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Post by townfanjamie on Mar 8, 2009 3:45:35 GMT 1
Have I seen such a waste of space in the beautiful blue and white stripes as Jutkiewicz was today. What an utter disgrace. From the first minute he looked as though he was knackered or really disinterested and this didn't get any better throughout the game. He didn't win a single header, he never found anyone with a pass, he never came to the ball and he is weak. He's 19 years old for goodness sake. If I had the chance that he has I would be busting a gut and playing my heart out but as far as I'm concerned it's as though he thinks he's too good and doesn't have to try. Bollocks. Now I am not one to boo the team or any individual player and I'm all for giving them a chance but if he starts the next match I am going to personally ensure he knows what I think of him and his attitude. The lad doesn't DESERVE to be here. When Boothy came on he gave 100% and did more in his 35 minutes on the pitch than Lukas has done in all of the matches he's played combined. The lad is utter garbage.
Also, if he keeps getting replaced by Boothy he'll think he's getting the standing ovation for his contribution to the game and not because he's $hit and Boohy is a legend!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 12:25:51 GMT 1
I said to my mate, Jutkevicz is to Everton, what Denton is to us. If Jutkevicz is premier league, I'm Adolf Hitler. Probably showed he has talent on about two occasions yesterday.
Get Rid. And Don't sign ANYBODY that has ever played as a striker at Everton again, cos they just don't work at Huddersfield.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 8, 2009 12:28:01 GMT 1
Im still fuming over what i say Shitekavitch do yesterday.... absolutely fook all and he was knackered !! get rid now imo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 12:28:08 GMT 1
Wonder whether Lee Clark had ever seen him play or just went on the advice of someone at Everton
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 12:28:47 GMT 1
I don't think its a lack of effort, I think he's got some serious fitness issues (that go deeper than just been physically unfit).
He's be shit since Leeds, he should be out of the team now, which I think he will be, but there's no point booing the lad. He's probably feeling bad enough realising he can't cut it at league 1 level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 12:32:37 GMT 1
Where is his strength or stamina? Now I think about it, where are his movement, aerial ability, shots, passing ability, interest?
How can a 19 year old not last 60 minutes... ESPECIALLY WHEN HE HASN'T REALLY MOVED FOR THE FIRST 45?
More importantly, where is the exit door for him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 12:34:07 GMT 1
I don't think its a lack of effort, I think he's got some serious fitness issues (that go deeper than just been physically unfit). He's be shit since Leeds, he should be out of the team now, which I think he will be, but there's no point booing the lad. He's probably feeling bad enough realising he can't cut it at league 1 level. Against Colchester and Millwall, he looked like he was saving his energy by not chasing down backpasses to the goalie etc, and he is still goosed 5 minutes into the 2nd half. Seriously, there are dozens of young footballers playing in local leagues who could make the same impact on the game has he has.
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 8, 2009 12:49:26 GMT 1
He is totally useless. Surely if he's got some fitness issue it would have been sorted by now? He played regularly for Swindon before he went to Everton didn't he? I could go up front and put more sodding effort in. Clark was getting really pissed off with him yesterday, if I was him he'd be on the next train back to Liverpool.
If he stays till the end of the season and keeps playing I cant see him scoring a goal. I cant remember him having a chance yet in all the games bar Leeds. I'd seriously prefer Parker and Jevons back up front and thats saying something.
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Post by Overton Terrier on Mar 8, 2009 13:00:15 GMT 1
Although Clark is regarded as a "King" on this site, I think his attempts to find strikers,either temporary or permanent have been bloody useless.
He "signs" two - 1 can't play because he is crap and the other can't play because of some dispute.
If I negotiated deals like this for my company I somehow don't think I would get away with it - but in fairness I would have done my homework before signing a deal !!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 13:07:49 GMT 1
Although Clark is regarded as a "King" on this site, I think his attempts to find strikers,either temporary or permanent have been bloody useless. He "signs" two - 1 can't play because he is crap and the other can't play because of some dispute. If I negotiated deals like this for my company I somehow don't think I would get away with it - but in fairness I would have done my homework before signing a deal !!! Would your company have to abide by windows where deals can only be made in that time and it is difficult as nobody else wants to play ball with you?
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Post by sonny on Mar 8, 2009 13:14:20 GMT 1
What I can't understand is that Jutkiewicz's complete lack of fitness must be there for everyone to see on the training ground -so why pick him?
And we supposedly have a world class 'conditioning coach' (although he's obviously partial to an extra slice himself).
As always, there's the right way and then there's the Huddersfield Town way.
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Post by dxterrier on Mar 8, 2009 13:21:12 GMT 1
I see the knives are being sharpened on here again
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Post by boothys9iron on Mar 8, 2009 13:25:26 GMT 1
Boothy and Roberts to start for me!
jokeavitch needs to put his shellsuit and curly wig back on and get back scouseland!!
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Post by Overton Terrier on Mar 8, 2009 13:32:13 GMT 1
Would your company have to abide by windows where deals can only be made in that time and it is difficult as nobody else wants to play ball with you?
Answer to this is yes. All the time. Making it even more important that your research is spot on ! It's what you are paid for !!!
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Post by queensburyterrier on Mar 8, 2009 13:47:09 GMT 1
I said to my mate, Jutkevicz is to Everton, what Denton is to us. If Jutkevicz is premier league, I'm Adolf Hitler. Probably showed he has talent on about two occasions yesterday. Get Rid. And Don't sign ANYBODY that has ever played as a striker at Everton again, cos they just don't work at Huddersfield.How about Cadamateri and Horne..?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 14:19:19 GMT 1
He "signs" two - 1 can't play because he is crap and the other can't play because of some dispute. Blame Clark all you want for Lukas, but surely you can't blame him for the Tehoue situation, as far as everybody was concerned he was a free agent, the fact that he wasn't has nothing to do with Lee Clark.
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Post by wonderousworthy on Mar 8, 2009 14:27:01 GMT 1
I said to my mate, Jutkevicz is to Everton, what Denton is to us. If Jutkevicz is premier league, I'm Adolf Hitler. Probably showed he has talent on about two occasions yesterday. Get Rid. And Don't sign ANYBODY that has ever played as a striker at Everton again, cos they just don't work at Huddersfield.I'll give you Horne How about Cadamateri and Horne..?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 14:28:29 GMT 1
I said to my mate, Jutkevicz is to Everton, what Denton is to us. If Jutkevicz is premier league, I'm Adolf Hitler. Probably showed he has talent on about two occasions yesterday. Get Rid. And Don't sign ANYBODY that has ever played as a striker at Everton again, cos they just don't work at Huddersfield.How about Cadamateri and Horne..? I don't want to slag Cads off, because I like his effort, and he does add something to the side, but at the end of the day, he's a striker who doesn't score. Yes, he makes more of an impact than Jutkevicz, Jevons, Parker etc. But his lack of goals, and his susceptibility to injury means, for me, he needs replacing in the long term. If he'd bagged as many goals this season as Collins, I'd have a different opinion of him, but he hasn't. Sorry to say it, but if we're going to progress up the leagues, Cads has got to go.
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Post by thenorwegianone on Mar 8, 2009 14:29:44 GMT 1
I said to my mate, Jutkevicz is to Everton, what Denton is to us. If Jutkevicz is premier league, I'm Adolf Hitler. Probably showed he has talent on about two occasions yesterday. Get Rid. And Don't sign ANYBODY that has ever played as a striker at Everton again, cos they just don't work at Huddersfield.How about Cadamateri and Horne..? Eeeeeh, Horne as a striker?! Don't get me wrong, he'd still do a better job than Jevons and Jutka, but don't think he played much up front for the blues or town ;-)
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Post by thrice on Mar 8, 2009 14:30:13 GMT 1
I dont see it as a lack of fitness, his problem is a total lack of heart and application.
Prestonterrier said bluntly "not what we needed" after the Crewe game (that I missed) and I thought that was a bit premature but by god you called that one right fella.
What must the Everton scouting reports be saying about him!!!
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 8, 2009 15:45:45 GMT 1
Although Clark is regarded as a "King" on this site, I think his attempts to find strikers,either temporary or permanent have been bloody useless. He "signs" two - 1 can't play because he is crap and the other can't play because of some dispute. You're a brave man Overton T, risking being burnt at the DATM stake for heresy for making a less than 100% complimentary comment about Lee Clark. You are though completely correct. PS Just to save some of the "usual suspects" some typing time, this comment doesn't mean I think we should get rid of Lee Clark just that it really is possible to think he may be the right man for the job but recognise he's made mistakes. How it can be stated (as it was buy one poster this week) he has complete faith in LC when a) our record under him is played 15 points 20. b) He thinks Lucas J deserves to wear the shirt. c) James Berrett appears to be at best his 5th choice central midfield player. d) His tactic of choice at defending corners is all 11 men in our own final third is I'm afraid stretching my own "blind" devotion too far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 15:56:28 GMT 1
If I negotiated deals like this for my company I somehow don't think I would get away with it - but in fairness I would have done my homework before signing a deal !!! Well I've woken up this Sunday morning to a world where the manager now sorts out all the negotiations and contracts. What a strange world we live in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 16:05:42 GMT 1
Although Clark is regarded as a "King" on this site, I think his attempts to find strikers,either temporary or permanent have been bloody useless. He "signs" two - 1 can't play because he is crap and the other can't play because of some dispute. You're a brave man Overton T, risking being burnt at the DATM stake for heresy for making a less than 100% complimentary comment about Lee Clark. You are though completely correct. PS Just to save some of the "usual suspects" some typing time, this comment doesn't mean I think we should get rid of Lee Clark just that it really is possible to think he may be the right man for the job but recognise he's made mistakes. How it can be stated (as it was buy one poster this week) he has complete faith in LC when a) our record under him is played 15 points 20. b) He thinks Lucas J deserves to wear the shirt. c) James Berrett appears to be at best his 5th choice central midfield player. d) His tactic of choice at defending corners is all 11 men in our own final third is I'm afraid stretching my own "blind" devotion too far. There's a difference between having complete faith in Lee Clark, and knowing without doubt he will be succesful. Success can't be guaranteed, none of us know exactly how Clark will do here. However I would say I have complete faith in Clark at the moment, in that I believe he is the right man for the job, I believe that while he will make mistakes he will get it right in the end, and I believe he is perfect for our club at the moment. Afterall faith is all about belief, its not about fact. I'm not saying he'll get everything right, he'll win every game, or he is guaranteed success. But at this moment in time I have Complete faith in Lee Clark, and I'm not going to let a couple of dodgy results change that. I wish people would stop with this whole 'thought police' 'daring to question Clark' 'burnt at the DATM stake' argument. The fact is Lee Clark is very popular on this message board at the moment, the vast majority are right behind him. Therefore if anyone starts quesionning him, its likely there will be a number of posters who try to defend him. Its not about not been able to have opinions, but if your opinion doesn't match the majority, its likely to be shot down. Especially if your opinion is that we should sack another manager after 15 games (I know that's not your opinion, but unfortunately some are already starting to think that way).
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Post by Floyds on Mar 9, 2009 9:58:40 GMT 1
I think evidence to date in terms of:
Results (average at best) Performances (less than average at best) Signings (Lukas, Tehoue, Werling? still no striker who can score a goal) Tactics (questionable)
Then people are perfectly entitled to debate his progress (or lack of it) without being accused of being a "cretin" or wanting Clark sacked
Dont think anyone has said that?
But there is a middle ground between your "complete faith" and "i want clark sacked"........surely?
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Mar 9, 2009 10:23:13 GMT 1
bring back parker i say all is forgiven ive never seen such a useless un intrested player in a town shirt ever i was hoping to hear this morning that he had been sent back, id have anyone up front but him, Everton got ripped off for a million when they bought him at least hes only on loan here
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 10:23:53 GMT 1
I think evidence to date in terms of: Results (average at best) Performances (less than average at best) Signings (Lukas, Tehoue, Werling? still no striker who can score a goal) Tactics (questionable) Then people are perfectly entitled to debate his progress (or lack of it) without being accused of being a "cretin" or wanting Clark sacked Dont think anyone has said that? But there is a middle ground between your "complete faith" and "i want clark sacked"........surely? Of course there is, I totally agree with you. My argument was that it is possible to have complete faith in Clark, and that there are no 'thought police' on DATM, its just that more people are pro Clark at the moment.
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