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Post by malcolmbrown on Mar 18, 2009 10:20:07 GMT 1
I've got my fingers crossed that we'll stay up this season, I think we will.
However to avoid relegation next season we need a decent striker. I can't face going into Div 4, Div 3 is bad enough.
Who could we realistically get up front in the summer?
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Post by Batman on Mar 18, 2009 10:25:09 GMT 1
Get Wayne Allison out of retirement and bring Marcus Stewart back from Exeter ;D
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Post by stevvy on Mar 18, 2009 11:37:53 GMT 1
you honestly think we're at risk of going down?that means at least 7 teams below us have to pick up a minimum of 12-13 points to get ahead of us...........sorry,but it wont happen-we are NOT in danger of getting relegated
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Post by ben555 on Mar 18, 2009 11:46:46 GMT 1
I'll second that, no danger of us getting relegated this season. Strikers should be easier to aquire in the summer as they are either out of contract or clubs are lining up replacements. Much easier than the January window.
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Post by ram on Mar 18, 2009 11:57:03 GMT 1
Always assuming that players will want to sign for us. I want to keep hopeful about our Manager but there is a nagging doubt at the back of my mind,that questions his ability to sign these guys,and also to motivate our current squad for NEXT season ,which incidentally is the title of this post!
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Post by ben555 on Mar 18, 2009 12:01:15 GMT 1
I have small doubts too, but another voice in my head thinks he'll het it right in the summer.
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Post by ram on Mar 18, 2009 12:08:49 GMT 1
I will purchase a season ticket anyway.Its sort of.....what will I miss out of if I don,t? last few seasons very frustrating.who can tell what the future holds?Keeping fingers crossed that THIS close season will be different
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 12:11:00 GMT 1
I don't see how you can say to avoid relegation next season we need a decent striker, when we've been comfortably mid table this season without a decent striker.
If we are to get promotion we need a decent striker yes, if we don't we'll probably finish mid table again.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Mar 18, 2009 12:39:17 GMT 1
I've got my fingers crossed that we'll stay up this season, I think we will.
However to avoid relegation next season we need a decent striker. I can't face going into Div 4, Div 3 is bad enough. Most bizarre post of the season goes to................
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Post by malcolmbrown on Mar 18, 2009 12:55:38 GMT 1
Given that we are plummeting down the table at a place a week, I don't think relegation is something we should rule out next season. Therefore I fail to see why this thread is the most bizarre of the season. We've gone down to Div 4 in the recent past.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Mar 18, 2009 13:03:21 GMT 1
Up until a few weeks ago we were in serious contention for a play off place. We would have to pick up literally NO POINTS now to get relegated. It is widely recognised that with a striker on 15 goals this season and we would be in the TOP 6! We will buy 2 strikers in the summer and probably add other positions aswell to improve what is already a pretty srtong squad. I'd suggest we will be alot nearer the top 6 than relegation.
If we go down next season i will buy your season ticket for the next 10 years but due to your positive disposition! it will be right at the back of the FM stand.
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Post by jonny5 on Mar 18, 2009 13:06:37 GMT 1
Given that we are plummeting down the table at a place a week, I don't think relegation is something we should rule out next season. Therefore I fail to see why this thread is the most bizarre of the season. We've gone down to Div 4 in the recent past. It's bizarre because we haven't even got to pre-season or this season over with and you're having negative thoughts about next season. Question for you, is the glass half empty or half full?
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 18, 2009 13:09:56 GMT 1
Given that we are plummeting down the table at a place a week, I don't think relegation is something we should rule out next season. Therefore I fail to see why this thread is the most bizarre of the season. We've gone down to Div 4 in the recent past. It's bizarre because we haven't even got to pre-season or this season over with and you're having negative thoughts about next season. Question for you, is the glass half empty or half full? I'd suggest its been knocked onto the floor, shattered, is totally empty and half stuck in his leg.
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Post by jonny5 on Mar 18, 2009 13:19:19 GMT 1
It's bizarre because we haven't even got to pre-season or this season over with and you're having negative thoughts about next season. Question for you, is the glass half empty or half full? I'd suggest its been knocked onto the floor, shattered, is totally empty and half stuck in his leg. either that or things are so bad he never had a glass, he's never seen anything in it, can't imagine what it looks like but sure as hell knows that he'll never ever see one either. ;D Ohh the joys of solitary confinement..
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Post by ritchie on Mar 18, 2009 13:22:56 GMT 1
I want to keep hopeful about our Manager but there is a nagging doubt at the back of my mind,that questions his ability to sign these guys What because he wasnt willing to be financially raped bringing a striker in? Sorry mate but Lee wont have been the only one to struggle bringing a 20+ goal a season striker in JANUARY! So far he has signed Pilkington - who is probably already as good as anyone of our squad. Ainsworth who once he sorts his head out will be a quality player - hes been in the league one team of the week probably more times than any one of our players this season because of his form at Hereford. Tehoue was a last minute gamble that has cost us pretty much nowt, he/his agent didnt tell the truth about still being under contract, how is this Lees fault? Cant really say it was a bad move by Lee as for all we know he could be a very good player. Werling - seems like there is a little more too this than we know but so far has not been a good signing - but hes only got a 6 month contract and just by him being here he seems to have brought Williams in to form and also adds a bit of cover if we need him. Lukas - well, the lad has been poor no doubt but on paper looked like he would be able to do a job, not sure if his poor form is because of medical issues but he will be off back soon. He was also a last minute thing that may or may not have worked out - but if he hadnt come people would have moaned... We arnt going to be able to loan people like Ricky Lambert in mid season. This was Lees FIRST dealings with a transfer window and came in to the club with a massive amount of pressure to sign a godly striker! Yeah he could have spent a million a got someone decent enough, but come summer would we still feel we had bought the right guy? We need someone who will be able to do it at this level and the next, not a quick fix. I dont think he has done too bad to be honest..
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Post by malcolmbrown on Mar 18, 2009 13:51:57 GMT 1
I started this thread and a lot of people have misread it. I said quite clearly that I was talking about next season not this. Based on our form of late we will be relegation candidates next year. We have been awful, and I know this because I go to all home and most away games and have done so for 30 years. I'm like any fan, I was hopeful at the start of this season, but am now more realsitic. Sorry if that offends the head in the sand brigade.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 13:54:34 GMT 1
OK then so based on Aston Villa's recent form they must be candidates for relegation next season as well.
Maybe you should go to the bookies see what odds you can get.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 13:56:56 GMT 1
I started this thread and a lot of people have misread it. I said quite clearly that I was talking about next season not this. Based on our form of late we will be relegation candidates next year. We have been awful, and I know this because I go to all home and most away games and have done so for 30 years. I'm like any fan, I was hopeful at the start of this season, but am now more realsitic. Sorry if that offends the head in the sand brigade. True, but you have also said it yourself that it is form. For a while we were in the top 5 form teams in the division so it is a bit of a case of swings and roundabouts. I think we look set to finish where the flaws in our current side have made us deserve to finish.
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Post by jonny5 on Mar 18, 2009 14:01:40 GMT 1
I started this thread and a lot of people have misread it. I said quite clearly that I was talking about next season not this. Based on our form of late we will be relegation candidates next year. We have been awful, and I know this because I go to all home and most away games and have done so for 30 years. I'm like any fan, I was hopeful at the start of this season, but am now more realsitic. Sorry if that offends the head in the sand brigade. And form is? Taken over 6 games, 10 games, 23 games, 46 games.......... If you assess our form at the end of this season for 46 games you will see that the form suggests mid table. If you've been following Town for 30 years how good has our form been over this period? Would you say we are a stable bottom 2 league club? You can take form to it's extreme, but at the end of the day you are really only as good as your last game.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Mar 18, 2009 14:04:53 GMT 1
I started this thread and a lot of people have misread it. I said quite clearly that I was talking about next season not this. Based on our form of late we will be relegation candidates next year. We have been awful, and I know this because I go to all home and most away games and have done so for 30 years. I'm like any fan, I was hopeful at the start of this season, but am now more realsitic. Sorry if that offends the head in the sand brigade. Hardly had in the sand brigade. I have watched Town since 1980 so I think i'm also fairly well qualified to assess the current regime. Hoyle has publicly stated we WILL SIGN NOT 1 BUT 2 strikers in the summer and A NEW CENTRE BACK and Clark has said he will be bringing players in during the summer. Surely this should be the time to at least attempt a little positivity?? Do you not think that with a striker on just fifteen goals we would be in contention for the TOP 6 now? As i stated in my previous post, if we get relegated next season i will personally buy your season ticket for the next TEN YEARS. This is not putting my head in the sand, it is simply having some optimism that Hoyle et al are determined to get it right and will do all in their power to do so. God, if everyone was as 'positive' as you..........................................................................
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 14:06:31 GMT 1
I started this thread and a lot of people have misread it. I said quite clearly that I was talking about next season not this. Based on our form of late we will be relegation candidates next year. We have been awful, and I know this because I go to all home and most away games and have done so for 30 years. I'm like any fan, I was hopeful at the start of this season, but am now more realsitic. Sorry if that offends the head in the sand brigade. And form is? Taken over 6 games, 10 games, 23 games, 46 games.......... If you assess our form at the end of this season for 46 games you will see that the form suggests mid table. If you've been following Town for 30 years how good has our form been over this period? Would you say we are a stable bottom 2 league club? You can take form to it's extreme, but at the end of the day you are really only as good as your last game.I hate that saying and I think Man Utd prove it isn't the case! I think "the League table (in the majority) doesn't lie" is more accurate.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 18, 2009 14:13:54 GMT 1
We have Gerry Murphy to thank for us not being in a relegation fight though dont we?
If Stan and Lee Clark had been in charge for the season we would be really struggling. Somehow GM got us those few vital wins, without which.....!
3 of his signings have been terrible, one has been arrested and hasnt produced so far whilst one has been good.
If we only sign 5 players, and with the success ratio as above, common sense will tell you that we will be ....... in dunno.......14th again next season?
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 18, 2009 14:17:00 GMT 1
We have Gerry Murphy to thank for us not being in a relegation fight though dont we? If Stan and Lee Clark had been in charge for the season we would be really struggling. Somehow GM got us those few vital wins, without which.....! 3 of his signings have been terrible, one has been arrested and hasnt produced so far whilst one has been good. If we only sign 5 players, and with the success ratio as above, common sense will tell you that we will be ....... in dunno.......14th again next season? Even if we go with your pessimistic outlook, 14th is still well clear of relegation.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 18, 2009 14:24:42 GMT 1
Niot really pessimistic?
Look at our previous season's finishes (including a probably one this season) - and look at where we have spent the majority oif these seasons. The 10th place finish was only gained following a late run under the charge of Gerry (again).
We wont get relegated next season, no chance. But if we keep the basis of the team and squad together then i reckon it will be midtable again. Lee Clark has to be given time to turn the club around - hopefully next season we can at least start to look like a half decent team. Dont expect us / him to get promotion though unless we really do have a massive clear out.
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 18, 2009 14:30:11 GMT 1
So you dont think that with 4 or so signings (say RB, CB and 2 strikers) we'd at least be in the playoffs this season. Hoyle and Clark has said we'll get players, and he has 3 months, not a 1 month period when nobody wants to sell. Between the Leeds away game and Leicester away weren't we the 2nd best team in the league?
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Post by Floyds on Mar 18, 2009 14:39:43 GMT 1
I dunno about that - 2nd best in the league? Thought we lost 3-0 at Carlisle before we went to Leicester.
Anyway - 4 signings - i honestly dont think that will be enough.
Fair enough we will have more time - but even assuming all 4 players work out well - the core of the team will still be exactly the same as it is now.
And ST made 9 (i think) and LC 5 signings - how many have actually been a success? Suppose Butler, Goodwin, Pilkington, Roberts?
Unless LC gets some fight, determination, leadership and pride into the current players who wear our shirt - then we will see more of the same gutless performances away from home next season.
How many soft goals / heavy defeats / listless displays away from home have we seen over the last 3 or 4 years?
Something has to change - not sure what - but it has to be drastic otherwise next season we will be sitting in Walsall / Tranmere / Hartlepool etc etc witnessing the same pathetic displays again and again!
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Post by jameshtafchi on Mar 18, 2009 14:46:31 GMT 1
I CANT BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY THINK THERES A CHANCE OF US GOING DOWN! Rant Over
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 18, 2009 14:53:27 GMT 1
I dunno about that - 2nd best in the league? Thought we lost 3-0 at Carlisle before we went to Leicester. Anyway - 4 signings - i honestly dont think that will be enough. Fair enough we will have more time - but even assuming all 4 players work out well - the core of the team will still be exactly the same as it is now. And ST made 9 (i think) and LC 5 signings - how many have actually been a success? Suppose Butler, Goodwin, Pilkington, Roberts? Unless LC gets some fight, determination, leadership and pride into the current players who wear our shirt - then we will see more of the same gutless performances away from home next season. How many soft goals / heavy defeats / listless displays away from home have we seen over the last 3 or 4 years? Something has to change - not sure what - but it has to be drastic otherwise next season we will be sitting in Walsall / Tranmere / Hartlepool etc etc witnessing the same pathetic displays again and again! We picked up 23 of 33 points between Leeds and Leicester which i think had us behind only Leicester in the form table. I know we dont have a team of world beaters but i think a lot tend to underestimate some of our players on here and have a grass is greener attitude. Your right that we could do with some leadership though. Oh Barry Horne.....
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Post by Floyds on Mar 18, 2009 14:57:37 GMT 1
Nah i dont underestimate them - they have proved over the last couple of seasons with their consistently average form - exactly in the table we deserve to be. And unfortunately for all of us - that is 14th in the leage.
I reckon if you looked at the weekly table since the start of the 06/07 season we have spent pushing 90% of it between 12th-16th!
We have had some decent runs in there (usually if not all, under Gerry) but on the whole we have been medicre at best.
And without big changes - that is exactly where i see us being next season. Not being negative / pessimistic - just an honest assesment of where we are at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 16:29:22 GMT 1
How can these people still walk about saying they're Town fans?
Sorry about language but I don't give a fuck if you've been home and away for the last 40 years, and sucked the player's toes clean after every game, what sort of weirdo starts talking about relegation next season when the owners and managers have stated they will spend money to fix the areas that prevented us getting in the playoffs this season?
Why would you call yourself a Town fan yet not give the gaffer ONE season to prove his worth? What the hell do you think you're bringing to the club from a supporters point of view? Please do tell.
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