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Post by ram on Jan 26, 2009 12:55:59 GMT 1
But has anyone noticed that it took us 3/4 games to move up the table and 1 to move back down again? The dream of the play-offs which was, before saturday,looking like a brisk walk up Castle Hill in the sunshine,has now become a stuggle up the North Face of the Eiger in a Blizzard!...Both "Strikers" scored against the top of the League,and the Defence let us down..Who gets dropped?Roberts will be out so one of the New boys will be in but what about The need for another Striker? I don,t like pouring cold water on what we,ve achieved since LC became manager,but Bloody Hell..Lose one game and its all wasted,the teams above keep winning and some have games and points in hand over us,short of signing 2 Big quality strikers it seems our push for promotion this season is over...I hope I,m wrong..But seldom are!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:01:28 GMT 1
End of the day the playoffs would be a nice extra. If LC brings in some good attacking threat we can spend the rest of the season watching enjoyable, exciting, attacking football. What Lee has shown us in two months is that he will get us up. It is no fault of his that we might not make it this year. However, if we do get a striker in, with Pilk/Ains, there is no reason why we should fear anyone in this league. Who's to say we won't go the rest of the season putting other teams to the sword? It's been threatening for a long time without a goalscorer.
If we don't get playoffs this year I reckon we'd be a good shout for champions next.
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Post by leedsterrier on Jan 26, 2009 13:05:39 GMT 1
To be honest I think Saturdays result was a minor blip. If you analyse it, we played well and for two thirds of the match dominated a team that is running away with this league. We had seriously incompetent officials in a ref that was a nailed on homer and a linesman who lost his flag everytime there was a decision that should have gone for us. Plus their third goal was dubious in the build up with a handball from Howard.
Not to take anything from Leicester, you don't get to the top with having a steely determination and a fair amount of luck but given the amount of games coming up and the rivals around us that we have to face - the play offs are still very realistic. If we get a result at Yeovil we'll be back on track.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 26, 2009 13:06:17 GMT 1
The season won't be decided by what we do at leicester. Ok we've dropped down the league a bit but Im actually more confident of getting in the play off now than I was before saturday. We went to the best side in the division and out-played them on their own patch for 2/3rds of the game. How many of our play-off rivals will do that?
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Post by runner76 on Jan 26, 2009 13:08:25 GMT 1
Less of the knee jerking!
A result at Leicester NEVER figured in my outlook for the rest of the season, and Play Offs.
We CAN do it, and I hope we do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:08:33 GMT 1
KEEP THE FAITH.
As long as it's mathematically possible to get to the play offs, it can be done. You can guarantee that one team at least will fall out of the play off slots, which means there is room for another. It can be done.
Having said that, watching town next year will be the same as what Leicester fans will have experienced this season, so even if we don't make it to to the Championship, we'll have a lot of victories to look forward to next year.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 26, 2009 13:09:50 GMT 1
I think Lee Clark neeeds to get back to drawing board with his away formation
We've played 442 in the last three away games, lost at Carlisle 3-0, drew at Northampton 1-1 and lost at Leicester 4-2.
Net result one point and conceded 8 - we're going nowhere with that away form
Prior to Carlisle we were playing 352 (away) under the GM's
Away results with 352
Beat L**ds 2-1 Beat Brighton 1-0 Beat Southend 1-0
Net result nine points and one goal conceded
In the air Howard was absolutely murdering Butler and winning EVERYTHING, we needed someone like Berrett as an extra body in the middle of a back three to contest the flick on's that Howard was winning. I reckon if we'd gone 352 we may have got something from Saturday
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Post by runner76 on Jan 26, 2009 13:10:26 GMT 1
KEEP THE FAITH. As long as it's mathematically possible to get to the play offs, it can be done. You can guarantee that one team at least will fall out of the play off slots, which means there is room for another. It can be done. Having said that, watching town next year will be the same as what Leicester fans will have experienced this season, so even if we don't make it to to the Championship, we'll have a lot of victories to look forward to next year. I'd like to think we would stroll next season if we are in this division, but I wouldn't be so sure. The only way I think we will stroll it is if we have a stonking second half of this season.........in which case we will be in the play offs anyway!!!!
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Post by dugnet on Jan 26, 2009 13:11:55 GMT 1
The season won't be decided by what we do at leicester. Ok we've dropped down the league a bit but Im actually more confident of getting in the play off now than I was before saturday. We went to the best side in the division and out-played them on their own patch for 2/3rds of the game. How many of our play-off rivals will do that? Spot on! 19 games, plenty of points to play for. A win at Yeovil would make things look very possible again... In an odd way Roberts being unavailable provides Pilkington a perfect opportunity to make his debut. I think we do all know that getting a striker would make a big difference to our chances...we wait and see what will happen.
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Post by stevvy on Jan 26, 2009 13:12:03 GMT 1
we can still get in the playoffs-we have to play alot of the teams above us,teams around us have to play each other,n while some tteams have games in hand,id rather have points than games in hand
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:13:06 GMT 1
I think Lee Clark neeeds to get back to drawing board with his away formation We've played 442 in the last three away games, lost at Carlisle 3-0, drew at Northampton 1-1 and lost at Leicester 4-2. Net result one point and conceded 8 - we're going nowhere with that away form Prior to Carlisle we were playing 352 (away) under the GM's Away results with 352 Beat L**ds 2-1 Beat Brighton 1-0 Beat Southend 1-0 Net result nine points and one goal conceded In the air Howard was absolutely murdering Butler and winning EVERYTHING, we needed someone like Berrett as an extra body in the middle of a back three to contest the flick on's that Howard was winning. I reckon if we'd gone 352 we may have got something from Saturday There's a big flaw in your argument Hudds, and that is that we played 3-5-2 at Carlisle. Which is the only game of the 3 you've mentioned in which we haven't played well. We were seconds away from winning at Northampton, and were well worth a point at Leicester. I stick with how we are playing now. I don't think changing formations week in week out is very pratical. You're also suggesting that we play without wingers, which would be a bit daft considering we now have Ainsworth, Pilkington, Roberts and Cads.
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 26, 2009 13:18:30 GMT 1
I think in terms of quality we are much better with Pilks and Ainsworth now, the tactics are their - the players just haven't been good enough of good enough for long enough of the game and Lee will sort that out
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 26, 2009 13:24:48 GMT 1
This is just the short-term view: win a game and we’re going to be champions; lose and it’s mid-table.
In reality the equation hasn’t changed since the fourteenth game; then we needed two points per game. We got two points per game in our last 13 games and we need two per game in the final 19.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:26:18 GMT 1
I hope I,m wrong..But seldom are! You're on the wrong board pal. You should either be on the forum for. 1. I'm right me, always am and always will be, so there... (also similar to the opinionated gits board) 2. Eternal pessimists... Not sure how old you are, but the latter stages of any football season in most divisions has changed dramatically since the introduction of 3 pts for a win and therefore discounting the 10th place team at this stage of the season is pure folly. Although you may think I should now belong on one of those forums... ;D Seriously though, get a grip, lots of games to play against these rival, so plenty of the typical "6-pointers" to come...
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Post by jonnycrutches on Jan 26, 2009 13:30:07 GMT 1
Saturday was a knock but let's face it, we aren't going to get a tougher test than Leicester away! We were worth a point from that game and maybe with the 3 new lads (and hopefully another striker to come) in and around the first 16 we would have got that point or more. So the only way is up from here!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:38:11 GMT 1
Done some quick sums. 83 points could just see us in the play offs. My prediction for rest of the season:- 13 wins, 5 draws, 1 defeat = 84 points. Excluding Leicester, we'd have this kind of form but for not beating Northampton, so as long as the new signings inprove the team, then it can be done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:39:47 GMT 1
Done some quick sums. 83 points could just see us in the play offs. My prediction for rest of the season:- 13 wins, 5 draws, 1 defeat = 84 points. Excluding Leicester, we'd have this kind of form but for not beating Northampton, so as long as the new signings inprove the team, then it can be done. 83 points would be more than enough for the play offs. 75 usually is, the points totals are unusually high for the top 6 so far, but I'm sure they will drop to around the normal level.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:42:40 GMT 1
Done some quick sums. 83 points could just see us in the play offs. My prediction for rest of the season:- 13 wins, 5 draws, 1 defeat = 84 points. Excluding Leicester, we'd have this kind of form but for not beating Northampton, so as long as the new signings inprove the team, then it can be done. 83 points would be more than enough for the play offs. 75 usually is, the points totals are unusually high for the top 6 so far, but I'm sure they will drop to around the normal level. Yeah I agree, I believe we are going up automatic anyway, and the play off places will be very closely matched on points, but I'm an optimistic fool ;D
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Post by morrisraspass on Jan 26, 2009 13:42:55 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT.
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Post by htafc4life on Jan 26, 2009 13:45:24 GMT 1
Went to Leicester hoping to get something but TBH expected a loss. Players put in a performance and a half though and I wasn't expecting to outplay Leicester for most of the game. But like someone else on this thread said, yesterday's result won't decide if we get into the play offs or not. Our promotion rivals will also lose to Leicester - Peterborough got destroyed by them!
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 26, 2009 13:47:08 GMT 1
83 points would be more than enough for the play offs. 75 usually is, the points totals are unusually high for the top 6 so far, but I'm sure they will drop to around the normal level. The problem with that is that there isn’t enough data to decide what the “normal” level is. If you look at the last ten years the number of points for sixth place has varied over quite a large range.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:49:47 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT. Correct, but look at the teams we have to play, we can take a lot of points off our play off rivals, and as the season progresses we will be playing a lot of mid table teams, who's season is more or less settled. Lots of opportunities to pick up 3 points
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 13:52:41 GMT 1
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Post by Diomedes on Jan 26, 2009 13:57:18 GMT 1
The season won't be decided by what we do at leicester. Ok we've dropped down the league a bit but Im actually more confident of getting in the play off now than I was before saturday. We went to the best side in the division and out-played them on their own patch for 2/3rds of the game. How many of our play-off rivals will do that? Reasoned thinking has no place on a thread like this one! Let him jerk his knee in peace man!
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 26, 2009 14:00:00 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT. Blackie’s gonna get ya.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 26, 2009 14:31:14 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT. Complete Hogwash - Blackpool were much further behind when they did it 2 years ago. You cannot say we will not make it as a fact. Much water to flow under that bridge yet. It's boring but one game at a time. After MKD (a) we have a relatively straight forward run-in. Other teams form will fluctuate and if we get that striker our chance is enhanced. I do agree that if we don't do it that there is no real problem but until the fat bird gets the gargle out lets have a bit of hope eh?
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Post by pozza on Jan 26, 2009 14:34:07 GMT 1
To be honest I think Saturdays result was a minor blip. If you analyse it, we played well and for two thirds of the match dominated a team that is running away with this league. Agreed If we had been playing anyone else in this league on Saturday we'd have probs won 3/4-0 playing like that. Leicester have only lost 2 games this season remember, and by far the best side in this league. The comments from the Leicester fans after the game says it all to me.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 26, 2009 14:40:09 GMT 1
Think about the first season we had back in this league, we nearly got in from nowhere by winning 10/11 games on the spin. Not denying its going to be difficult but I can defo see Stockport drifting out of the equation, and possibly Millwall too. I defo think either us or Leeds will get in, if not both.
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Post by morrisraspass on Jan 26, 2009 14:41:30 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT. Complete Hogwash - Blackpool were much further behind when they did it 2 years ago. You cannot say we will not make it as a fact. Much water to flow under that bridge yet. Read it again. The FACT doesn't apply to the first paragraph about not getting promotion, it applies to the last one - that 2009/10 will be glorious.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 26, 2009 14:44:22 GMT 1
We're not going up this year. Let's face it - there are too many teams above us with a game(s) in hand and who, at the moment, aren't slipping up. Of course we've got to try and keep plugging away in case any do drop off, and I'm sure we will. But I think we're going to miss out. It's no big deal mind - if we are still in League 1 in 2009/10 it'll be a glorious season. And that, folks, is FACT. Complete Hogwash - Blackpool were much further behind when they did it 2 years ago. You cannot say we will not make it as a fact. Much water to flow under that bridge yet. Read it again. The FACT doesn't apply to the first paragraph about not getting promotion, it applies to the last one - that 2009/10 will be glorious. Morris - I offer my humbe and sincere apologies...but it can be read both ways i.e. we won't get promoted and have a great season next tme round. Ho-hum...just don't write it off yet......
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