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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 14:41:51 GMT 1
The thing about fans message boards is they can almost encourage members to over play their point or to respond to the views of others in an over zealous way. Threads started on here over the last few weeks being no different. From the euphoria of the win over Leeds Utd to the utter disappointment after the recent last minute draws.
But what do people on here really think? Honestly!
I met an old mate on Huddersfield station after the game on Tuesday night who I'd not seen for several years and he had nothing good to say about the current team or management. He was in a desperately negative state of mind but was he right to be? I asked myself, I'm too 'understanding' of the team when things go wrong. May be I am!
To me, it seems as though we beat ourselves and each other up over incidents in individual games unnecessarily. Of course we all expected wonders when Lee took over but now the miracle hasn't happened some fans are starting to become very disgruntled and vocal with it. Personally, I'd prefer to allow Lee Clark and his staff time to build the team not just with actual playing staff but in how we organise and shape our play. Meanwhile, with 12 game left and 36 points to play for lets hope we do enough on the pitch to have the majority of our fans 'fully on-side' for next season. It would be a shame to let the Dean Hoyle
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Just a thought or two!
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Post by Tont on Mar 6, 2009 14:59:08 GMT 1
Good post AceT
I'm partuclarly disturbed at the disgruntled mutterings about LC and the team
Some of the comments having a go at Steve Black, of all people, are completely ridiculous.
I know managers pay the ultimate price and also take the accolade and the buck stops with them, but it was obvious to all on Tuesday night that his uinstructions aren't to sit back on the 18yd line and let balls be pupmed in.
I know we have to be cleverer, but lets face it, it's 3rd division football afterall.
I get just as upset as the next fan when results don't go our way, ( and God know my wife knows about it!!) but after Tuesday I was considering jacking in my readership of DATM, which is a shame as I bloody love it.
I have complete faith in LC, give the guy 12 months and his own team, then we can see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 14:59:46 GMT 1
Disagree entirely, what a load of tosh.
Only Joking Ace.
Good Post.
Lee, T. Mc Dee, Stevie B, and Fazackerlee wil show the fans how it should be,
In two years time when we stand on the verge of Premier League Footee,
We'll look back on this day in March,
And say, eeh wor right you know, that Ace T.
Have a positive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 15:04:18 GMT 1
The problem is if Lee Clark is going to be a success here he's going to need the fans on side. Negativity can be contageous and once a few people start questioning him it can spiral and before you know it he's lost the fans, and there's no way back from that. We really need to stick with him. Hopefully we can have a decent end to the season and he can win over a few of the doubters, but regardless of results we should all be right behind him from day one next season.
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Post by SN0W on Mar 6, 2009 15:12:33 GMT 1
good post Ace... I hate all the player bashing before a game, and I can't see what it achieves... we have a good foundation for Clark to build on.... Okay, we didn't get our instant success, but things are looking miles better than they have for a long time
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Post by runner76 on Mar 6, 2009 15:14:33 GMT 1
Good post. We should be happy we are even in with a chance of play offs with the start we had.
The future looks good, and every great journey starts with small steps.................
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 6, 2009 15:15:04 GMT 1
To me, what happens on the pitch is secondry at the moment. I am back in love with the club and desperately want us to win every game. 2 things that had stopped before April last year.
I know we have people running the club who's only and first priority is for the club to succeed.
And it will do.
May not be this season unfortunately, but Im confident it will next time and if it doesn't then it won't be because anybody's not 100% for the cause, which after the last 6 years is the most important thing for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 15:27:02 GMT 1
Just ask yourselves this question.
Disregarding results, when was the last time we had a season as enjoyable as this?
Highlight for me was Leicester away, it was essentially what supporting a football team is all about.
Great football by both teams, shit result for us, awesome support from the fans.
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Post by pozza on Mar 6, 2009 15:35:45 GMT 1
Expectation is the key I think.
Folk who support Town expect too much becuase of where we have been 30 odd years ago. They still think because of this we should be better than the others in this league. They think becuase we have a big stadium, and get a good crowd we should beat teams without even trying.
I do it myself sometimes, I find myself sitting there (Tuesday is a good example) and thinking "How are we not beating Colchester, who the f**k as Colchester) when in reality Colchester in the last 5 years have been more successful that we have, but becuase they are considered a "small" club, I, along with the majority of others think we beat them 3-0 with ease.
If your not a Town fan, and you look at us from the outside we are nothing but an average 3rd division club. Yes we have the asperations, and we have the facillities to be Championship club, and possibly a Premier League club in years to come, but at the moment we're not.
The Premier League being on TV 24/7 doesn't help either. I hear people in the ground sometimes comparing our players to Ronaldo, Rooney, Gerrard etc. and then slagging them off saying they are not as good when its bloody obvious they aint as good otherwise they wouldn't be playing for Town.
I think if people start to realise the above, and take all that into consideration when making comments on how we've played/how the manager has done then you'd not see as many negative comments.
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Post by terrier67 on Mar 6, 2009 16:51:24 GMT 1
I came home on Tuesday night, and asked myself, How did this draw on a cold Tuesday compare to the one against Millwall in the fog when it was nil-nil in front of 6008 fans (approx).
I for one am enjoying the games. Yes the results matter, but we are a millions miles ahead of where we were in the fog, both on and off the pitch.
You, yes we should stop beating ourselves up so much. Enjoy it, I can only think it's going to get better as well.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Mar 6, 2009 16:58:32 GMT 1
Anybody who cannot see the progress we have made since Stan left is beyond me. We were really struggling and would more than likely have been dragged into a relegation fight if action hadn't been taken. Firstly Murphy and then Clark have got us playing football again, the likes of which (tuesday apart) we haven't seen for several years and we are still in with a shout of the play offs mathematically, though I can't see this happening as our away form remains very poor. We will soon have a Chaiman who loves the club, a management team with enough time here to instill their way of playing and fitness levels into a young, exciting, much faster than in previous years team. Furthermore, it is not for want of trying to remedy that we have a useless strike force, but this too will be put right at the end of the season. So all in all, perhaps there isn't much to look forward to?  |
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Post by ksne on Mar 6, 2009 18:22:43 GMT 1
The thing about fans message boards is they can almost encourage members to over play their point or to respond to the views of others in an over zealous way. Threads started on here over the last few weeks being no different. From the euphoria of the win over Leeds Utd to the utter disappointment after the recent last minute draws. But what do people on here really think? Honestly! I met an old mate on Huddersfield station after the game on Tuesday night who I'd not seen for several years and he had nothing good to say about the current team or management. He was in a desperately negative state of mind but was he right to be? I asked myself, I'm too 'understanding' of the team when things go wrong. May be I am! To me, it seems as though we beat ourselves and each other up over incidents in individual games unnecessarily. Of course we all expected wonders when Lee took over but now the miracle hasn't happened some fans are starting to become very disgruntled and vocal with it. Personally, I'd prefer to allow Lee Clark and his staff time to build the team not just with actual playing staff but in how we organise and shape our play. Meanwhile, with 12 game left and 36 points to play for lets hope we do enough on the pitch to have the majority of our fans 'fully on-side' for next season. It would be a shame to let the Dean Hoyle /Lee Clark era start to wain before it really got going. Just a thought or two! ;D Once again you do my heart good by your post.UTT. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 19:02:32 GMT 1
Cheers Babes! I was beginning to think I was the only silly bugger around here. Most of us are Town fans for life so why not keep our heads up and while we all know anything can happen and probably will (This is Huddersfield Town after all) we've got to keep upbeat. Even when it gets tough and our dreams are shattered!. Us old hippy's dig positive vibes! Don't want to be on a 'bummer' (Bum Trip) for ever more! ;D |
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Post by tescobag on Mar 6, 2009 19:10:16 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 19:20:52 GMT 1
Neither does the division you play in! You're here on 'merit' too! ;D
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Post by tescobag on Mar 6, 2009 19:26:45 GMT 1
Neither does the division you play in! You're here on 'merit' too! ;D i know SHERLOCK, but we are still C.O.E ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 21:16:02 GMT 1
Neither does the division you play in! You're here on 'merit' too! ;D i know SHERLOCK, but we are still C.O.E ;D Course you are Victor. Just remember, 3 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 23:25:15 GMT 1
AceT, agree with a lot of that. Thing is that even allowing for the obvious disappointment of the last couple of games, when they felt like defeat, the bad mood on here is only temporary, which is just as it probably should be as football fans...
Over the last couple of days though, harmony has returned and it's a long time since this board has seen 'normality'. I'm classing normality as frustration and being pi**ed off when things like tues happen, but then after the dust settles a short while later, folk are having a bit of normal banter instead of ripping out 'virtual' spleens on this board. Then ramping themselves up for the next game and we start the cycle again. World beaters, play offs back on if we win etc. and folk looking for the 3ft rope & rickety stool if we lose...
Long may it continue. Things haven't been this good at our club for a long long time, even when Jacko was wearing his heart on his sleeve there was turmoil on this board.
When you compare our backroom team to that of many clubs & then add the business side, then this club really has got it all. Better to have both them teams pulling in the same direction, rather than the situation 16 miles & a travellodge away, where the chairman is simply waiting for the opportunity to cut & run and take all the money with him. What sort of future have they got...
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Post by htafc on Mar 6, 2009 23:41:50 GMT 1
The problem is if Lee Clark is going to be a success here he's going to need the fans on side. Negativity can be contageous and once a few people start questioning him it can spiral and before you know it he's lost the fans, and there's no way back from that. We really need to stick with him. Hopefully we can have a decent end to the season and he can win over a few of the doubters, but regardless of results we should all be right behind him from day one next season. I don't want town to turn their backs on lee clark if he does not have instant success. Wait till gabage players go that ex managers brought in. Let LC bring his own players and he will repay the faith shown in him. The best out there have been given time. |
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Mar 6, 2009 23:57:33 GMT 1
Just ask yourselves this question. Disregarding results, when was the last time we had a season as enjoyable as this? Highlight for me was Leicester away, it was essentially what supporting a football team is all about. Great football by both teams, shit result for us, awesome support from the fans. This is THe post in this thread and indeed the whole forum that sums it up for me,tired of all the what if's and buts,who is to blame,who is past it and who we should HAVE(not of) signed,hate the current bad vocab);)0. The change in the mood around the whole stadium,yes the south is a great bonus,but the rest of the ground has woken up too.... Long may it last,I am soooooooooo looking forward to next season on the back of the current trend which in itself is amazing after the truly sheeite start. Up the Town and the best support for miles...X |
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Post by megastar1 on Mar 7, 2009 10:06:22 GMT 1
This must be the most positive thread i've read in a long time. Totally agree with the sentiment. After tuesday I was cursing and saying play-offs now gone. But, you know what, I don't really care because i'm up early and can't wait for today's game. Why? Because Lee Clark is going to be a great manager for Huddersfield Town. Each game that goes by he learns something new. He sees the weaknesses and mistakes and doesn't hide behind them. He has been a manager for what - 13/14 games? He's just the same as the rest of us in a new job. It takes time and he's not a former failed manager who hasn't learnt from previous mistakes (ie Stan Turnip!) I have nothing but respect for this young man who treats the players and fans with total respect. He now has 12 games to start shaping his squad for next season. I hope in a few games times - if we haven't suddenly gone on a winning run - he will try a few different players and formations. Next year with a new right back; good central defender (for added competition to Clark/Butler); and 2 class strikers such as Lambert/Sharp for instance we will be 3rd Division champions.
The future's bright the future's Blue and White!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 10:29:36 GMT 1
When all's said and done, we're all Town fans and we all want what's best possible things for our Club. Individual games are not always the best indictor if you just look at results and like Lee has said even if we'd won Tuesday nights game he would have had things to say about how we played overall. Personally I like to hear that sort of comments because we all know where we can improve too.
That said, it will be brilliant if we beat Millwall today. ;D
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Post by Tont on Mar 7, 2009 12:00:43 GMT 1
The thing about Lee Clark is that he seems a genuine bloke
He tells it exactly like it is, good or bad - which is exactly what we fans want to hear - no hiding behind injuries bad luck or what ever excuse Andy Ritchie could come up with
He's the sort of bloke you could have a decent pint with and have a genuine talk about all the good things and bad things that he sees on the pitch - but I guess he's also got the underlying side of him, which all managers need to have is to give bollockings when they are deserved, and to praise when its justified.
When he first came he always talked about "the whole squad i.e the lads not in the 16" - this was totally the opposite of the previous bloke
He shows respect to the media guys,and, most importantly us, the fans
We want somebody who will take us forward and not try and fob us.
Deep down we want to win every game, who doesn't?, but if we played well and put the effort in, then although you will find the odd moaner, I guess most of us would be "happy"
I genuinely believe Lee will be in chair at Town for a long time and I'm so bloody excited by that its untrue.
I have my enthusiasm for the game back, and can't wait for Saturdays to come around now - i've even promised the wife a meal out tonight regardless of result, so I'm desparate for a win for her sakeas much as mine !!
Onwards and upwards
Town forever
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 19:58:38 GMT 1
Thought this needed bumping back up the board...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 9:16:09 GMT 1
The play offs have gone!
The main objective now has to be preparation like no other preparation for next season and hit the ground running in August. Hopefully we'll have a new goal scorer or two and this roller coaster season will be put well and truely behind us!
To me, it's point less bellying aching about what might have been, who's no good enough etc etc. The only way is forward, so lets get behind the team, get everybody mentally on side with what we're trying to achieve and stop beating ourselves up!.
AceT ;D
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 11, 2009 9:20:21 GMT 1
The play offs have gone! The main objective now has to be preparation like no other preparation for next season and hit the ground running in August. Hopefully we'll have a new goal scorer or two and this roller coaster season will be put well and truely behind us! To me, it's point less bellying aching about what might have been, who's no good enough etc etc. The only way is forward, so lets get behind the team, get everybody mentally on side with what we're trying to achieve and stop beating ourselves up!. AceT ;D Couldn't agree more - unless you were giving a free pie to people who responded. In which case I would agree so much more. Any chance? |
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Post by thomo on Mar 11, 2009 9:27:31 GMT 1
Clark has and will be given time. This season doesn't matter - he can't be blamed for the mess turnip created. It's Clark's time now to experiment and build.
Plus he's not a miserable old git like turnip - his character alone should breed patience amongst town fans. We can't judge him until Christmas (unless we have an awful start to the season). I would fully expect town to be in the top 7 or 8 positions come December with a decent chance of automatic promotion.
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