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Post by kosi on Mar 10, 2009 23:59:24 GMT 1
So plenty of moneys been thrown at it this season and we find ourselves where we always seem to be. The centenary season has been a massive let down. Who knows what the future holds and the jury is still out for me with LC and co. Our away form is embarrassing. As leeds and sadford look set fair for an exciting end of season, we are left waiting for the next one yet again. You cant put it all down to stan. Clark is far from bullet proof. Feeling let down by everyone except dean hoyle. Rant over
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Post by townfanjamie on Mar 11, 2009 0:02:01 GMT 1
You used to post some decent, well thought out things on here... what happened?
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Post by huddy on Mar 11, 2009 0:02:33 GMT 1
Personally I think we have had more luck go against us than anybody this season seems it just wasn't to be, although the beautiful football we played when Clark first came as gone though. But I think next season will be a big one for us and it does seem like it every year the maybe next year saying, but I have a feeling big things will happen for us we need a goalscorer and to get that quick passing game back going.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Mar 11, 2009 0:03:26 GMT 1
That post would have been ok on saturday but a bit strange to post it after a fairly positive result/performance tonight!
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Post by 'Uddersfield on Mar 11, 2009 0:07:31 GMT 1
No no, we should be thrashing top 3 teams like MK Dons away from home. We won the league three times in a row you know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 0:07:46 GMT 1
Its a crap post cos its so delayed and premature at the same time. I was unaware that tonight was the final game of the season And also, surely it can't have only just dawned on you roughly where we are in the league?
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Post by Sowerby town fan on Mar 11, 2009 0:08:12 GMT 1
Over reaction,give it a rest, moaning for the sake of it,we were never going to be anything other than we are this season. Now next season...will be a different story.
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Post by stevvy on Mar 11, 2009 0:10:53 GMT 1
if we'd had more luck in these last 4 games,we'd have picked up an extra 7 points (that we've lost due to 90th min goals/non goals) and be on the very edge of the playoffs-thats the sort of small difference between midtable,and playoffs,a bit better luck and we could have been right up there
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Post by kosi on Mar 11, 2009 0:11:29 GMT 1
Just fooked off with this flaming division. Really thought clark was the man to get us out of it but now i aint sure. Shades of gary mcallister of leeds. Great player in his time and team played nice football on the eye but just not cutting it. the away form is shocking and hes had plenty of cash thrown at him with a backroom staff that would put some premier league clubs to shame. I would have expected to see more progress by now. Yes compare to stan its a bit better but certainly not a million times better as some on here would have you believe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 0:18:41 GMT 1
Just fooked off with this flaming division. Really thought clark was the man to get us out of it but now i aint sure. Shades of gary mcallister of leeds. Great player in his time and team played nice football on the eye but just not cutting it. the away form is shocking and hes had plenty of cash thrown at him with a backroom staff that would put some premier league clubs to shame. I would have expected to see more progress by now. Yes compare to stan its a bit better but certainly not a million times better as some on here would have you believe. To that part I disagree that we are now playing a lot better standard of football than with clueless Stan. But I agree that the results are not THAT much better. But don't forget that Stan had a few weeks and then a pre-season to get it right and failed miserably. Clark has had a January transfer window - a window that nobody likes and is very difficult to work with. In a sense, it is not Lee Clark's team. How long do you think it takes to have a massive effect on the squad? We were being widely talked about as relegation candidates when ST was here, so to now be not too far from the play offs is an achievement.Also, you pick your times to post something like this don't you?
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Mar 11, 2009 0:19:53 GMT 1
like i said, a strange time to type that post! clark has the chairmans backing and the majority of the fans. he has had very little time to implement his ideas/philosophy and needs to be given chance. are you so upset with tonights result that you felt compelled to post that? a fortnight ago that would have been an outstanding result. people go on about how poor we are yet still expect us to roll teams over. surely you can see the benefits of the current management team over ternents lot? i'd be amazed if you cant to be honest. as a few have posted before, if you add a goalscorer into the team we are a good side and we wouldnt be cagey at the end every week as we'd have scored! surely you can see this? we will get 2 strikers in pre season so just chill out, enjoy whats left of the season and look forward to next season. if we are mid table in 12 months time re post this thread and you'll be bang on.
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Post by rage_of_ed on Mar 11, 2009 0:24:00 GMT 1
Very odd post Kosi considering how well we battled back tonight! I can see your point in general (in parts) but I think Clark will get there - to be judging him on so little games and a largely inherited squad is premature to say the least. I know it seems to be hard for us Town fans to be patient but it'll be worth it fella
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Post by kosi on Mar 11, 2009 0:36:08 GMT 1
Hope youre right folks. Im just not as convinced as you lot certainly seem to be that clark is the man. Endured defeats at crewe, leicester and carlisle, so certainly in a position to have an opinion. I know rome wasnt built in a day but no away win in 3 months on our budget is garbage by anyones standards. His record is average overall since he took over and the sexy passing football seems to have disappeared too. Plenty to prove to me despite lovely post match interviews and steve blacks words of wisdom. We shall see
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Post by stevvy on Mar 11, 2009 1:10:02 GMT 1
his record may be average,but take away the wins/points dropped by conceding 90th minute goals (or not scoring them as was the case last night) then it'd look alot better-northampton,stockport,colchester,and last night would have added another 4 wins to his list instead of 4 draws,and had we held on against millwall,that'd have been an extra draw instead of a defeat,so it could have looked alot better,but dont think theres any real need to be worried yet
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Post by davidpgowinghtafc on Mar 11, 2009 1:27:58 GMT 1
his record may be average,but take away the wins/points dropped by conceding 90th minute goals (or not scoring them as was the case last night) then it'd look alot better-northampton,stockport,colchester,and last night would have added another 4 wins to his list instead of 4 draws,and had we held on against millwall,that'd have been an extra draw instead of a defeat,so it could have looked alot better,but dont think theres any real need to be worried yet Aye and take away the Gerry Murphy led side's 12 points out of 15 and we'd be in a relegation fight, don't forget that either.
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Mar 11, 2009 1:35:32 GMT 1
well hes a young manager what everyone seems to forget is WE HAVNT GOT A DECENT FCUCKING STRIKER AT THE CLUB if we had got this then things could have been alot different but i dont blame clark for not wanting to pay over the odds FCUK THAT were not man city, but i believe in the summer clark will make it his number 1 priority to get a 20 plus season striker and if he doesnt then lets judge him then cos its plain to see thats what we need
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Post by kosi on Mar 11, 2009 1:48:23 GMT 1
Timing may seem odd after a decent point but its just the way im feeling on town at the moment. Could have been posted any day to be fair. Came away from the hartlepool game buzzing a while back feeling positive and liking what i was seeing but things seem to going backwards a bit IMO with performances, not solely results either and some bizarre tactics. Gotta be judged after the summer though to be honest and i will be giving my full backing to LC and all the players
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Post by boxster2700 on Mar 11, 2009 2:07:39 GMT 1
kosi my thoughts exactly, but if id of posted that id of been shot down in flames its a click this board and if your not in it woe betide ya,.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 2:16:26 GMT 1
The away form hasn't been great, but for me there's been 3 really bad performances against Carlisle, Crewe and Yeovil, then two pretty good performances against Leicester and MK Dons, and a couple of decent performances where we should have won against Northampton and Stockport. If we'd have won those games and got a point at Leicester then we wouldn't be thinking about our away form.
I think Clark's done OK, especially as we don't have a striker who can score a goal. He'd have liked to put it right in January, he didn't, so he's going to have to put it right in the summer. I've said it countless times that I'll give Clark this season for free. Its not his squad, he's a rookie manager. Depsite this I still think the signs have been more encouraging than not. I cannot believe that some people are already starting to write him off. Its not a case of clicking your fingers and the players will do what you want. Lets just be patient, especially tonight after a very positive performance.
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Post by bogart on Mar 11, 2009 2:58:08 GMT 1
I wouldn't say a good performance last night, first half i thought we were mediocre at very best but second half got a much better grip.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 11, 2009 7:40:16 GMT 1
I wouldn't say a good performance last night, first half i thought we were mediocre at very best but second half got a much better grip. so, half time talk = better play = good tactics........
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Post by Floyds on Mar 11, 2009 8:39:03 GMT 1
Think it is fine to say people believe we will improve in the summer and that LC is the right man for the job
But it is this fallacy that we have improved massively since he took over that i dont get?
He had the backing in January - from the 5 players he signed - Pilkington is a good one, Ainsworth has been on the bench / god knows where - and Werling, Lukas and Tehoue, the least said about them the better.
The results havent really improved from previous seasons - i bet if you took his points total and extended it over the season we would be, i dunno, 14th again?
Anyway - lets hope yesterday was a kind of turning point - im actually pleased we seemed to battle, fight and almost come out with 3 points at the end.
Would much rather take last night than playing nice football and being lucky to get away with 4 at Leicester. How that was a "pretty good" performance im not sure. especially when you look at their home record since that game.
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Post by pozza on Mar 11, 2009 9:30:45 GMT 1
his record may be average,but take away the wins/points dropped by conceding 90th minute goals (or not scoring them as was the case last night) then it'd look alot better-northampton,stockport,colchester,and last night would have added another 4 wins to his list instead of 4 draws,and had we held on against millwall,that'd have been an extra draw instead of a defeat,so it could have looked alot better,but dont think theres any real need to be worried yet And if my Auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle.....
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 11, 2009 9:38:38 GMT 1
kosi my thoughts exactly, but if id of posted that id of been shot down in flames its a click this board and if your not in it woe betide ya,. But that's because you're very silly.
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Post by boxster2700 on Mar 11, 2009 10:42:18 GMT 1
kosi my thoughts exactly, but if id of posted that id of been shot down in flames its a click this board and if your not in it woe betide ya,. But that's because you're very silly. just the sort of response i expected, hows this for silly fu-k off pri-k
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 11, 2009 11:08:46 GMT 1
But that's because you're very silly. just the sort of response i expected, hows this for silly fu-k off pri-k yes, very silly. Congratulations.
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Post by stevvy on Mar 11, 2009 11:11:09 GMT 1
But that's because you're very silly. just the sort of response i expected, hows this for silly fu-k off pri-k well thats mature isnt it
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Post by stevvy on Mar 11, 2009 11:11:47 GMT 1
kosi my thoughts exactly, but if id of posted that id of been shot down in flames its a click this board and if your not in it woe betide ya,. stop talkin trash (thats the main reason people would likely shoot you down,not because of some sort of clique)
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Post by leedsterrier on Mar 11, 2009 11:39:45 GMT 1
I'm with Boxster and Kosi I have my doubt about Clark and his team. Perhaps it stems from being completely underwhelmed by the appointment I don't know but I don't think Clark should be taking credit for the position we're in. For my money the reason we've been in touching distance of the Play-Offs is down to Gerry Murphy.
Of his signings Pilkington is fantastic, Ainsworth the jury is still out on, Werling isn't going to cut it, Lukas is a disgrace and the less said about Tehoue the better.
It's not negativity it's looking at it objectively without the aid of rose tinted glasses. The biggest mistake I think Clark has made is trying to make us play pretty football - we should play winning football, get that winning mentality. Mix it up, play ugly whatever it takes - once we have that then try to refine the style so it's more pleasing on the eye.
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Post by ram on Mar 11, 2009 13:22:12 GMT 1
Next season eh? Will he sign the 2 Strikers before or after we are expected to buy our {more Expensive?} season tickets?....My brass is ready,but only because I don,t mind 8000 gates,means I can get back to the Peacock quicker,to celebrate,without it being full of part timers..
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