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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 20, 2009 15:49:36 GMT 1
you had absolutely no reason to have an overnight stay-its 20mins down the motorway,not 2 hours-if our lot can cope without an overnight stay for a 12.15 kickoff your lot can cope without 1 for a 12pm kickoff-the match preparation won't have been affected,all it meant was they could spend more time in bed,nothing more-bates and your club are idiots for even having the audacity to claim the expenses,and those who think you're right to are just as stupid in my eyes Its a FL regulation which doesnt reference travelling distances, and states categorically that a 12pm kick off permits such a claim. If Hudders were entitled to make a claim then I'm sure you'd go for it,and lambast LU if they didnt cough up-probably meriting 4 pages on here Mind you consistency flies right out of the window when the boots on the other foot,so as you were with the hypocrisy and double standards Edit for stevvy:thats what my granny used to say on her birthday Football leagur regulations state that you can claim expenses when a 12 o'clock kick off necessates an overnight stay. It is clear to all that an overnight stay was not neccesary. Our club made it public to show how petty and pathetic leeds utd and ken bates are.
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Post by whistlestop on Feb 20, 2009 15:49:37 GMT 1
HUDDERSFIELD TOWN - THE FACTS
Further to a statement on Huddersfield Town's website regarding last weekend's game and the claim that we have asked for "Huddersfield's help to pay (our) bills" Leeds United have issued the following statement...
The regulations of the Football League provide for Leeds United to make a claim against Huddersfield Town for travelling expenses as a result of the amended kick-off time (12 noon). If Huddersfield do not feel that the early kick-off time necessitates an overnight stay - it is for the travelling club to decide if that is how it wishes to prepare - they can appeal to the Football League.
Huddersfield have appealed and the Football League will decide, but it would be presumptuous for them (Huddersfield) to claim that the Football League are "wholly supportive" of Huddersfield when they are yet to make a decision. In the event that the Football League agree with Huddersfield we will abide by their decision and will draw our own conclusions as to why.
The process will be dealt with by the Football League and we will pass no further comment on the matter so as not to prejudice the outcome until a decision is made.
However, it is worth noting that we believe the public release of this dispute by Huddersfield (without any notification to ourselves in advance) is designed to gain favour among their supporters - but we now feel it is important that the public are made aware of the following...
1. Huddersfield Town paid Leeds United the sum of £1000 as compensation following the game at Elland Road in November 2008 for using LUTV's footage of the game without prior permission and, against Football League regulations, illegally copying it for sale to their fans. Leeds United chose to deal with the matter privately between the clubs, not involve the Football League, and not make the matter public.
2. We have received a number of complaints from our own fans about the conduct of the PA announcer at Huddersfield last weekend, but we chose not to take this into the public domain (until now) because even though we had legitimate concerns over his conduct, we didn't want it to be interpreted as sour grapes following our 1-0 defeat.
3. Huddersfield Town chose not to grant admission to LUTV (one camera) to film the match last weekend unless we paid £5000. Huddersfield are the only club in the Football League to have made this demand - this is hardly consistent with the spirit of the game - and we were informed of their demand less than 24 hours before the kick-off. Again, we said nothing publicly and alternative arrangements were made.
For the record, our claim for travelling expenses is £1100.
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Post by ksne on Feb 20, 2009 15:50:52 GMT 1
If we have the same situation next season, we should offer them those rooms in the FM stand overlooking the pitch. We'll at least have done our bit to accommodate the poor sods. I could offer to serve up breakfast
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Post by stevvy on Feb 20, 2009 15:51:51 GMT 1
haha,their fans complained about our announcer,and they think they have legitimate concerns over his conduct?!!!he did nothing wrong!
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Post by ksne on Feb 20, 2009 15:53:51 GMT 1
He worked them very well.
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Post by plumbs on Feb 20, 2009 15:54:05 GMT 1
Its a FL regulation which doesnt reference travelling distances, and states categorically that a 12pm kick off permits such a claim. You're right, the regulation doesn't mention distances. But here is what it does say: 24.6
Should a kick-off at 12.00 noon or earlier necessitate the Away Club incurring overnight hotel expenses, the Away Club shall be entitled to claim the hotel expenses incurred (at the rate and as determined by the Executive from time to time, per person per night for a party not exceeding twenty in number) against the gross gate, any dispute to be determined by the Executive.Does a 15-mile trip 'necessitate' an overnight stay, even with the early kick-off? No. That rule was put there for teams who might have to travel from the north to the south for televised games. It's just Bates deciding to try it on, and he will be laughed away by the Football League for what is basically an attempt at defrauding Town. Defrauding is a big word to use on Ken Bates,but we'll leave that aside for a moment. The '15 mile' trip isnt actually that if you consider that players dont live near to ER,or indeed your own players to GS.I wonder if that excellent guy from Everton travelled over from Merseyside on the morning of the match? If the regulation is an ass then it needs changing but I'd say that LU incurred an unfair extra cost in having to stay overnight, so they've chosen to claim.I suspect theres an element of disappointment in the HU boardroom after they failed to do the same,and missed out earlier in the season# by agreeing to a 12. 15 ko #That was another good win for the Terriers,although its a shame most of you missed it
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Post by whistlestop on Feb 20, 2009 15:55:09 GMT 1
I think the police call it.. 'incitement'..?
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 20, 2009 15:56:07 GMT 1
Wasn't it a 12.15 kick-off ?
Don't know about 'hate Leeds', I'm actually more embarressed for you. How can a club go in a few short ( HILLARIOUS) years from competing in the CL semi-finals to getting humiliated in a 3rd division game at Hereford and trying to welsh on a couple of grand hotel bill for a game 20 minutes away?
I would say people like Revie, Bremner and Cussins would be turning in their graves, but as everyone knows, they weren't exactly big on integrity and honour either!
What a piss poor club theyve become! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 20, 2009 15:56:36 GMT 1
There is no way that you are going to convince me that a claim for hotel expences before a game 20 mins down the road from your own ground is justified.
It's up to your club what information you release but our club is a little bit more open and actually communicates to and works with the fans. If we are disputing this claim to the FL, which we are, i would want to know about it.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 20, 2009 15:56:58 GMT 1
half our bloody team live in Liverpool muppet!
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 20, 2009 15:57:09 GMT 1
HUDDERSFIELD TOWN - THE FACTS
In the event that the Football League agree with Huddersfield we will abide by their decision and will draw our own conclusions as to why. So they are saying that when the FL find in Towns favor, l**ds will believe it's a conspiracy against them?
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Post by gaz7837 on Feb 20, 2009 15:57:29 GMT 1
haha,their fans complained about our announcer,and they think they have legitimate concerns over his conduct?!!!he did nothing wrong! Wern't they the ones chanting "Your a fat bald bastard" or something along those lines??? They make me laugh!!! Maybe we should lodge a complaint against them for Teasing our announcer......... yet again we arn't a bunch of petty losers.
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Post by Rob in t'Hood on Feb 20, 2009 16:00:08 GMT 1
is it just me ..... why the hell do we have Yids fans on this board ALL the time - I don't go on their board, I've tried typing "we are the champions champions of elland" into google, but it doesn't bring it up ;D
If you're going to start over every penny - how many people were out of pocket for being held back at Bellend Road because the Knuckle Draggers wouldn't leave from outside, anyone miss any appointments or just the inconvenience of having to stop there for another 45 minutes (for the record - we let you out straight away)
What about the broken seats - have HTAFC gone public over that
Just go away and GET OVER IT - God knows what it would be like if they got to the play offs and the 6,000,000,000,000 armchair fans get their old BBC computers out!
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Post by plumbs on Feb 20, 2009 16:00:17 GMT 1
He worked them very well. He did his bit in festering bad feeling on the day,which resulted in both Leeds and Town fans being hurt after they left the ground. If you wish to see things taken to such a degree where you/us end up like us/Millwall then carry on as you are.It was like this with ManU some years ago and it spun out of control-in the main caused by own fans singing about the air disaster etc. Lifes too short guys
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 20, 2009 16:00:17 GMT 1
You're right, the regulation doesn't mention distances. But here is what it does say: 24.6
Should a kick-off at 12.00 noon or earlier necessitate the Away Club incurring overnight hotel expenses, the Away Club shall be entitled to claim the hotel expenses incurred (at the rate and as determined by the Executive from time to time, per person per night for a party not exceeding twenty in number) against the gross gate, any dispute to be determined by the Executive.Does a 15-mile trip 'necessitate' an overnight stay, even with the early kick-off? No. That rule was put there for teams who might have to travel from the north to the south for televised games. It's just Bates deciding to try it on, and he will be laughed away by the Football League for what is basically an attempt at defrauding Town. Defrauding is a big word to use on Ken Bates,but we'll leave that aside for a moment. The '15 mile' trip isnt actually that if you consider that players dont live near to ER,or indeed your own players to GS.I wonder if that excellent guy from Everton travelled over from Merseyside on the morning of the match? If the regulation is an ass then it needs changing but I'd say that LU incurred an unfair extra cost in having to stay overnight, so they've chosen to claim.I suspect theres an element of disappointment in the HU boardroom after they failed to do the same,and missed out earlier in the season# by agreeing to a 12. 15 ko #That was another good win for the Terriers,although its a shame most of you missed it Im pretty certain that Roberts, Craney and Jevons all live in merseyside and travel over every day. (although i could be wrong) The galpharm is 20 mins from Elland Road. Say for example the players arrive at elland road to prepare for a home match 2 hours before kick off, that means they would have had to go there for 9.40 to get to the galpharm for 10. Quite a reasonable time frame.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 20, 2009 16:00:24 GMT 1
Wasn't it a 12.15 kick-off ? Don't know about 'hate Leeds', I'm actually more embarrassed for you. How can a club go in a few short ( HILARIOUS) years from competing in the CL semi-finals to getting humiliated in a 3rd division game at Hereford and trying to welsh on a couple of grand hotel bill for a game 20 minutes away? I would say people like Revie, Bremner and Cussins would be turning in their graves, but as everyone knows, they weren't exactly big on integrity and Honor either! What a piss poor club thieve become! ;D ;D ;D Become? They have been kicked out of the league once for making illegal payments.
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Post by gaz7837 on Feb 20, 2009 16:01:53 GMT 1
HUDDERSFIELD TOWN - THE FACTS
In the event that the Football League agree with Huddersfield we will abide by their decision and will draw our own conclusions as to why. So they are saying that when the FL find in Towns favor, l**ds will believe it's a conspiracy against them? Can't wait for the Response on WACCOE, "It's Leeds against the World Again" "The whol Football League is jelous of Leeds, Thats why they are against us" HAHAHAHA, I love it.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Feb 20, 2009 16:02:52 GMT 1
HUDDERSFIELD TOWN - THE FACTS
Further to a statement on Huddersfield Town's website regarding last weekend's game and the claim that we have asked for "Huddersfield's help to pay (our) bills" Leeds United have issued the following statement... The regulations of the Football League provide for Leeds United to make a claim against Huddersfield Town for travelling expenses as a result of the amended kick-off time (12 noon). If Huddersfield do not feel that the early kick-off time necessitates an overnight stay - it is for the travelling club to decide if that is how it wishes to prepare - they can appeal to the Football League. Huddersfield have appealed and the Football League will decide, but it would be presumptuous for them (Huddersfield) to claim that the Football League are "wholly supportive" of Huddersfield when they are yet to make a decision. In the event that the Football League agree with Huddersfield we will abide by their decision and will draw our own conclusions as to why. The process will be dealt with by the Football League and we will pass no further comment on the matter so as not to prejudice the outcome until a decision is made. However, it is worth noting that we believe the public release of this dispute by Huddersfield (without any notification to ourselves in advance) is designed to gain favour among their supporters - but we now feel it is important that the public are made aware of the following... 1. Huddersfield Town paid Leeds United the sum of £1000 as compensation following the game at Elland Road in November 2008 for using LUTV's footage of the game without prior permission and, against Football League regulations, illegally copying it for sale to their fans. Leeds United chose to deal with the matter privately between the clubs, not involve the Football League, and not make the matter public. 2. We have received a number of complaints from our own fans about the conduct of the PA announcer at Huddersfield last weekend, but we chose not to take this into the public domain (until now) because even though we had legitimate concerns over his conduct, we didn't want it to be interpreted as sour grapes following our 1-0 defeat. 3. Huddersfield Town chose not to grant admission to LUTV (one camera) to film the match last weekend unless we paid £5000. Huddersfield are the only club in the Football League to have made this demand - this is hardly consistent with the spirit of the game - and we were informed of their demand less than 24 hours before the kick-off. Again, we said nothing publicly and alternative arrangements were made. For the record, our claim for travelling expenses is £1100. just gets even more funny/ridiculous. complaints about PA announcer etc. Maybe the lack of LUTV camera(s) was in direct response to lack of tickets given to our supporters in last 2 fixtures at bellend rd? and, before you give the old,'you didnt sell out' retort, alot wont give your corrupt chairman/club the money. hard to justify giving us 1700 last season when bradford got 5000 for game this season. the crowd trouble thing certainly doesnt wash, purely that you know more of your'fans' turn up for the town game. dont argue, you know i'm right. In a way i hope you get the money as some kind of 'moral victory' for you sad deluded lot, but, if you read WACCOE, alot of your 'fans' are very very embarrassed that your chairman feels the need to do this. upset by a PA announcer...... hilarious!! ;D ;D
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Feb 20, 2009 16:04:14 GMT 1
Defrauding is a big word to use on Ken Bates,but we'll leave that aside for a moment. The '15 mile' trip isnt actually that if you consider that players dont live near to ER,or indeed your own players to GS.I wonder if that excellent guy from Everton travelled over from Merseyside on the morning of the match? If the regulation is an ass then it needs changing but I'd say that LU incurred an unfair extra cost in having to stay overnight, so they've chosen to claim.I suspect theres an element of disappointment in the HU boardroom after they failed to do the same,and missed out earlier in the season# by agreeing to a 12. 15 ko #That was another good win for the Terriers,although its a shame most of you missed it Im pretty certain that Roberts, Craney and Jevons all live in merseyside and travel over every day. (although i could be wrong) The galpharm is 20 mins from Elland Road. Say for example the players arrive at elland road to prepare for a home match 2 hours before kick off, that means they would have had to go there for 9.40 to get to the galpharm for 10. Quite a reasonable time frame. Off the point, but I think Roberts lives up Marsh.
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Post by cowan3god on Feb 20, 2009 16:05:28 GMT 1
The Plumber, Capt Birdseye is doing an excellent job of destroying what precious little L***S have left? They have no respect from any other football clubs and you wonder why?, Claiming the hotel bill only brings attention towards your overpaid underperforming players and club?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 20, 2009 16:05:39 GMT 1
If we have the same situation next season, we should offer them those rooms in the FM stand overlooking the pitch. We'll at least have done our bit to accommodate the poor sods. Have a +ve from me. By God you need it ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2009 16:06:41 GMT 1
Im pretty certain that Roberts, Craney and Jevons all live in merseyside and travel over every day. (although i could be wrong) The galpharm is 20 mins from Elland Road. Say for example the players arrive at elland road to prepare for a home match 2 hours before kick off, that means they would have had to go there for 9.40 to get to the galpharm for 10. Quite a reasonable time frame. Off the point, but I think Roberts lives up Marsh. Nope craney, roberts, jevo and lukas all travel from liverpool everyday
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Post by stevvy on Feb 20, 2009 16:06:42 GMT 1
He did his bit in festering bad feeling on the day,which resulted in both Leeds and Town fans being hurt after they left the ground. If you wish to see things taken to such a degree where you/us end up like us/Millwall then carry on as you are.It was like this with ManU some years ago and it spun out of control-in the main caused by own fans singing about the air disaster etc. Lifes too short guys thats utter trash,he didnt fester bad feeling which resulted in fans being hurt,he made a couple of jokey comments and nothing more,which most certainly wont have resulted in fans being injured
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Post by malvernterrier on Feb 20, 2009 16:14:38 GMT 1
He worked them very well. He did his bit in festering bad feeling on the day,which resulted in both Leeds and Town fans being hurt after they left the ground. If you wish to see things taken to such a degree where you/us end up like us/Millwall then carry on as you are.It was like this with ManU some years ago and it spun out of control-in the main caused by own fans singing about the air disaster etc. Lifes too short guys What a plank you realy are!!!!! You mention us in the same breath as Millwall, after that bit of disgusting insight into your fans on C5 last night!!!!!!! It dosnt take a man on a mic to incite your band of moronic monkeys pal.....watch the programme again Popeye!!!! Even ugly women say they would join in if their kids wernt with them.......your club is steeped in coruption and hatred......jog on now love.
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Feb 20, 2009 16:14:49 GMT 1
boo hoo boo hoo this just makes me laugh how pathetic the yids really are how much of of a lie in do the cun&s want, they will be loads of fans on here who will have done a 100 mile trip to get to the game on saturday and i bet they dint stay in a hotel just set off earlier either leeds had moved or huddersfield have because the last time i checked we were about 30 mins apart
batesy must be skint and hes making the le%ds fans look like ediots(like they dint need any help to anyway) what a set of tw£ts
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Post by plumbs on Feb 20, 2009 16:15:26 GMT 1
The Plumber, Capt Birdseye is doing an excellent job of destroying what precious little L***S have left? They have no respect from any other football clubs and you wonder why?, Claiming the hotel bill only brings attention towards your overpaid underperforming players and club? Some good but debateable points there(could get me a huge cricket score on waccoe but never mind)and you're dead right about the overpaid underperforming players. The 'attention' was started by HU taking a shot on their official site and to which LU have responded-which doesnt do anyone any favours but that wont cut any ice on here.Its a shame that its come to this but there you go. I dont suppose anyone is willing to justify the exclusion of a TV camera at the GS,or excuse the pathetic vandalising of Bremners statue last season? No-thought not but then again if it'd been Town on the receiving end then we'd be able to read about it on your 'fishul site
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Post by ksne on Feb 20, 2009 16:17:15 GMT 1
FGS go get a life.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 20, 2009 16:18:58 GMT 1
He did his bit in festering bad feeling on the day,which resulted in both Leeds and Town fans being hurt after they left the ground. If you wish to see things taken to such a degree where you/us end up like us/Millwall then carry on as you are.It was like this with ManU some years ago and it spun out of control-in the main caused by own fans singing about the air disaster etc. Lifes too short guys thats utter trash,he didnt fester bad feeling which resulted in fans being hurt,he made a couple of jokey comments and nothing more,which most certainly wont have resulted in fans being injured I don't think he said anything bad at all did he? The funniest thing was when the kid said he came from l**ds and they cheered, only for him to then say he supported Town They're just a city full of Town fans ;D
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 20, 2009 16:21:44 GMT 1
To a normal fan of basic intelligence it was lighthearted banter at worst. To your average humourless Leeds knuckledragger, it was blatent provocation, and an excuse for some afters outside, eh Plumber? What a prat you are! ;D
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Post by stevvy on Feb 20, 2009 16:22:17 GMT 1
the nearest he got to saying anything bad or that might cause trouble was saying it was the only half time score that mattered (which is true,as it was the only game at half time in the country at that point,so hardly a lie) and that they'd been quiet until they shouted "you dont know what you're doing" to the couple who'd got engaged on the pitch and started giving him abuse...........so quite how that can be interpreted as festering bad feeling and causing trouble and fans to be injured is beyond me!
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