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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2009 20:22:50 GMT 1
As good as Cadamarteri has been, all he has is his pace and power. When up against a good full back like he was today, it showed up his lack of skill and i cant remember him getting past him once. This is why i think Ainsworth will be a quality signing as he has more pace than cadders but is also fairly skillfull too.
Gutted about today, dominated for 60 minutes but seemed to run out of steam and our heads went down once we fell behind.
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Post by htafc on Jan 24, 2009 20:26:43 GMT 1
a bleep test is need for fitness
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Jan 24, 2009 20:46:15 GMT 1
to be fair, i thought cads murdered their full back first half resulting in pearson changing it at half time. second half and you have a valid point
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2009 22:07:41 GMT 1
Cads had a very good first 25 mins, and a very bad 65 minutes after that. But its his first bad game for a long time.
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Post by monkey on Jan 24, 2009 22:09:26 GMT 1
Was easily our best player in the 1st half, all of our attacks went through him.
Wasn't as good 2nd, but lets face it, who was?
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Post by chaz2508 on Jan 24, 2009 22:09:54 GMT 1
IMO Cads did us proud for most of the game as before the match he was practing his crossing and when it came to the match he was doing his crossing like he had when he was warming up and yet the defence hadnt realised :S
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2009 22:10:05 GMT 1
Cads had a very good first 25 mins, and a very bad 65 minutes after that. But its his first bad game for a long time. It wasnt him playing good or bad that i was referring to. What i said last night was that he isnt very skillfull, just all pace and power but some shot me down for such a comment. Ainsworth will offer a much greater threat imo |
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Post by lcfc on Jan 24, 2009 22:10:39 GMT 1
Thought he terrorised Berner for the majority of the first half to be honest. When Berner moved into the middle & Mattock came on at left back he was much quieter.
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Post by The Real True Blue on Jan 24, 2009 22:10:40 GMT 1
a bleep test is need for fitness A bleep test was needed for me after about an hour!!!  |
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Post by monkey on Jan 24, 2009 22:14:38 GMT 1
Cads had a very good first 25 mins, and a very bad 65 minutes after that. But its his first bad game for a long time. It wasnt him playing good or bad that i was referring to. What i said last night was that he isnt very skillfull, just all pace and power but some shot me down for such a comment. Ainsworth will offer a much greater threat imo You actually said that he didn't get past the full back, which he did throughout the 1st half. Undoubtedly, Roberts is one of our most skillful players, and pacey, but in my opinion he had a very muted game. |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 25, 2009 11:29:46 GMT 1
to be fair, i thought cads murdered their full back first half resulting in pearson changing it at half time. second half and you have a valid point they changed their right bk at half time coz he couldn't cope with roberts. cads did nothin all game apart from win a few corners by crossing it in to thier left back who had cads in his pocket all game! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 12:46:26 GMT 1
well guess it had to happen.. now its Cadders turn to be the target for certain fans.. [/quote Nope, not at all. But you seemed to have some problem with my suggestion that Ainsworth will offer far more than cadders down the right. At the end of the day this is all pointless as Cadamarteri will be injured again in the not too distant future. |
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Post by boothys9iron on Jan 25, 2009 13:10:45 GMT 1
The point is Clarke didn't bring Ainsworth and Pilkington and Werling in to sit on the bench, there here because these are the areas that Clarke thinks needs strengthening!
Give it a few games and Cads, Williams and Jevons /Parker will all be warming the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 13:13:06 GMT 1
The point is Clarke didn't bring Ainsworth and Pilkington and Werling in to sit on the bench, there here because these are the areas that Clarke thinks needs strengthening! Give it a few games and Cads, Williams and Jevons /Parker will all be warming the bench. Williams doesnt deserve to be dropped but if this Werling is as good as Clark says then it wont be long before we see him playing |
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Post by yanfan on Jan 25, 2009 13:18:23 GMT 1
if cadders runs rings around every defence bar a few in this league --which he does-- then he is invaluable.
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Post by boothys9iron on Jan 25, 2009 13:39:23 GMT 1
I just feel that a few players have coincidentally hit a good run of form since the transfer window opened!
These certain players have been turning out poor performances all season, it just seems that as soon as the window closes its back to business as usual and they can put there feet up for the rest of the season because they know there position is not in danger!!!
Now these new players have come in we might see a bit of urgency from a few players!
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jan 25, 2009 13:44:20 GMT 1
some people are really watching the wrong game. CAdders was superb in the first half. best player on the god dam pitch.
which resulted in Pearson sorting his team out at half time.
we got battered in the second. don't really think it was cadders fault. for me I'd like to see him in the hole behind dickinson!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 13:47:44 GMT 1
some people are really watching the wrong game. CAdders was superb in the first half. best player on the god dam pitch. which resulted in Pearson sorting his team out at half time. we got battered in the second. don't really think it was cadders fault. for me I'd like to see him in the hole behind dickinson!!!!!!! It depends what you class as having a good game? If you think pushing it past the defender and then getting a corner from the attempted cross means having a good game then fair enough. None of his play produced any chances from what i can remember |
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Post by thrice on Jan 25, 2009 13:48:22 GMT 1
It takes skill to pull a ball out of the air, control it and retain possession as Cads did on numerous occassions in additions to roasting their full back to such an extent that he got the half time hook. Our problem was that we didn't get the ball out to him enough in the second half.
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Post by Floyds on Jan 25, 2009 13:51:12 GMT 1
it wasn't cads fault - he had a poor second half but then so did alot (all?) of them
when we play 4-4-2 away from home with Cadders and Roberts as wingers we are (IMO) vulnerable when we don't have the ball. Especially with Collins in the side and Goodwin on a yellow card!
i dunno - one of those days i guess - hopefully we wont be too down hearted for a must win (arent they all?) on tuesday night...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 13:53:26 GMT 1
It takes skill to pull a ball out of the air, control it and retain possession as Cads did on numerous occassions in additions to roasting their full back to such an extent that he got the half time hook. Our problem was that we didn't get the ball out to him enough in the second half. The right back got taken off not the left back due to roberts 'roasting' him |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 25, 2009 13:58:34 GMT 1
some people are really watching the wrong game. CAdders was superb in the first half. best player on the god dam pitch. which resulted in Pearson sorting his team out at half time. we got battered in the second. don't really think it was cadders fault. for me I'd like to see him in the hole behind dickinson!!!!!!! can we have someone who can score in the hole (fnar fnar) cadders career goalscoring record surely suggests he plays on the wing or not at all |
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Post by thrice on Jan 25, 2009 14:00:25 GMT 1
It takes skill to pull a ball out of the air, control it and retain possession as Cads did on numerous occassions in additions to roasting their full back to such an extent that he got the half time hook. Our problem was that we didn't get the ball out to him enough in the second half. The right back got taken off not the left back due to roberts 'roasting' him Nah it was the left back. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 14:03:36 GMT 1
The right back got taken off not the left back due to roberts 'roasting' him Nah it was the left back. NOPE. The right back was the black lad from arsenal. He got taken off, Cleverly moved to right back, berner moved from left back to centre mid where cleverly was playing and joe mattock came on at left back and had cadders in his back pocket all half  |
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Post by thrice on Jan 25, 2009 14:06:12 GMT 1
Nah it was the left back. NOPE. The right back was the black lad from arsenal. He got taken off, Cleverly moved to right back, berner moved from left back to centre mid where cleverly was playing and joe mattock came on at left back and had cadders in his back pocket all half That was a bit too much for me to take in. As soon as they set up for the second half I could see that the left back had changed. I thought to myself that is because Cads has roasted that poor lad all of the first half . |
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Post by boothys9iron on Jan 25, 2009 15:10:03 GMT 1
It takes skill to pull a ball out of the air, control it and retain possession as Cads did on numerous occassions in additions to roasting their full back to such an extent that he got the half time hook. Our problem was that we didn't get the ball out to him enough in the second half. It also takes a lot of skill to catch the ball on the back of your neck then flick it up and balance it on your fore head....etc...etc..... But that does not win you games!! Putting in quality balls and sticking it in the back of the net does!!! And Im sorry but Cads just does not do that!! |
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Post by w415hy on Jan 25, 2009 19:39:37 GMT 1
Well i disagree boothys9iron.
Cads was a threat, yes he did lose the ball on occasions trying to beat the full back, but he must have been targetted as a threat to leicester if lee clark was telling Alex smithies to hit him on goalkicks etc.
I think winning corners etc is positive, as it means you can basically have an attacking set piece to score from, i counted half a decent crosses into the box from cads, one resulting in a header just wide from Gary Roberts, if that had gone in, i can categorically say that you would be praising cads for his cross.
To say that cads doesnt put quality balls into the box, i can count 2 straight off my head collins winner against leeds, when cads made a prat out of the leeds defence to cross the ball in, and for butlers winner against swindon last week.
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Post by SN0W on Jan 25, 2009 19:46:12 GMT 1
Cadders is doing brilliantly.... he will probably have an impact roll as the new players get bedded-in.
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Post by jonamitch on Jan 26, 2009 13:05:32 GMT 1
so you complain that he can't get a ball in the box (which he did on numerous occasions) and ONLY win corners and not proper chances, and yet our first goal came from a corner that was forced by cads?!
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Post by leedsterrier on Jan 26, 2009 13:12:26 GMT 1
Thought Cads was excellent first half - even the father in law who was seeing Town for the first time picked him out as our danger man. They put Mattock on to compensate for Berner getting done all the time.
A point that some Hereford fans have made is that while Lionel has pace to burn there sometimes isn't a final product (which I'm sure will come with time) whereas with Cads the majority of his crosses and attacks tend to pose dangers to the opposition.
IMO too early for us to say for definite that Ainsworth is going to walk into the team and have more of an impact than Cads.
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