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Post by terrierZed on Jan 23, 2009 20:32:08 GMT 1
Spare a thought for poor old Chris Lucketti and David Unsworth who've gotta train against all these new wonderkids day in day out. ;D
If I were then I'd pack my bags and leave Town sharpish as it could get embarrassing for the old timers.
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Post by townfan4ever on Jan 23, 2009 20:33:55 GMT 1
I would love to see Ainsworth V Unsworth, now that has got to be a laugh!
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Post by htfcjames2008 on Jan 23, 2009 20:51:31 GMT 1
they should just get rid of them, release them or sell them ( maybe halifax even they can buy them)
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Post by kosi on Jan 23, 2009 21:13:44 GMT 1
A bit harsh IMO. Majority on here were creaming their pants when we signed them 2. Anyone can be wise after an event!
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Post by calken on Jan 23, 2009 21:25:16 GMT 1
They are still experienced players. You must remember that they might be key to the improved performances of Butler and Clarke. There are plenty on slow experienced defenders in the league. I think it's good that the squad gets to practice against all types of players.
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Post by waterloo1815 on Jan 23, 2009 21:56:54 GMT 1
A bit harsh IMO. Majority on here were creaming their pants when we signed them 2. Anyone can be wise after an event! Some of the player bashing on here makes me puke!!! Players like Unsworth and Lucketti have played at a lot higher level than the majority of our squad for a great many years. Unsworth wouldnt have come anywhere near Huddersfield in his prime. The truth was we werent in his class. Not the other way round. He was a genuinely class act. The problem with half the tosspots that are slating the likes of Unsworth and Lucketti arent even old enough to have seen them in thier prime. |
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Post by waterloo1815 on Jan 23, 2009 21:58:46 GMT 1
Spare a thought for poor old Chris Lucketti and David Unsworth who've gotta train against all these new wonderkids day in day out. ;D If I were then I'd pack my bags and leave Town sharpish as it could get embarrassing for the old timers. Yeah.....the likes of Unsworth and Lucketti arent fit to lace the boots of our new wonderkids eh?  |
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Post by panasonicgeese on Jan 23, 2009 22:00:27 GMT 1
Unsworth and Lucketti have huge experince to offer both on the pitch and in training. The younger one's will learn a hell of a lot off them.
Yes they may not be in the team but in the bigger picture still have a lot to offer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2009 22:02:03 GMT 1
I still believe that these two could be callled upon, and put in a good performance if needed.
Lets not right 'em off, they're Town players and when they wear the blue and white stripes, we should give them as much backing as we can.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2009 22:05:18 GMT 1
A bit harsh IMO. Majority on here were creaming their pants when we signed them 2. Anyone can be wise after an event! Some of the player bashing on here makes me puke!!! Players like Unsworth and Lucketti have played at a lot higher level than the majority of our squad for a great many years. Unsworth wouldnt have come anywhere near Huddersfield in his prime. The truth was we werent in his class. Not the other way round. He was a genuinely class act. The problem with half the tosspots that are slating the likes of Unsworth and Lucketti arent even old enough to have seen them in thier prime. Very true. The vast majority of posters were screaming to sign up Unsworth after his first game. Similarly most were posting how great Lucketti had been for Southampton, and what a great addition he would be. I thought they were great signings at the time, but like many I got it wrong, and have found the pair a great disappointment. |
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Post by kosi on Jan 23, 2009 22:13:04 GMT 1
Wonderkids??!! :-D
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Post by terrierZed on Jan 23, 2009 22:15:50 GMT 1
I was only joking to be honest, ive got a lot of respect for lucketti and unsworth, they were terrific players during their prime, even if they may well be past it now, in terms of pace and fitness anyway.
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 23, 2009 22:23:59 GMT 1
Spare a thought for poor old Chris Lucketti and David Unsworth who've gotta train against all these new wonderkids day in day out. ;D If I were then I'd pack my bags and leave Town sharpish as it could get embarrassing for the old timers. Yeah.....the likes of Unsworth and Lucketti arent fit to lace the boots of our new wonderkids eh? Is that what he said? No. The 'likes of Unsworth and Lucketti' are now not good enough for our first team. You can go on about how great they were all you want but they aren't good enough for our first team anymore; their collective performances this season have proved that. It seemed as though they'd both be good when they signed but it's clear that they're not good enough anymore. I haven't seen anyone denying that they were both good players in their prime and have both enjoyed good careers, but they're past their best and are turning into an expensive liability. |
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Post by jimharrogate on Jan 23, 2009 22:36:57 GMT 1
Agree with you Waterloo there are some real to55ers on this site.
Kids no doubt who haven't a clue.
Like I said last week can we have a site for grown ups.
Luketti and maybe Unsworth could do a great job for this club.
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 23, 2009 22:38:57 GMT 1
Agree with you Waterloo there are some real to55ers on this site. Kids no doubt who haven't a clue. Like I said last week can we have a site for grown ups. Luketti and maybe Unsworth could do a great job for this club. For their wages though I'd rather have them on as coaches on a cheaper wage then what they're doing sat in the reserves. |
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Post by sunflower on Jan 23, 2009 22:43:33 GMT 1
If (or more likely, WHEN)Clarke or Butler are injured or suspended, who will come in? Lucketti, of course because we've not got much other options! Still a part to play and i think he'd do well, but the pair of em are definitely Ternents most expensive mistakes.
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 23, 2009 22:48:34 GMT 1
If (or more likely, WHEN)Clarke or Butler are injured or suspended, who will come in? Lucketti, of course because we've not got much other options! Still a part to play and i think he'd do well, but the pair of em are definitely Ternents most expensive mistakes. Tom Clarke? Not referring to you but I think it's priceless how some people on here think their opinion is more valid because they're older. I'VE SEEN UNSWORTH AND LUCKETTI PLAY AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND HAVE A GOOD CAREER; THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING NOW THOUGH! We're trying to run a promotion winning Football team, not a charity for some formerly good players; we're not going to keep players on the basis that they were once good. We should attempt to get rid of Unsworth asap, and we should let Lucketti go if someone comes in for him. We can find players of similar ability playing wise for a fraction of their wages. |
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Post by waterloo1815 on Jan 23, 2009 22:51:57 GMT 1
Yeah.....the likes of Unsworth and Lucketti arent fit to lace the boots of our new wonderkids eh? but they're past their best and are turning into an expensive liability. I never said he did....i was exercising some sarcasm aimed at the initial post and those who post things along the same lines. They signed contracts that were offered to them. I doubt that Unsworth and Lucketti had ST's arm up his back during negotiations. Expensive liabilities or not, they had both been successfully playing at a higher level only a few months prior to thier arrival. So its not inconceivable that they were deemed to have something left to offer. We are playing 3rd tier football after all. The initial post is one in a long line of negative posts about some of our players. None of us know the contributions the senior player make to the squad. All of a sudden theyre not flavour of the month and everyone turns on them. People were screaming for Parker, sadly he hasnt developed into the goal messiah and people are talking of offloading him. The way we turn against our own is wrong on so many levels. |
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Post by waterloo1815 on Jan 23, 2009 22:55:08 GMT 1
I'VE SEEN UNSWORTH AND LUCKETTI PLAY AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND HAVE A GOOD CAREER; THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING NOW THOUGH! They were playing Championship football only LAST season!!!! |
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 23, 2009 22:58:40 GMT 1
but they're past their best and are turning into an expensive liability. I never said he did....i was exercising some sarcasm aimed at the initial post and those who post things along the same lines. They signed contracts that were offered to them. I doubt that Unsworth and Lucketti had ST's arm up his back during negotiations. Expensive liabilities or not, they had both been successfully playing at a higher level only a few months prior to thier arrival. So its not inconceivable that they were deemed to have something left to offer. We are playing 3rd tier football after all. The initial post is one in a long line of negative posts about some of our players. None of us know the contributions the senior player make to the squad. All of a sudden theyre not flavour of the month and everyone turns on them. People were screaming for Parker, sadly he hasnt developed into the goal messiah and people are talking of offloading him. The way we turn against our own is wrong on so many levels. I was in favour of both of them signing, I'll admit that. Unsworth looked good vs. Arsenal in pre-season and Lucketti was billed as a better player in the mould of Page; they seemed like perfect additions. They've not made the impression that was required though and given that they're both on hefty packages it's in our best interests that they're moved on. If we let Unsworth leave for example, we may have funds for an additional loanee striker; which given that we look as though we're going to be relying on one incoming striker to give us enough firepower for promotion, could be invaluable. We also now have 3 other left backs and Unsworth is the weaker of the 3 existing ones and Werling is being billed to be better than him. I'm not blaming them for signing for us; they're both honest professionals and it's likely that they're helping our younger players progress. I'm not suggesting we get rid of them for the sake of it as some are, but it's in ours (and probably theirs) that we part company. |
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Post by waterloo1815 on Jan 23, 2009 23:11:26 GMT 1
SSH.......I cant argue with any of that although Werling remains to be seen.
But my point is do we as fans really need to kick them from behind as we push them out the door.
I know a few S'hampton fans who say Lucketti kept them up last season.
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 23, 2009 23:17:07 GMT 1
SSH.......I cant argue with any of that although Werling remains to be seen. But my point is do we as fans really need to kick them from behind as we push them out the door. I know a few S'hampton fans who say Lucketti kept them up last season. Yeah, I see your point. I'd rather fans be making sly digs on here rather than giving them grief at matches etc, but neither is ideal. Some of the players that a lot of us agree need to be moved on for us to move forward have been good servants to the club. We can't argue with Worthington's level of commitment, we can't claim that Kamara hasn't given 110% effort everytime he's played... In an ideal world we'd give them all a pat on the back and wish them the best of luck in future and hope they enjoy a successful career. |
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Post by bigdavek on Jan 24, 2009 1:09:06 GMT 1
I believe both Lucketti & Unsworth are doing a lot of coaching at training both with the academy and the 1st team defenders. I also think as stated before, if needed neither would let us down if called upon.
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Post by terrierashton on Jan 24, 2009 3:08:43 GMT 1
Both deserve a chance IMO. Especially Lucketti, he is a better stand-in than anything we have. Most league 1 clubs would have him as choice; as would we if Nathan Clarke had not responded to the challenge he represented.
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Post by presidentwu on Jan 24, 2009 9:20:23 GMT 1
Thought initially that Lucketti was a good buy, too. But the Unsworth signing, for all his alleged contribution to providing invaluable experience to the young lads in Town's squad, just showed me how unaware Stan Ternent was when it came to knowing that league 1 can be a bit faster than people generally give it credit for. ST, as a professional, should have known this - and should have said so if he was bringing in Unsworth with a coaching role more in mind - Crikey, Unsworth was always a big lad, but his lack of mobility was from the outset pretty clear for all to see.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 24, 2009 9:38:46 GMT 1
Unsworth must be finished now. I agree with the points made in defence of his signing, amazing how many people are wise after the event yet who were demanding Stan signed him. But with 3 other left backs I can't imagine a scenario where he'll get another game. Either make him a coach in the academy or release him.
Lucketti on the other hand could very well still be needed and I think he wouldn't let us down. He was immense at Colchester and an still turn in a good performance. At some point we are bound to be hit with suspensions and injuries to our defence and he would be good to have in reserve.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2009 11:06:30 GMT 1
Agree with you Waterloo there are some real to55ers on this site. Kids no doubt who haven't a clue. Like I said last week can we have a site for grown ups. Luketti and maybe Unsworth could do a great job for this club. Have a stroll along to The Buxton Lounge for a brandy and cigar- It's still a bit quiet in there. |
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Post by midlander on Jan 24, 2009 12:11:57 GMT 1
Thought initially that Lucketti was a good buy, too. But the Unsworth signing, for all his alleged contribution to providing invaluable experience to the young lads in Town's squad, just showed me how unaware Stan Ternent was when it came to knowing that league 1 can be a bit faster than people generally give it credit for. ST, as a professional, should have known this - and should have said so if he was bringing in Unsworth with a coaching role more in mind - Crikey, Unsworth was always a big lad, but his lack of mobility was from the outset pretty clear for all to see. Gregan has about the same pace and turning circle as Unsworth and yet comfortably had our forwards in his pocket all day long! I actually think that Unsworth would do fine under the current set-up (I don't think he'll get much chance with the competition as it is though). With our pace now, teams are going to think twice about a cavalier approach against us, allowing our full-backs to push further on. Unsworth is still quality with the ball at his feet and I wouldn't be writing either of them off yet. I think Lucketti will still have a part to play this season. |
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