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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 18:20:53 GMT 1
You make a good point, however, we were under the cosh the last 5 mins (as expected being 1-0 up) it makes perfect sense to throw on someone to help the defence out, which he did. Not having a go at you pozza, because you make a fair point, but for pling to say we have a shit manager etc etc etc, is just pathetic! Maybe you should be venting your frustration on the players on the field, after all it was them who made the mistake! I know what your saying, but attack is the best form of defence IMO. Make them worry about you, rather than you worrying about them. I know its a world of difference, but you never see Man Utd change tactics in the middle of the match & sit back and try to defend. They keep attacking for 90 mins which stops the other teams coming on to them, which lowers the risk of conceeding. I also agree with Stevvy. Until we can start to score more than 1 goal in a game we are going nowhere. As said, I think Clark will address things in the summer, learn from days like to today and come back a better manager for it at the start of next season.
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:22:16 GMT 1
Seems to me we've got a great backroom staff and a truly sh*tty manager. what a c*nt you are. Fine, and you're a f''kin w*nker, but that's not the point is it. The point I was trying to make before you made it personal, is he hasn't really impressed anyone has he, the wins at home have been fortuitous and we've been crap away. Now we've got a fair few decent players, a great proven backroomstaff, where do you think the problem lies?
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Post by gbow on Feb 28, 2009 18:22:38 GMT 1
Knee-jerk reactions from the usual jerks !! Forget this season. We probably won't reach the play-offs. The manager has had just over 2 months following on from the mess Turnip left. Time to start to look forward to personnel changes in the summer and our first FULL season with a manager who is still learning. Get a grip !!
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Post by woodyhudds on Feb 28, 2009 18:24:38 GMT 1
This pling bloke just seems to be looking for a rise and is getting it at the moment. Total pointless reactionary posts, okay with hindsight maybe some decisions were strange but it is nots clark's team yet, he knows the limitations of our back four much better than we do and may have felt a need to bring Lucketti aerial dominance into play. Not excusing the result but looking at his signings to date the future looks very rosy. I'll be looking for Plings posts next season (or even this) when we go up. Cheer up you moaning sod!
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:24:42 GMT 1
Knee-jerk reactions from the usual jerks !! Forget this season. We probably won't reach the play-offs. The manager has had just over 2 months following on from the mess Turnip left. Time to start to look forward to personnel changes in the summer and our first FULL season with a manager who is still learning. Get a grip !! And therefore he's beyond critiscism?
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Post by stevvy on Feb 28, 2009 18:25:36 GMT 1
i'm sure we all look forward to hearing your reasons for calling him a coward-maybe you'd like to call him a coward to his face? Oh yes, why don't we argue with our fists everyone. He's a coward for bringing on a defender, and a crap one at that, why not T.C, when we should have just got on with our own game. i never mentioned fists or violence-he isnt a coward,and its a FACT (not opinion,but fact) that practically every single manager in the world,at any level (even under 8s) has put on an extra defender when they've been ahead-thats not being a coward,thats trying to protect the lead you have-i wasnt aware that trying to keep a lead by bringing on an extra defender meant people were cowards,since when did that become the case?
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Post by jimmymac1964 on Feb 28, 2009 18:26:14 GMT 1
I KNOW how to win a game of football........ATTACK THE FKING GOAL for 90 minutes!!!!not for 60 then defend,,,,we are no man utd,no chelsea,we are a 3rd division side and must attack the goal til the final whistle!!!!ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE as to what happened last week and this,,,,,
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:26:15 GMT 1
This pling bloke just seems to be looking for a rise and is getting it at the moment. Total pointless reactionary posts, okay with hindsight maybe some decisions were strange but it is nots clark's team yet, he knows the limitations of our back four much better than we do and may have felt a need to bring Lucketti aerial dominance into play. Not excusing the result but looking at his signings to date the future looks very rosy. I'll be looking for Plings posts next season (or even this) when we go up. Cheer up you moaning sod! Can't I let off some steam when they constantly dissapoint? Not saying Clark out or anything btw.
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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 18:28:30 GMT 1
its a FACT (not opinion,but fact) that practically every single manager in the world,at any level (even under 8s) has put on an extra defender when they've been ahead Bollocks. Never in my life have I seen Alex Ferguson put on a defender when winning a game 1-0 and totally dominating the game.
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Post by gbow on Feb 28, 2009 18:28:42 GMT 1
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Yup, pretty much so. Honeymoon period lasts more than 2 months !
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:28:49 GMT 1
Oh yes, why don't we argue with our fists everyone. He's a coward for bringing on a defender, and a crap one at that, why not T.C, when we should have just got on with our own game. i never mentioned fists or violence-he isnt a coward,and its a FACT (not opinion,but fact) that practically every single manager in the world,at any level (even under 8s) has put on an extra defender when they've been ahead-thats not being a coward,thats trying to protect the lead you have-i wasnt aware that trying to keep a lead by bringing on an extra defender meant people were cowards,since when did that become the case? Not saying a lot of managers do this, but why not try to kill off the game instead? And yes I feel it's cowardly, he's afraid to lose. Sit back a bit, by all means, but keep on the players who can go on a break when the opportunity presents itself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 18:29:29 GMT 1
Its unrealistic to expect to consistently win games (esp away from home) when you only score 1 goal. To win games you have to be able to get 2-3 on occasions and this team is incapable of that due to our lack of firepower.
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Post by birkbybloke on Feb 28, 2009 18:31:30 GMT 1
Were any of you actually there? Cos I don't see anyone talking about the actual problem - not holding onto possession and a non-existent midfield on the second half. And Gary Roberts being a showpony. And that c*** going on about Clark. Get fecked.
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Post by samhudds on Feb 28, 2009 18:32:08 GMT 1
Are you for real? Yes we do have some decent players, yes we do have decent backroom staff, but todays result is soely down to the players. Up until the goal it was an extremely good away performance. Clark knows we need strikers, he's tried to solve the situation but wasn't able to. We are playing extremely good football (down to both Clark and the staff), but the defence let us down AGAIN at the end, they really need to look long and hard at themselves!! You really need to stop all this Clark bashing, your making yourself look like a tit
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Post by stevvy on Feb 28, 2009 18:33:11 GMT 1
its a FACT (not opinion,but fact) that practically every single manager in the world,at any level (even under 8s) has put on an extra defender when they've been ahead Bollocks. Never in my life have I seen Alex Ferguson put on a defender when winning a game 1-0 and totally dominating the game. ask every manager on the planet,at any level,if they've done that at least once,whatever clubs they've been at in their life,and whatever level,and i bet all of them would say yes they've done it at least once in their career
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Post by waterloo1815 on Feb 28, 2009 18:34:32 GMT 1
we're stuck with this coward. i'm sure we all look forward to hearing your reasons for calling him a coward-maybe you'd like to call him a coward to his face? And when did you ever have the gonads to say anything to anyones face?? And for the record pling.....you're talking bollox
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:35:05 GMT 1
Sure, it's a bit "in the heat of the moment" knee jerk of me, but it's just so fekkin frustrating, results going our way and we fekk it up.
Don't you know the world ends in 2012, I want to see hudds in ccc one more time before I die ;D
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Post by jimmymac1964 on Feb 28, 2009 18:36:33 GMT 1
Are you for real? Yes we do have some decent players, yes we do have decent backroom staff, but todays result is soely down to the players. Up until the goal it was an extremely good away performance. Clark knows we need strikers, he's tried to solve the situation but wasn't able to. We are playing extremely good football (down to both Clark and the staff), but the defence let us down AGAIN at the end, they really need to look long and hard at themselves!! You really need to stop all this Clark bashing, your making yourself look like a tit sam we shouldent of been defending in the first place!!!!2-0 up fair enough,,3-0 up fair enough,,,but 1-0 up and coasting its just unbelievable really is!!!TTID
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Post by waterloo1815 on Feb 28, 2009 18:37:01 GMT 1
Were any of you actually there? Cos I don't see anyone talking about the actual problem - not holding onto possession and a non-existent midfield on the second half. And Gary Roberts being a showpony. And that c*** going on about Clark. Get fecked. At last.......I thought i was losing my mind and that i was alone in thinking the same
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Post by stevvy on Feb 28, 2009 18:37:06 GMT 1
And when did you ever have the gonads to say anything to anyones face?? care to explain what relevance that has to anything?well,apart from nothing of course-for your information,i've said things to peoples faces more often than you think
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Post by waterloo1815 on Feb 28, 2009 18:38:16 GMT 1
And when did you ever have the gonads to say anything to anyones face?? care to explain what relevance that has to anything?well,apart from nothing of course-for your information,i've said things to peoples faces more often than you think On webcam?
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Post by stevvy on Feb 28, 2009 18:39:55 GMT 1
no,in person
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Post by samhudds on Feb 28, 2009 18:42:43 GMT 1
No we shouldn't have been defending, but do you really think Clark told them to sit back and defend? He had to bring someone on to help the defence out, because they players was messing up going forward, giving the ball away constantly, why we switch off after 90 mins is beyond me, players need to sort it out!
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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 18:51:09 GMT 1
Bollocks. Never in my life have I seen Alex Ferguson put on a defender when winning a game 1-0 and totally dominating the game. ask every manager on the planet,at any level,if they've done that at least once,whatever clubs they've been at in their life,and whatever level,and i bet all of them would say yes they've done it at least once in their career I'm a manger, & i've never done it. So your "fact" is wrong. They may have put defenders on, but not when they are 1-0 up and bossing the game. Putting a defender on just invites pressure, anyone should know that.
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Post by 'Uddersfield on Feb 28, 2009 18:53:11 GMT 1
How was the game?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 18:54:56 GMT 1
in a nut shell we wont progress untill we can stop teams from scoring.all promotion challenging outfits can shut up shop.anyone can score against us.the penny dropped for me at leicester we re no where near as ruthless as we should be.i have every confidence the management team will get it right but maybe it will be next season now.however stranger things do happen in football.
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Post by Eric Cartmenez on Feb 28, 2009 18:55:09 GMT 1
Forget oding up this season i can't see it happening now and that may be a good thing because what if we do nik into the playoffs and go up but we are no where near ready for it?
Clark is building a good young squad to get promotion!
P.S. pling get a grip! a shitty manager?! He's a rookie for god sake he's not going to get everything right from the get go is he? Yes it is frustrating but clark hasn't got an xbox controller or something and cannot control what the players do on the pitch and the mistakes they make can he?!
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 18:59:05 GMT 1
Forget oding up this season i can't see it happening now and that may be a good thing because what if we do nik into the playoffs and go up but we are no where near ready for it? Clark is building a good young squad to get promotion! P.S. pling get a grip! a shitty manager?! He's a rookie for god sake he's not going to get everything right from the get go is he? Yes it is frustrating but clark hasn't got an xbox controller or something and cannot control what the players do on the pitch and the mistakes they make can he?! Sure. I've calmed down. Should really refer from posting on here when I'm pissed off, but I haven't reacted this badly in a while, so I thought it was safe ;D
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Post by OfficerDibble on Feb 28, 2009 19:33:35 GMT 1
When are we going to keep a lead & win the game. We seem to throw the points away right at the end. Is it a mental thing, tiredness or just crap away? Other promotion contenders seem to salvage points at the death. Im sorry but the management & players have to take responsability & address it before we talk about promotion for next season!
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Post by shelbourne on Feb 28, 2009 20:20:16 GMT 1
Never ever have I heard you be anything but goodbying or never ever going again when we don`t win
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