time, they will catch up, but in the meantime we should all embrace the diversity and celebrate the results harmoniously when we crush the spiteful little b*st*rds once more.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 15:49:56 GMT 1
You see, the funny thing is I can understand why you hate us, if I supported anyone else I think I'd hate us too.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 19, 2009 15:51:59 GMT 1
Cheers Can only speak from personal experience Hull and working in the Beeston / Hunslet area thats my experience. Like I said its not all Leeds fans are the same - I work with some Leeds fans who see things as they are, you yourself seem to have a toungue in cheek attitude to it also. Sadly the opinions and attitudes of a few do enough to tarnish the rest though and for me that's enough to foster a dislike for LUFC. On the flip side though I think LUFC are currently getting there dose of reality and I dont think they will fall any further down the pecking order, working in Leeds its nice to get the feeling of aprehension and exitement before a derby match - its something we havent had at Town for many a year, or at least for me it doesn't hit the same heights with the Bradford thing. Fair enough, my previous post wasn't really aimed at you. It isn't easy being a Leeds supporter as often one finds oneself in the unenviable position of having to defend the indefensible, but defend them we must. Another thing is that I'm not from Leeds or even West Yorkshire, I'm from gods own part of gods own county in the East, so I don't feel any of the rivalry with yourselves, Bradford etc, I understand that it will be different for those coming from the heavy woollen area for example. We have our own rivalry between the Hull and East Yorkshire whites and those passionately loyal fans of Hull city, hell in the late eighties/ early nineties they were only getting 3000 at home and many of them were Hull based Leeds fans who didn't go away, suddenly they have 25,000 who have supported them throught thick and thin all their lives, miraculous. Anyway, I digress, enough about Hull City, that's for another board. Thats basically what I was saying - In your Leeds supporting lifetime we have been poles apart up until now. But where there is a mixture of fans there will be rivalry regardless, you dont get this as your from east yorks. Fully agree on Hull however, tin pot numpties. I've been to Boothferry Park and there was more of us in the Supermarket stand than they had in the entire ground. Amazing where the other 22,000 have come from! ;D
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Post by malvernterrier on Jan 19, 2009 16:05:53 GMT 1
Hmmm where do I sit with this debate?? I'll start with Bradford. I don' t consider them to be anything more than an irritant, a spot on the old arse, an itch that you can't quite reach, a ginger haired step kid. I don't dislike them as such they just annoy me - mainly because their fans seem to think that a two year spell in the top flight against a backdrop of utter mediocrity makes them a bigger and better club than Town. Delusions of grandeur are a real annoyance when it comes to Bradford City. I dont mind the derby match with them but I think a the dose of reality they are getting now is just what was required to pop that spot, reach that itch, discipline the step kid. Leeds are a different proposition. I'm too young to appreciate a time when we were on an even footing with them but working in Leeds I witness first hand the arrogance of some of the supporters of this football club - not all it has to be said but some is enough for me. Like Bradford it isn't an irrational hatred as such, more annoyance at the fact that they still consider themselves to be all conquering when in reality there history is not that rich, they have rarely been all conquering. I can't name another set of fans that compare to Leeds when it comes to complete arrogance and ignorance born out of such ideas of false status and an unconcious need to be considered equal to the likes of Man United and Liverpool. I mean who else would consider a side that finished runners up on so many occasions in the 60's and 70's to warrant the title of great? I could understand if they had been the dominant force in the English game but they have never been and never will be, only on three occasions have they held the title of "best" and even in those cases there are big question marks regarding the honesty in which such heights were scaled. Yep - I'm with malvern - to a far lesser extent I'm sure, but I dislike LUFC, a bigger club than Town I confess, but not because they are superior in any way, not because they are more prestigous, or have more romance attached to their name, its all down to geography and nothing more. Leeds is a bigger place and they get bigger gates because of it but give me HTFC over LUFC any day of an week in any year in any decade (20's would be nice though), in any century (20th would be nice though), and on and on and on! Teh feeling might not be reciptocated to the fullest extent but i'm pretty sure given the history of both clubs that we both feel the same about Bradford.........poor little rhubarb and custard city. A well written and entertaining post. And one that serves to prove that you have absolutely no understanding of the mentality of Leeds fans. You hate what you BELIEVE Leeds United to be, but what you actually hate is this gross characature of a club that you in your own minds have created. Quite, quite wrong Hull me old mucker! I grew up through school and drunk throughout my teens and 20s with l**ds fans. Some who were l**ds mad and some who went along for the 'punch up' each week. I believe I know the mentality of the l**ds fan. We didnt create the tainted history of your club.....untrustworthy and corrupt people at your club did. From the 'Little black book' of Charlton, to the fights on the hallowed turf of Wembley, through the 'bungs and bribes' scandals of the late 60s/early 70s, along with the sad and pathetic cases of football violence perpetrated by the thosands of thugs wearing your colours. (Even now your fans wear badges stating 'l**ds service crew.....number 1 when it mattered') Only two seasons ago your name was dragged through the mud by your fans who couldnt face an Ipswich goal that virtually relegated your club. Then bates quickly threw your club into admin to try and stop a next season points deduction. Even 1 month ago your chairman rode roughshod over a 'lesser' club to steal their manager against their wishes! We didnt make this up in our minds Hull......your club is, was and probably will be in the future, guilty as charged. I get slated on here by some of my own fans for my hostility toward your club.....I dont care. I once heard a bloke in Roberttown WMC (a man who I always listened to when he spoke, cos he was a learned and clever man, and he was usually a quiet man). He said, in the middle of a football conversation, that l**ds utd had brought ridicule and bad feeling toward Yorkshire football teams. I believe thats true. Usually the first question I am asked down here upon meeting new lads in pubs and at local football games, is 'where you from?'. I say Yorkshire and they automaticaly think I support your team. When I tell them Im a Town fan they are usually keen to learn about my team. They are, however, quite aware of l**ds utd (so yes, you ARE famous) but apart from the 2 or 3 that support l**ds down here, they all to a man dislike your club and have a little laugh at your downfall. Your fans may be feared but they are not respected! |||||||||I like you Hull cos you have a great sense of humor and can take stick. My missus says I tell the truth too much.......thats how I was brought up. I dont like your team but I take folk as I find em and as I said before I have loads of mates who follow l**ds. Im glad Im a Town fan though.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 16:09:34 GMT 1
I'm giving terrier legend a positive for that, nice to see we agree on summat. I've always held Huddersfield town on much higher regard than Hull city, you have a proud history and a good strong consistant support considering the size of the town, things Hull can only dream of. Yes I'm guilty as charged of not supporting my "local" team, but can you blame me?
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 16:22:16 GMT 1
A well written and entertaining post. And one that serves to prove that you have absolutely no understanding of the mentality of Leeds fans. You hate what you BELIEVE Leeds United to be, but what you actually hate is this gross characature of a club that you in your own minds have created. Quite, quite wrong Hull me old mucker! I grew up through school and drunk throughout my teens and 20s with l**ds fans. Some who were l**ds mad and some who went along for the 'punch up' each week. I believe I know the mentality of the l**ds fan. We didnt create the tainted history of your club.....untrustworthy and corrupt people at your club did. From the 'Little black book' of Charlton, to the fights on the hallowed turf of Wembley, through the 'bungs and bribes' scandals of the late 60s/early 70s, along with the sad and pathetic cases of football violence perpetrated by the thosands of thugs wearing your colours. (Even now your fans wear badges stating 'l**ds service crew.....number 1 when it mattered') Only two seasons ago your name was dragged through the mud by your fans who couldnt face an Ipswich goal that virtually relegated your club. Then bates quickly threw your club into admin to try and stop a next season points deduction. Even 1 month ago your chairman rode roughshod over a 'lesser' club to steal their manager against their wishes! We didnt make this up in our minds Hull......your club is, was and probably will be in the future, guilty as charged. I get slated on here by some of my own fans for my hostility toward your club.....I dont care. I once heard a bloke in Roberttown WMC (a man who I always listened to when he spoke, cos he was a learned and clever man, and he was usually a quiet man). He said, in the middle of a football conversation, that l**ds utd had brought ridicule and bad feeling toward Yorkshire football teams. I believe thats true. Usually the first question I am asked down here upon meeting new lads in pubs and at local football games, is 'where you from?'. I say Yorkshire and they automaticaly think I support your team. When I tell them Im a Town fan they are usually keen to learn about my team. They are, however, quite aware of l**ds utd (so yes, you ARE famous) but apart from the 2 or 3 that support l**ds down here, they all to a man dislike your club and have a little laugh at your downfall. Your fans may be feared but they are not respected! |||||||||I like you Hull cos you have a great sense of humor and can take stick. My missus says I tell the truth too much.......thats how I was brought up. I dont like your team but I take folk as I find em and as I said before I have loads of mates who follow l**ds. Im glad Im a Town fan though. ;D Fair enough mate, you know best. As I've said, if I wasn't a Leeds fan I'd probably hate Leeds myself, if that makes sense.
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Post by jonnyhtfc90 on Jan 19, 2009 16:28:38 GMT 1
...NO! I don't know if all you moaners realise but Leeds are our closest and most hated rivals. They were also very close to being one of the top teams in our country, alot more recently than we were. Basically they shat on us from a very great height in most of the years that you guys have been watching Town. Football teams close to each other should dislike the other team. Its the un-written rule of football supporting, think Liverpool - Man U, Chelsea - Fulham, Sheff Utd - Barnsley. Its fun to have an enemy, its fun to laugh at their losses and cringe at their crushing victories. Its fun to go to work on a Monday morning and have a right good ol' banter with the Leeds fans about the weekend's results. I don't get the same banter with the Wolves fan or the Everton fan, because I couldn't care less if they win or lose. So NO I won't stop going on about it, I won't stop singing "We all hate Leeds scum" at every game I attend, I will wear the 2-1 t-shirt with pride, I will buy the end of year DVD to watch that away game over and over, I will keep talking about 14/02/09 and what a great day out its going to be, I will go to work and (hopefully) look down on the Leeds fans in weeks/months/years/ to come. You guys need to remember sometimes that football is all about fun, its why you go to the game every Saturday. The euphoria you get from watching your team score a goal is fantastic, the euphoria you get from watching your team score a goal against your bitter rivals is fantastic, the euphoria you get from watching your team score a goal against your bitter rivals on the 93rd minute at their fortress is even better, remember that the next time you b1tch or moan or complain about people having fun and try to remember why you even bother supporting a football team. I get no euphoria from them going 1-0 down to some random other team midway through the first half, nor do I feel gutted when they get the equaliser. I don't like Leeds, yet a lot of people on this board clearly hate Leeds more than they love town.
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Post by SN0W on Jan 19, 2009 16:35:26 GMT 1
.... to be truthful they make good derby matches but outside of that they are just another team.... but you do have to wind them up when the opportunity arises (have you got your ticket yet, Hull ?)
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Jan 19, 2009 16:46:12 GMT 1
Agree the the majority above. It depended were you lived. Was born and brought up in Dewsbury, Bennett lane, and most people around me supported L##ds. But when I started watching Town in 69 we were getting promoted to the old Div 1 and I didn't even know/care which division Bradford, PA & City, and Barnsley were in. Then from 70-72 we had the games against Leeds, Jimmy Lawsons goal is still one of my favorite memories, and from there for me that's when they became our/my No1 rivals. Off course as the nightmare began to unfold in the mid 70's I realised that these places did in fact have football teams!
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 17:23:28 GMT 1
.... to be truthful they make good derby matches but outside of that they are just another team.... but you do have to wind them up when the opportunity arises (have you got your ticket yet, Hull ?) Dunno snowy, we never find out until about a week before the game. All I know is that we have 3900 to be allocated amongst about 7000 applications, being a ST holder I stand a fair chance but not overly confident as I applied late. If I do miss out I'll only have a few days to sort something in the home end, which won't be easy if they are making you buy tickets for 3 games. Can anyone confirm if this is true? Not that I'm too bothered, not like it's a big game or owt like.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 19, 2009 17:25:43 GMT 1
Apparently there are only 300 or so tickets left in home ends, which considering you have to buy 3 other home games I dont think you or many other scummers stand much chance.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 17:33:40 GMT 1
Apparently there are only 300 or so tickets left in home ends, which considering you have to buy 3 other home games I dont think you or many other scummers stand much chance. Oh well, not too fussed, I'll just listen on't wireless then go out and celebrate/drown the old sorrows round town. Oops, forgot it was valentines day, s'pose I'd better do summat with the missus.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 19, 2009 17:44:11 GMT 1
Apparently there are only 300 or so tickets left in home ends, which considering you have to buy 3 other home games I dont think you or many other scummers stand much chance. Oh well, not too fussed, I'll just listen on't wireless then go out and celebrate/drown the old sorrows round town. Oops, forgot it was valentines day, s'pose I'd better do summat with the missus. F**k the Mrs ;D
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Post by philex on Jan 19, 2009 17:46:35 GMT 1
Oh well, not too fussed, I'll just listen on't wireless then go out and celebrate/drown the old sorrows round town. Oops, forgot it was valentines day, s'pose I'd better do summat with the missus. Don't bother, I've already told my lass Val. day has been postponed to the 15th, and not to expect much because I'm fitting in Bristol and Leicester before the 14th! It's all about putting your foot down
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 19, 2009 17:49:06 GMT 1
Oh well, not too fussed, I'll just listen on't wireless then go out and celebrate/drown the old sorrows round town. Oops, forgot it was valentines day, s'pose I'd better do summat with the missus. F**k the Mrs ;D No chance, we've been married too long for owt like that.
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Post by BlackLive on Jan 19, 2009 19:54:15 GMT 1
I DISAGREE 100%......L**ds are and always will be Towns number one rivals, and l**ds fans who pretend that we are nothing to them only say that to hide their embarressment. I was in secondary school untill 1973 and went through a lot of piss taking from the 'yids' as they vied with Liverpool for the championship of England. EVERY SINGLE ONE of Town fans stuck solidly to Town through bad years and I still meet with fans my age (52) at away games who I grew up with. On the other hand, I know of quite a few l**ds fans who have watched Town on many occations and a few who have turned to us completly. I would rather eat my own earwax than pay to watch l**ds if they are not playing Town. Now, it seems, we are a better team than them......have better (not more) fans than them.....have a far far far better chairman than them........more expectation than them......and we are above them in the table. Happy days, but I cannot forget the dark days of the 4th division as we lost 4-2 at Northampton, were 2nd bottom of the league and even got our sherpa van smashed up on the way home by the Northampton lot. At the same time l**ds were flying high and treating us with utter contempt in the pubs and clubs of Heckmondwike/Liversedge. The worm has turned and I am going to ENJOY it while it lasts (long may it do so) *begins to sing as loud as he can I've said it before and I think this adds weight to my theory, it depends on where you are from. Those of us from Hecky/Dewsbury/Batley (basically spen valley and heavy woollen area) tend to hate Leeds more because we come from an area with a 50/50 split pretty much. Like Malverns experience, all through School us Town fans were subjected to piss taking from Leeds (And with good reason, they were flying high and we were pratting around selling our best players in the championship). Similarly, i've only ever met about 3 Bradford fans, theres certainly none in Hecky, none went to my School so while yes they are our rivals I personally dont dislike them as much as Leeds cos I've never had that banter with them. If i'd been brough up/gone to School closer to Bradford im sure it would be the other way round. You see I went to school and college in Hecky, were obviosuly there was a lot of Leeds fans present, all of them I can remember were cocky and arrogant, not just about Leeds Utd, but about everything. I also went to Uni in Bradford, for my sins, so know a lot of Bradford City fans, I wouldn't say I hate their club, I did however always enjoy those games and the bragging rights we had after!
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