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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Feb 19, 2009 21:31:00 GMT 1
Just cos its your idea though slaps doesnt mean your Jon wins POTY ;D we will have to have Captainslapper Best out on-loan POY! ;D
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Post by mids on Feb 19, 2009 21:43:26 GMT 1
I don't understand how the club have been able to do this. Surely it's for the supporters club to run its awards. Have the supporters club officials agreed to hand the awards over? If so, why have the officials done so without asking the membership? As is evident from the posts LePoivre has posted on this subject, HTSA did not agree to hand over the awards, or the event. Therefore the membership did not need to be asked as there was nothing to ask. We have been in discussion with Sean for several months on holding an event in conjunction with the club, and we specifically stated that it mustn't price out the 'ordinary fan'. The idea was to have the awards night in a marquee on the pitch which could attract a large number of people and become a grand annual event. Unfortunately, due to cost and health & safety this wasn't viable. On Monday I received an email from Sean asking HTSA to organise the voting for ther Edith Hargreaves Memorial POTY Award. This suggested to me that the club saw the connection between the (previous) Supporters Club and that particular award. Today's announcement has come completely out of the blue and we had not been informed of any of the details (and especially the need for corporate sponsorship of the award) despite the previous ongoing negotiations.
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Post by shelbourne on Feb 19, 2009 21:45:00 GMT 1
Well get on their case it stinks
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 19, 2009 21:45:39 GMT 1
;D If datm had some sort of night Id be up for it and would contribute towards an award.... think it would be an excellent evening !!
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 19, 2009 22:01:30 GMT 1
Just cos its your idea though slaps doesnt mean your Jon wins POTY ;D we will have to have Captainslapper Best out on-loan POY! ;D ;D Best ginger haired player of the season. If he doesn't get POTS then Nat Clarke has to get it or Im taking back my idea!!
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Post by dvdqueen01 on Feb 19, 2009 22:09:54 GMT 1
I know this is my first post but the Hargreaves trophy is named after my Nan who sadly passed away last year. I can confirm that the club have not spoken us and that we have had our name on the trophy since 1975! 34 years of the name on the trophy and no one have bothered contacting us. I will be contacting the club first thing Friday and asking what the fook is going on. This tarnishes the name of the trophy and all the player of the year dance is about. I wont even be able to afford to go and i presented the bloody thing last year!!!
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Post by stevvy on Feb 19, 2009 22:10:40 GMT 1
£50+ is extortionate-yes we saved on ST prices but i doubt too many people can actually afford to splash out £50+ on an end of season awards do for a couple of hours. Ridiculous price,ridiculous idea to offer corporate sponsorship for the memorial trophy in particular, bad idea all round in my eyes
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 22:20:18 GMT 1
C'mon HTSA time to flex your / our collective muscle.
Rare occasions like this are the reason people signed up, because we know a united voice carries much further than a single one...
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Post by hudds4eva on Feb 19, 2009 22:20:26 GMT 1
As Edith Hargreaves grand daughter who presented the trophy last season im discusted with the club and plan to phone them tommorow and find out what the hell is going on. The family havnt been made aware of any of this.
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Post by LePoivre on Feb 19, 2009 22:21:15 GMT 1
I don't understand how the club have been able to do this. Surely it's for the supporters club to run its awards. Have the supporters club officials agreed to hand the awards over? If so, why have the officials done so without asking the membership? Definitely NOT
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 19, 2009 22:23:46 GMT 1
It should be 30 quid maximum !!!!
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Post by bro600 on Feb 19, 2009 22:25:16 GMT 1
Can anyone clarify the rumour that it's being held up at Cedar Court instead of The Galpharm? Definitely a phony rumour. The Club website states that the venue is the stadium banqueting suite. I have already made my views known to other members of the HTSA committee and will re-state them on here. This is totally out of order and quite shameful and shameless. What would poor Edith make of it? Has the family been consulted? I very mych doubt it. And that's not the only one either. Another Memorial Trophy is up for grabs. Has there been any consultation on that one either? Come on, Sean, the sooner this is reconsidered the better. As far as i know the club haven't been asked to reconsider and are probably unaware of the strength of feeling on this particular matter. Wouldn't it be fairer to ask for reconsideration through the proper channels before condemning the actions?
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Post by dvdqueen01 on Feb 19, 2009 22:28:23 GMT 1
Having spoken to my father (the son of Edith) He will be speaking to the club friday and asking for the trophy back. The whole family is in agreement that this is not what the trophy is for, it was never ever ever given for a money making tool! Edith would be so upset to know this is going on (with this news coming a week away from the 1st anniversary of her passing away) When we do get the trophy back we will be very happy to donate it to the HTSA so they can arrange their own ceremony.
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Post by kleverboy on Feb 19, 2009 22:29:56 GMT 1
I know this is my first post but the Hargreaves trophy is named after my Nan who sadly passed away last year. I can confirm that the club have not spoken us and that we have had our name on the trophy since 1975! 34 years of the name on the trophy and no one have bothered contacting us. I will be contacting the club first thing Friday and asking what the fook is going on. This tarnishes the name of the trophy and all the player of the year dance is about. I wont even be able to afford to go and i presented the bloody thing last year!!! Your Nan was a star... this is very poor work on the club's part. I'm sure things will be resolved.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 19, 2009 22:31:37 GMT 1
You have my moral support mate.... disgraceful by the club, get onto Deano....it will get sorted imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 22:31:55 GMT 1
It should be 30 quid maximum !!!! I'm very tempted to say it should be 30bob max! In all seriousness, what's wrong with pie 'n' peas, or a sop-supper? Ten quid contribution for food should still result in a great day out. Is there anything left to sell that hasn't been "sponsored"?
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Post by mirfieldchris on Feb 19, 2009 22:31:59 GMT 1
DATM awards, Reece, you present the trophies. Tog Terrier can be MC.
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Post by kleverboy on Feb 19, 2009 22:38:35 GMT 1
DATM awards, Reece, you present the trophies. Tog Terrier can be MC. And the winner for Best Kitchen Fitter is........... !
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Post by terrier19 on Feb 19, 2009 22:39:36 GMT 1
I don't understand how the club have been able to do this. Surely it's for the supporters club to run its awards. Have the supporters club officials agreed to hand the awards over? If so, why have the officials done so without asking the membership? As is evident from the posts LePoivre has posted on this subject, HTSA did not agree to hand over the awards, or the event. Therefore the membership did not need to be asked as there was nothing to ask. We have been in discussion with Sean for several months on holding an event in conjunction with the club, and we specifically stated that it mustn't price out the 'ordinary fan'. The idea was to have the awards night in a marquee on the pitch which could attract a large number of people and become a grand annual event. Unfortunately, due to cost and health & safety this wasn't viable. On Monday I received an email from Sean asking HTSA to organise the voting for ther Edith Hargreaves Memorial POTY Award. This suggested to me that the club saw the connection between the (previous) Supporters Club and that particular award.Today's announcement has come completely out of the blue and we had not been informed of any of the details (and especially the need for corporate sponsorship of the award) despite the previous ongoing negotiations. If we all refuse to vote or if the HTSA dont organise the vote then they cant run this award. I would much prefer a DATM end of season do, we could organise a raffle of something and donate the money to a charity which would get some more publicity
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Post by ding1981 on Feb 19, 2009 22:40:48 GMT 1
shouldn't that be fictional kitchen fitter?
but anyway, in all seriousness if someone was to set up a DATM evening - £10 - £20 a head, pie n peas etc etc I would be definitely up for it and would help organise it. What the club have done is disgusting.
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Post by mids on Feb 19, 2009 22:42:36 GMT 1
C'mon HTSA time to flex your / our collective muscle. Rare occasions like this are the reason people signed up, because we know a united voice carries much further than a single one... A email has been sent to the club expressing HTSA's disgust at how this has been handled and pointing out that the proposed corporate sponsorship of the Edith Hargreaves Award is contemptable.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 19, 2009 22:43:49 GMT 1
I should bloody well think so !!!!!!!!
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Post by bigbadbaz on Feb 19, 2009 22:50:32 GMT 1
I think when sean reads all this on fri he will know they have f***** up
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Feb 19, 2009 23:20:32 GMT 1
C'mon HTSA time to flex your / our collective muscle. Rare occasions like this are the reason people signed up, because we know a united voice carries much further than a single one... A email has been sent to the club expressing HTSA's disgust at how this has been handled and pointing out that the proposed corporate sponsorship of the Edith Hargreaves Award is contemptable. I agree It is disgusting but lets give the club the oppurtunity to put things right - Marcus/HTSA has given them that oppurtunity in making the feelings known on the matter - I look forward to a response from the club
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Post by mids on Feb 19, 2009 23:38:51 GMT 1
It's an emotional topic and I'm sure all sides could have said and done some things differently.
Hopefully some of the 'glitches' can be ironed out and a successful Awards Event can be run.
There is also now the scope to see if something can be done for the 'ordinary fan' who feels they cannot afford £57.50 to attend the Awards Event.
We all want the club to be successful and to make money and be viable. It's sometimes a rocky path but it needs everyone to stick with it and support in whatever way each individul can.
HTFC has come a long way under Dean and Sean, and I'm sure it will continue to do improve further....hopefully in tandem with HTSA and all Town supporters.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 19, 2009 23:40:59 GMT 1
This years ST cost 100 quid and they want 60 just to go for a few hours night do ??
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Post by sowerbyterrier2 on Feb 19, 2009 23:44:29 GMT 1
I agree with the fundametal premise of holding a DATM player of the year type awards do. I go to games with prestonterrier, who has offered help, and I will be happy to help out where i can.
But does anyone else see the irony in a supporters group getting together to hold an awards ceremony, in protest agains the club taking over a supporters association awards ceremony. Are we just going around in circles? Surely the solution should be to crank up some serious pressure on the club and sean jarvis. I'm pretty sure if mr j knew the extent of the opposition to this, then he would realise the own goal.
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Post by Polish Hippy on Feb 20, 2009 2:28:43 GMT 1
I've just had to have several triple brandies to get over the shock of so many people agreeing with me on DATM. Slaps has come up with corker of an idea for a DATM do. Would the Gas Club be big enough?
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Post by townatheart on Feb 20, 2009 8:23:27 GMT 1
It's an emotional topic and I'm sure all sides could have said and done some things differently. Hopefully some of the 'glitches' can be ironed out and a successful Awards Event can be run. There is also now the scope to see if something can be done for the 'ordinary fan' who feels they cannot afford £57.50 to attend the Awards Event. We all want the club to be successful and to make money and be viable. It's sometimes a rocky path but it needs everyone to stick with it and support in whatever way each individul can. HTFC has come a long way under Dean and Sean, and I'm sure it will continue to do improve further....hopefully in tandem with HTSA and all Town supporters. Marcus, Would it be possible for the Club to continue with their Corporate level plans, accepting in good faith Sean's line of thinking from a commercial standpoint, HOWEVER, the name of the Hargreaves Trophy should not be used at this event, but resevered for the Supporters Association to award. The Club could get their Sponsor to name their Player of the Year (IE "THE B&Q" Player of the Year) and HTSA could arrange to hold (for ALL supporters, not just HTSA members) their own down home type barbeque do at a much lower working mans rate type of a function and award the Hargreaves Trophy from the Supporters. Perhaps just a slight compromise from both angles will get the job done. This is a communication issue, for I do not think there is much doubt in anyone's mind that Dean and Sean's hearts are in the right place. Edit- Just read thru Sean's thread, and the comments from the Hargreaves family are very important IMO. Perhaps both yourself speaking for HTSA and Sean for the Club could have a conversation with them to help find a way forward. I personally do not want to see a us and them scenario develop, and yet I think there may be some mileage in holding the two separate end of season functions. HTSA could even take the lead and look to use the supporters level event to raise some additional funds which would go towards supporting a project for the Club. But first, I think all involved should look to get some input from the family so that their wishes are at least given at chance to be included.
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 20, 2009 9:05:02 GMT 1
Can anyone clarify the rumour that it's being held up at Cedar Court instead of The Galpharm? Definitely a phony rumour. The Club website states that the venue is the stadium banqueting suite. I have already made my views known to other members of the HTSA committee and will re-state them on here. This is totally out of order and quite shameful and shameless. What would poor Edith make of it? Has the family been consulted? I very mych doubt it. And that's not the only one either. Another Memorial Trophy is up for grabs. Has there been any consultation on that one either? Come on, Sean, the sooner this is reconsidered the better. Is the other trophy you refer to the Derek Holmes memorial trophy, Bob? If this is the case Derek, like Edith, was a lifelong Town fan whose life was tragically ended in a car crash. He was a very good friend of mine and a follower of Town all over the country during the late seventies/early eighties on the Supporters Club coaches. Blessed with a superb personality,he was a joy to have known. Many of our group that went together can still be seen (and heard) at the Galpharm. Nick, Wakey Bob, Wakey Pete, Kirky (starter of the "gooooooo-onnnnnnnn" shout that was in evidence at the very start of the games at Leeds Road) on the same coaches were Henry (now also gone, Ray, Al and many more. I remember at the POTY do at the end of the 4th div championship winning season dancing to the Gibson Brothers (pissed) in a circle with many of the above named and joining in (also pissed) were Steve Kindon, Brian Stanton and the two Peters - Hart and Fletcher. Now that was a REAL POTY do.
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