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Post by scottieterrier on Feb 25, 2009 19:46:17 GMT 1
Quote in Examiner "LEE Clarke (his spelling says it all) has gone down the same route as Stan Ternent and Andy Ritchie by undoing a Gerry Murphy team capable of getting into the play-offs and possibly promotion. Dean Hoyle is an expert in cards and I fear that it will not be long before he manufactures a red one for Lee Clarke (?), as Town are at present only playing for 45 minutes and have once again become erratic and hit-and-miss. I hope that I am wrong but it looks like another season has been wasted, which may account for Gerry Murphy's shock departure." sent in by Robert Zubally from Longwood.
My quote "Stopped talking S**T and support the team you idiot."
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Post by Polish Hippy on Feb 25, 2009 19:51:43 GMT 1
Why is it that when someone offers an opinion they're told to shut up and support the team? How many different opinions are there amongst 12,500 regulars supporters and 25,000 armchair ones? Should they all shut up and support the team too? Now there's a novelty - telepathic supporters. I wonder if they could hear a pin drop?
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Post by boothylegend on Feb 25, 2009 19:52:56 GMT 1
If ClarkE is so bad then why's he "fearing" that he'll be "shown a red card"?
I'm not one for having a go at people for being critical, I get annoyed by the people moaning about moaners on here. But to say that Clark is, or should be, in any danger is just ridiculous. I doubt we'd be selling out away games if he was.
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Post by digwon on Feb 25, 2009 19:54:56 GMT 1
i agree with some points like erratic and playing for 45 minutes,,but i dont think were going down the stan ternant route,and Deano wont be showing the red card,thats my opinion :-)
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Post by scottieterrier on Feb 25, 2009 19:59:10 GMT 1
It's obvious that Clarke is not going down the same route as Ternent and Ritchie, we are playing better football, alot better atmosphere and players seem alot more confident, Clark is going to Patrons meetings and talking to the fans and by the way the next meeting as far as I know we will be meeting the new players. The backroom staff have more experience and greater knowledge but as is usually said it takes time not just part of a season.
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Post by ksne on Feb 25, 2009 20:02:34 GMT 1
Quote in Examiner "LEE Clarke (his spelling says it all) has gone down the same route as Stan Ternent and Andy Ritchie by undoing a Gerry Murphy team capable of getting into the play-offs and possibly promotion. Dean Hoyle is an expert in cards and I fear that it will not be long before he manufactures a red one for Lee Clarke (?), as Town are at present only playing for 45 minutes and have once again become erratic and hit-and-miss. I hope that I am wrong but it looks like another season has been wasted, which may account for Gerry Murphy's shock departure." sent in by Robert Zubally from Longwood. My quote "Stopped talking S**T and support the team you idiot." FGS it his opinion.It is not mine.Why is it that anyone who happens to have an opinion, which being their own, may be different to others` or your`s gets shot down on here.  |
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Post by shawsie on Feb 25, 2009 20:05:04 GMT 1
One word - numpty!!!!
Cos we really played every week for 90mins under gerry didnt we??!!
I will get undoubted pelters for this, but am delighted the man has now gone - yes he produced some half decent football players but nothing more than that and whilst he deserves massive credit for some of his work, i do think the "sir gerry" tag is way overboard!
It is going to take time for clark to sort matters out but am confident his new permanent signings are ALL better than what we had and the way things are going with other sides choking results if we can manage 9 wins and 2 draws out of last 14 games we still have a chance of the play offs this year which from where we were in nov is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
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Post by ksne on Feb 25, 2009 20:07:34 GMT 1
Crikey! Shawsie that one word turned into a tirade! UTT with Lee Clark et al in charge.
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Post by scottieterrier on Feb 25, 2009 20:09:29 GMT 1
The opening line of his statement is ridiculous as I've just said, anyone who thinks he is going down the same route needs to watch more games and go to events where Clark and his followers are, he turns up ternent didn't, Clark talks positively and as though he knows what hes doing ritchie just didn't sound interested.
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Post by shawsie on Feb 25, 2009 20:11:00 GMT 1
Crikey! Shawsie that one word turned into a tirade! UTT with Lee Clark et al in charge. Thanks - think i must have the male equivalent of PMT!!! |
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Post by ksne on Feb 25, 2009 20:11:43 GMT 1
The opening line of his statement is ridiculous as I've just said, anyone who thinks he is going down the same route needs to watch more games and go to events where Clark and his followers are, he turns up ternent didn't, Clark talks positively and as though he knows what hes doing ritchie just didn't sound interested. I`m in agreement with you but like I said others are/should be allowed their opinions. |
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Post by waterloo1815 on Feb 25, 2009 20:12:37 GMT 1
One word - numpty!!!! Cos we really played every week for 90mins under gerry didnt we??!! I will get undoubted pelters for this, but am delighted the man has now gone - yes he produced some half decent football players but nothing more than that and whilst he deserves massive credit for some of his work, i do think the "sir gerry" tag is way overboard! It is going to take time for clark to sort matters out but am confident his new permanent signings are ALL better than what we had and the way things are going with other sides choking results if we can manage 9 wins and 2 draws out of last 14 games we still have a chance of the play offs this year which from where we were in nov is unbelievable!!!!!!!! PHEW. Not just me then |
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Post by digwon on Feb 25, 2009 20:14:07 GMT 1
im all for the academy but i dont belive it could get us to the top,Lee Clark with his contacts and ambition could get us the players we need to do that though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 20:19:10 GMT 1
Murphy did a great job for us, but we'd have never continued in the way we had been doing in any of his spells. The job of a caretaker isn't a bad one, you're under no real pressure yourself. The players are usually motivated by the sacking of a manager, especially a manager as unpopular as Ternent, so they are automatically going to a bit more up for it, without the caretaker having to do anything. They also know that a new manager is likely to be watching the games, so again will raise their game without any motivation.
Murphy got a bit lucky in his last spell. Last minute winners against Leeds and Walsall, 1-0 wins against Brighton and Southend where the opposition missed a penalty. And of course there were the bad defeats against Orient and Port Vale. If Murphy had continued I'm sure we wouldn't be any better off. But because he managed to get a few wins people start to think the team are much better than they are.
Clark has had to come in an inherit a squad that while high in quality, was massively un-balanced. He has to get to know the players and stamp his authority on the team. It takes time, and I think he has done very well so far. I said at the start we should give him this season free, and I stand by that. Hopefully we'll at least pick up some momentum during the last 14 games, but the main thing is that we're ready to go next season, and I am 100% convinved we will be.
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Post by gaz7837 on Feb 25, 2009 20:21:16 GMT 1
Quote in Examiner "LEE Clarke (his spelling says it all) has gone down the same route as Stan Ternent and Andy Ritchie by undoing a Gerry Murphy team capable of getting into the play-offs and possibly promotion. Dean Hoyle is an expert in cards and I fear that it will not be long before he manufactures a red one for Lee Clarke (?), as Town are at present only playing for 45 minutes and have once again become erratic and hit-and-miss. I hope that I am wrong but it looks like another season has been wasted, which may account for Gerry Murphy's shock departure." sent in by Robert Zubally from Longwood. My quote "Stopped talking S**T and support the team you idiot." I disagree with what this guy says, but he is entitled to his opinion. TTID!!!!! |
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Post by wadz89 on Feb 25, 2009 20:26:28 GMT 1
The opening line of his statement is ridiculous as I've just said, anyone who thinks he is going down the same route needs to watch more games and go to events where Clark and his followers are, he turns up ternent didn't, Clark talks positively and as though he knows what hes doing ritchie just didn't sound interested. I`m in agreement with you but like I said others are/should be allowed their opinions. Arent people allowed to give their opinions on other peoples opinions?  |
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Post by digwon on Feb 25, 2009 20:33:42 GMT 1
I`m in agreement with you but like I said others are/should be allowed their opinions. Arent people allowed to give their opinions on other peoples opinions? not really because its getting too opinionated |
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Feb 25, 2009 20:35:29 GMT 1
Arent people allowed to give their opinions on other peoples opinions? not really because its getting too opinionated yeah, but thats just your opinion ;D |
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Post by digwon on Feb 25, 2009 20:38:04 GMT 1
not really because its getting too opinionated yeah, but thats just your opinion ;D adhering to one's own opinion or to preconceived notion,is my opinion |
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Post by Polish Hippy on Feb 25, 2009 21:44:34 GMT 1
Thanks - think i must have the male equivalent of PMT!!! It's catching then ;D |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Feb 26, 2009 2:28:07 GMT 1
9 wins and 2 draws in the last 14 games? Only if we play them all at home!
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Post by Mr_shooter on Feb 26, 2009 8:15:48 GMT 1
he`s had 12 games!! in charge and from the second turnip was dug up and chucked i was happy to write this season off and back clark and co to have us fit and fighting next season if we make the playoffs were made this year then fantastic but for me i`d rather now see us be ready for next season let him get the players he wants in the summer then take this league by storm
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Feb 26, 2009 11:07:09 GMT 1
Personally I'm still really pleased with Lee Clark the backroom he has put together is Premiership class and he is trying to play football. We are though getting sussed out and teams recognise that we struggle to break down two banks of four, they're happy for us to play pretty stuff in the none dangerous parts of the pitch, wait for the mistake and pick us off on the counter. It's a compliment that they see us as a good team but also something we need to remedy somehow - I'm sure with time LC will find that rememdy though! Clark is going nowhere, personally I think even if we were in a relegation battle next season LC would still get the 10/11 season to try and get us up. The club is planning for the long term here (plenty of Dean Hoyle quotes to back that up) and have bankrolled a fantastic backroom. I personally think next we will make the play offs at least however this seasons it's beyond us realistically. Ironically if GM had stayed in charge I do think we may have made the play offs this season because he didn't need the time Clark has to get to know the players etc. I also don't believe he was lucky in his third spell as caretaker. We battered Orient but couldn't score and I've never seen a bigger freak result than Port Vale, who I think had about 4 chances plus a dangerous free kick and scored 4 times. Both bad luck so the good luck evens itself out IMO (if you say strikers should take chances I'll say keepers should save the odd pen  ) Still pleased with LC overall and happy to write this season off on balance |
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Feb 26, 2009 11:22:27 GMT 1
Personally I'm still really pleased with Lee Clark the backroom he has put together is Premiership class and he is trying to play football. We are though getting sussed out and teams recognise that we struggle to break down two banks of four, they're happy for us to play pretty stuff in the none dangerous parts of the pitch, wait for the mistake and pick us off on the counter. It's a compliment that they see us as a good team but also something we need to remedy somehow - I'm sure with time LC will find that rememdy though! Clark is going nowhere, personally I think even if we were in a relegation battle next season LC would still get the 10/11 season to try and get us up. The club is planning for the long term here (plenty of Dean Hoyle quotes to back that up) and have bankrolled a fantastic backroom. I personally think next we will make the play offs at least however this seasons it's beyond us realistically. Ironically if GM had stayed in charge I do think we may have made the play offs this season because he didn't need the time Clark has to get to know the players etc. I also don't believe he was lucky in his third spell as caretaker. We battered Orient but couldn't score and I've never seen a bigger freak result than Port Vale, who I think had about 4 chances plus a dangerous free kick and scored 4 times. Both bad luck so the good luck evens itself out IMO (if you say strikers should take chances I'll say keepers should save the odd pen ) Still pleased with LC overall and happy to write this season off on balance There is a realist on DATM I never thought it would happen. Seriously - you are spot on with your comments imo and I 2 would be happy to write th season off - However anything else this season is a bounus. A Bounus that surely would be reflected in clarks pay  |
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Post by shawsie on Feb 26, 2009 11:29:05 GMT 1
Personally I'm still really pleased with Lee Clark the backroom he has put together is Premiership class and he is trying to play football. We are though getting sussed out and teams recognise that we struggle to break down two banks of four, they're happy for us to play pretty stuff in the none dangerous parts of the pitch, wait for the mistake and pick us off on the counter. It's a compliment that they see us as a good team but also something we need to remedy somehow - I'm sure with time LC will find that rememdy though! Clark is going nowhere, personally I think even if we were in a relegation battle next season LC would still get the 10/11 season to try and get us up. The club is planning for the long term here (plenty of Dean Hoyle quotes to back that up) and have bankrolled a fantastic backroom. I personally think next we will make the play offs at least however this seasons it's beyond us realistically. Ironically if GM had stayed in charge I do think we may have made the play offs this season because he didn't need the time Clark has to get to know the players etc. I also don't believe he was lucky in his third spell as caretaker. We battered Orient but couldn't score and I've never seen a bigger freak result than Port Vale, who I think had about 4 chances plus a dangerous free kick and scored 4 times. Both bad luck so the good luck evens itself out IMO (if you say strikers should take chances I'll say keepers should save the odd pen ) Still pleased with LC overall and happy to write this season off on balance Hudds - agree with part of what you say............but whilst we should have beaten both vale and orient, it could equally be argued that we would have lost at leeds if becchio's header hit the net rather than the bar and glennon hadnt saved the pen at brighton. All in all i think you are spot on re teams analysis of our strengths/weaknesses - i just wish we could do the same sometimes eg last sat when we needed to get at crewe from the off and put them under pressure not have masses of early possession going nowhere! |
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Post by terracesider on Feb 26, 2009 11:32:54 GMT 1
Point about building for the long term well taken: But: When you've "written off" as many seasons as some of us old buggers have, it does tend to get a bit wearing on the optimism glands though I still have hopes for a play-off place THIS season (reduced from my usual prediction of going up as Champions ;D) 3 points AWAY from home on Satday would be a big boost  UTT |
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Feb 26, 2009 11:38:01 GMT 1
Point about building for the long term well taken: But: When you've "written off" as many seasons as some of us old buggers have, it does tend to get a bit wearing on the optimism glands though I still have hopes for a play-off place THIS season (reduced from my usual prediction of going up as Champions ;D) 3 points AWAY from home on Satday would be a big boost UTT Hang in there |
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