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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 23:07:07 GMT 1
Far too negative for my liking is Clark once we take a lead. We got in front against a woeful side and should have pushed on looking for more goals. Clark has a better idea and switches to 451 and spends the last 20 minutes watching us smack it up to boothy in no general direction giving them the ball straight back. No one was prepared to put their foot on the ball especially Butler and Williams who somehow managed numerous fresh air kicks Clark needs to grow a pair and back up his talk of being a positive manager. We were out of the play-off race before tonight so where was the harm in kicking on and looking for more goals God knows what has happened to Roberts but he was awful once again tonight and gave it away far too many times as did Ainsworth when he came on.
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Post by alex on Mar 3, 2009 23:13:24 GMT 1
I know what you mean mate, but i think this is symptomatic of the lack of strikers.
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Post by boxster2700 on Mar 3, 2009 23:27:03 GMT 1
clark is just like the rest -garbage he has cost us points in the last 3 games.
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Post by BlackLive on Mar 3, 2009 23:30:47 GMT 1
clark is just like the rest -garbage he has cost us points in the last 3 games. dont forget it is his first proper management role. give the guy a break
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 23:32:15 GMT 1
clark is just like the rest -garbage he has cost us points in the last 3 games. dont forget it is his first proper management role. give the guy a break He has 3 experienced coaches though who should know better to be honest
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Post by Terrier9 on Mar 3, 2009 23:35:59 GMT 1
1 st Whats this 40% less ...
2 nd Remember it was a free kick that has lost us 2 points
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Post by scottieterrier on Mar 3, 2009 23:38:20 GMT 1
It was a poor performance and were lucky to get a point even though Roberts goal was good, to negative again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 23:39:43 GMT 1
1 st Whats this 40% less ... 2 nd Remember it was a free kick that has lost us 2 points Thinks is UT, O Regan has been talking about Town defending too deep and inviting pressure for yrs now. It's nothing new, it's not rocket science, but the deeper you allow yourself to be pushed increases the opportunity for t'other team to get free kicks in them sort of positions.
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Post by huddersfc on Mar 3, 2009 23:45:53 GMT 1
Its his first management job yes, but look at paul ince and di matteo in their first roles, clark has spent a lot of time in coaching but he is not practising what he preaches, all this amazing football I have yet to see bar the odd spell for a couple of games. Once we get a one goal lead we just go incredibly negative, home or away and to be honest we deserve a lot less than what we have got so far. Peterborough at home we deserved nothing, leeds at home we deserved nothing really, Scunthorpe we deserved a draw, thats about 7 points less we really deserve and we should by all accounts have. To be honest if it wasnt for Faz's defensive coaching we may have 7 points less. Whether we score in the first minute or the last we go straight to defense, and it is Clark's fault, because it is such an obvious mistake that can be put right. At Northampton they give away a last minute goal, ok fair enough, learn from it but sort it out, then Leeds and Peterborough games u get stuck into them after the game and sort it out on the training pitch, point to the error of their ways and sort it out, but no, keep going the same way over and over again and its cost us deservedly so against Stockport and tonight with negative tactics. You just watch the game last night and see what Oldham have managed to bring in, Kabba and Windass and we are suck with the Everton waster who I wouldn't give the reek of my shit to. If he is worth a mill then so is kamara. Its ok saying that he should be allowe to bring in his own team but so far he has brought in Ainsworth who looks out of place, hasnt done anything yet, got some pace but nothing different to kamara to be fair, Pilkington who everyone seems to think is amazing, but again I don't think he is any better than what we ahve got and a very naive buy, and then this Everton lad, who would look more at home in the conference north, although that might be too good for him. Booth showed him just how to do it when he came on, and to be honest Craney looked a very good player each time he comes on especially tonight. Clark for me looks very naive, and if I was Hoyle I wouldn't be giving him more money to spend until I saw a vast improvement!!!!!
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Post by pompeyterrier on Mar 3, 2009 23:47:52 GMT 1
I could not only hear Clark yelling at everyone to push up but could also see him waving everybody forward like a mad man on that touchline. The players just seemed to ignore him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 23:47:54 GMT 1
Good points, huddersfc. You get my vote ... have a pos
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Post by SaleTerrier on Mar 4, 2009 0:02:23 GMT 1
pompy terrier i saw clark waving like mad too, hands on his head as he's being ignored the players know every game is a must win, they seem to go ahead and then push back, whilst clark is waving like mad to get them pushed up. colchester were physical, closed the ball down quick, and every time they were touched fell over, they stopped us playing, by fouls or force, so the conditions favoured them, but we should have pushed on rather than dropping back, inviting them too push on us with their strength today was the first match in a while that i've thought we didnt really deserve the win, we played scunthorpe + oldham off the park, same with stockport last week, and from what ive heard leicester but iw asnt there, yet when we come up against physical teams or teams we expect to beat, we seem to go out and not try as hard, and when we went 2-1 up, the players went back to being negative turned into a rant this also, some blokes that sit behind him really shouldn't bother being a town supporter, for the first 20 mins it was clarks fault the team werent performing, the penalty was off goodwins head :S , and then they started commenting on people in the pink link (good nosie) asaying how they only support us when were winning and there not true fans? dont know what there on about, (this was just after you lot had been singing) and then once we scored and there was a bit of sining it was why dont you do that normally, but the highlight of it all really was when the free kick went in, it was get rid of clark he just messes it all up going negative, he should have bought tom clarke on instead of ainsworth, well i feel a bit lless after that rant,
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Post by realist on Mar 4, 2009 0:03:05 GMT 1
give him a break he is and will do a great job for town as a ex player at the club i am afraid its typical town fans not all but some have more faces than a church clock
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Mar 4, 2009 0:05:27 GMT 1
We are looking a very average side again, and i heard a lot of moaning coming out of the ground. It will take time to build a decent squad, but we are so niave at times its untrue.
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Post by philex on Mar 4, 2009 0:09:17 GMT 1
Firstly, we went 4 4 2 with Booth and Pilks up top, secondly if no one is prepared to put a foot on the ball do you want Clark to put on a pai of boots and do it for them!? He was going mental on the touchline trying to get the instructions out even if they weren't followed.
We've been done by a penalty and as good a free kick as you'll see tonight, they never looked like scoring in open play.
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Post by loumacari on Mar 4, 2009 0:10:35 GMT 1
If you don't think Pilkington is better than what we already have you must be mad. The guy oozes class every time he gets the ball, its sticks to his foot like glue and he's only 20, I think he'll be a top player in a few years.
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Post by specialun on Mar 4, 2009 0:12:29 GMT 1
Give him chance
Winning is a habit - yes, we've thrown away two leads but equally, look at how many games we've won by a single goal etc. Far too easy to say its negative when it doesn't come off, but equally, does that make the games we held on efficient?
Slwoing a game down, reudcing the tempo is a skill - again it will take time.
The other side of it was northamptoon away when we lost the lead going for a 2nd.
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Post by huddersfc on Mar 4, 2009 0:12:32 GMT 1
The majority of the reason that Clark is bigged up so much is because it was a relief when Turnip had gone and anyone was going to be better, and because he talks a good game. If he put into practice what he was saying he would be a great manager but at the moment he is leagues away from looking a promotion (top 2) chasing manager. I remember getting the leaflet thing that the club send through (season ticket brochure) at the start of Ritchie's era and thinking this is so motivational, cus his interview was amazing in that brochure, then after a few games it became apparent he couldn't motivate anyone to save his life. I am in no way saying Lee clark should go, but I can't bear watching any more of this negative football, please grow some balls and get those wasters knocking it about on the floor, play positive from start to finish and sort the same errors out that appear in every game out.
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Post by loumacari on Mar 4, 2009 0:15:07 GMT 1
For goodness sake, we do not play negative football. Generally we are an extremely attacking team, you cannot describe Clark's style as negative simply because we sat too deep for the last 10 minutes in a couple of games.
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Post by specialun on Mar 4, 2009 0:16:51 GMT 1
The majority of the reason that Clark is bigged up so much is because it was a relief when Turnip had gone and anyone was going to be better, and because he talks a good game. If he put into practice what he was saying he would be a great manager but at the moment he is leagues away from looking a promotion (top 2) chasing manager. I remember getting the leaflet thing that the club send through (season ticket brochure) at the start of Ritchie's era and thinking this is so motivational, cus his interview was amazing in that brochure, then after a few games it became apparent he couldn't motivate anyone to save his life. I am in no way saying Lee clark should go, but I can't bear watching any more of this negative football, please grow some balls and get those wasters knocking it about on the floor, play positive from start to finish and sort the same errors out that appear in every game out. If he was a top manager, he wouldn't be with us would he! Relaity check me thinks! Give him a chance
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Post by yanfan on Mar 4, 2009 0:17:04 GMT 1
town have won 5 games out of 14 under clark and gained 20 points out of 42 which are pretty crap statistics and statistics dont lie. its time for our 'premiership' backroomk team to stand up and be counted i'm afraid.
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Post by tnk on Mar 4, 2009 0:17:54 GMT 1
Its his first management job yes, but look at paul ince and di matteo in their first roles, clark has spent a lot of time in coaching but he is not practising what he preaches, all this amazing football I have yet to see bar the odd spell for a couple of games. Once we get a one goal lead we just go incredibly negative, home or away and to be honest we deserve a lot less than what we have got so far. Peterborough at home we deserved nothing, leeds at home we deserved nothing really, Scunthorpe we deserved a draw, thats about 7 points less we really deserve and we should by all accounts have. To be honest if it wasnt for Faz's defensive coaching we may have 7 points less. Whether we score in the first minute or the last we go straight to defense, and it is Clark's fault, because it is such an obvious mistake that can be put right. At Northampton they give away a last minute goal, ok fair enough, learn from it but sort it out, then Leeds and Peterborough games u get stuck into them after the game and sort it out on the training pitch, point to the error of their ways and sort it out, but no, keep going the same way over and over again and its cost us deservedly so against Stockport and tonight with negative tactics. You just watch the game last night and see what Oldham have managed to bring in, Kabba and Windass and we are suck with the Everton waster who I wouldn't give the reek of my shit to. If he is worth a mill then so is kamara. Its ok saying that he should be allowe to bring in his own team but so far he has brought in Ainsworth who looks out of place, hasnt done anything yet, got some pace but nothing different to kamara to be fair, Pilkington who everyone seems to think is amazing, but again I don't think he is any better than what we ahve got and a very naive buy, and then this Everton lad, who would look more at home in the conference north, although that might be too good for him. Booth showed him just how to do it when he came on, and to be honest Craney looked a very good player each time he comes on especially tonight. Clark for me looks very naive, and if I was Hoyle I wouldn't be giving him more money to spend until I saw a vast improvement!!!!! Pilks is average?? are you watching the same game as me? he's been the best player on the park by a million miles the last 2 games. Only thing in your post i agree with is about juckavitch being shit and he is, the rest i you say is absolute crap
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Post by tnk on Mar 4, 2009 0:19:30 GMT 1
If you don't think Pilkington is better than what we already have you must be mad. The guy oozes class every time he gets the ball, its sticks to his foot like glue and he's only 20, I think he'll be a top player in a few years. Finally someone talking sense...have a positive ;D
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Post by scottieterrier on Mar 4, 2009 0:22:16 GMT 1
We sat too deep for the majority of the game and were similar against Stockport then went 1 up front against Crewe, Clark needs to get rid of afew players before next season then hopefully what he talks will become visible on the pitch
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Mar 4, 2009 0:24:06 GMT 1
Great stuff.
When he comes in, everyone says we'll judge him next season, and now people are saying he needs to drastically improve etc.
Hilarious stuff.
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Mar 4, 2009 0:24:20 GMT 1
Some people on here speak absolute crap!!
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Post by Jayeff13 on Mar 4, 2009 0:27:40 GMT 1
I knew I should have given this board the swerve for a few days! Unbelievable!
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Post by specialun on Mar 4, 2009 0:30:18 GMT 1
Tomtheterrier, andyfcuk, jayeff, tnk etc - the voices of reason along with the likes of paulmat tonight.
You've got to wonder!
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Post by scottieterrier on Mar 4, 2009 0:39:01 GMT 1
I'm not having a go at clark, I like what him and dean are starting to do, my concern are the players and if they are actually listening to what clarke is saying to them, I believe Clark will do a good job for us with the right type of players which has been said for a while. So hopefully some may understand from my earlier message I'M NOT HAVING A GO AT CLARK, WAKEY! WAKEY!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 7:43:18 GMT 1
We didn't go 442, it was 451 with Pilkington just in front of collins and craney. He was no where near playing up front, Boothy was on his tod
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