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Post by kersh14 on Mar 23, 2009 7:33:16 GMT 1
Just something that has been running through my head while I have been reading things on here. How long does LC get next season  ? Will all these people who are against the boo boys still be clapping politely if we are bottom of the league after 15 games??? It seems that everything rests on next season when it is obvious that the cracks are already there. Tactics, Signings with the exception of Pilks. Dont get me wrong I am praying things will go right just like the rest but just wanted to know what everyone else felt. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 8:38:57 GMT 1
If we're playing the same after 5 games, then I'll start to ask questions.
Bottom of the league after 10 games, well that wouldn't be acceptable would it.
TBH, we just need to get back to the way we played earlier this season and throw some goals into the equation. Where we are in the league will then take care of itself.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 23, 2009 9:04:15 GMT 1
with the signings and a full summer prep we wont be struggling, we will be in the upper few teams, im convinced !!
called positive thinking !! ( i think we will be anyway ? ) steve Black in disguise !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 9:06:09 GMT 1
Just something that has been running through my head while I have been reading things on here. How long does LC get next season ? Will all these people who are against the boo boys still be clapping politely if we are bottom of the league after 15 games??? It seems that everything rests on next season when it is obvious that the cracks are already there. Tactics, Signings with the exception of Pilks. Dont get me wrong I am praying things will go right just like the rest but just wanted to know what everyone else felt. You pretty much answered your own question. We were never bottom after 15 games under Jacko, Ritchie, or Ternant. When was the last time bottom of the league meant the team got booed? |
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 23, 2009 9:44:40 GMT 1
Unless we look like relegation candidates at any time over the next four years, he should be here until 2012/13. If we keep chopping and changing managers we'll have this persistent cycle of rubbish with the occasional derby victory. If we look like going down, then fair enough, but we shouldn't all expect automatic promotion next year.
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 23, 2009 9:48:10 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 23, 2009 9:58:45 GMT 1
 Have to agree with werlinger, its the bigger picture and all the club and academy and scouting set up etc, it will take a few years to put all the mistakes right which other people have caused.... as long as we are moving in the right direction and playing some good football then we are doing ok imo. Its got to be a long term 2or 3 year plan, gradually adding more quality.... its not a quick fix ! Look at some of our recent results if we were in the championship next season we would get hammered by quite a few teams. !
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 23, 2009 10:01:18 GMT 1
Unless we look like relegation candidates at any time over the next four years, he should be here until 2012/13. If we keep chopping and changing managers we'll have this persistent cycle of rubbish with the occasional derby victory. If we look like going down, then fair enough, but we shouldn't all expect automatic promotion next year. Well said! And here is a piece of radical thinking... What if we shut up being negative and see what happens? And then if something like that happens deal with it then. What if we are top? Doesn't really mean anything until whistle goes final game of the season. As for saying he made bad signings, he's only had January for a start, which is notorious for not being able to get anyone decent, he's bought ainsworth and pilks who will both be future stars, the others at least are only on short end of season contracts unlike some 4 year contracts everyother manager dishes out so where was harm in them? Werling seems to have made robbie play better, and as for tehoue I can't really say how he's a bad signing when you've not seen him yet, he maybe quality, it's a bit of a mess but these things happen, Clark will know better next time, and again he was only on a short contract, because Clark had two other strikers lined up but couldn't get them in January so again what's the harm in trying someone he liked the look of shortterm until he can really get who he wants and build a team for the future |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 23, 2009 10:01:26 GMT 1
Unless we look like relegation candidates at any time over the next four years, he should be here until 2012/13. If we keep chopping and changing managers we'll have this persistent cycle of rubbish with the occasional derby victory. If we look like going down, then fair enough, but we shouldn't all expect automatic promotion next year. 100% agree. But the boo boys will be on him after 4/5 games IMO if we are not in the top 6.......................! |
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Mar 23, 2009 10:21:16 GMT 1
although Iagree with werlinger I carn't even believe that we are talking about how many games we should give clark at this point!!!!
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Post by timrankhan on Mar 23, 2009 10:26:30 GMT 1
If he is able to bring two strikers in and two or three others then it'll be his side. If we play like we can then he'll get all season becasue we will be up there. We'd have been in the playoffs this year if we could have brought a couple of strikers in
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Post by wonderousworthy on Mar 23, 2009 10:36:21 GMT 1
Unless we are in the bottom 4 i would give him until the season after next to get us up.
Mick Buxton said stability was the key to his success here and it shall be the same with Lee Clark. Let him get his own squad together and FFS give hime time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 10:43:53 GMT 1
As long as we're not looking like getting relegated he should get at least all next season.
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Post by timrankhan on Mar 23, 2009 11:04:16 GMT 1
being realistic LC would have to be a seriously bad manager to take us down with players like pilkington, roberts, goodwin and n clarke. We've played all this season and last seaon without a strikeforce and finished mid table, so with a good strikeforce we should be motoring alomg nicely
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 23, 2009 11:14:10 GMT 1
As I say all this about giving him 4 years, I do have the secret hope that next year we'll just be class and dominate the division, but I have that feeling every year!
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Post by terrierspam on Mar 23, 2009 11:22:00 GMT 1
all we can do is be possitive and let things happen and it will come good. we will start playing football, but what we also need to learn is how to win ugly.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 23, 2009 11:40:08 GMT 1
If history is any guide Lee Clark is already on borrowed time, I am afraid. Certain fans are already on his back, his predecessor had fans on his back before his team had kicked a ball, and it was the same with the manager before that. Jacko won some respite through the sheer relief of the club being rescued and then winning the play-off final. In truth, any of the previous three managers should have been given more time rather than having their hands tied and getting the premature chop. Lee Clark should also get the time to see the job through. I fear the fans will not allow that to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 13:23:26 GMT 1
DATM is becoming a farce with threads like this one.
After every defeat or poor result (which is down to the players) these kind of posts come out like we are turning the screw on Clark.
Just do what I am doing - accepting that his hands are essentially tied until the summer and that a team can not function well with the strikers at Clark's disposal. Accept this and leave the crap comments about pressure on him, etc and just wait out the rest of the season.
The end of season can't come quickly enough for me - yes we have had some crap results recently, but it still isn't Lee Clark's team and people are just being too inpatient than to wait until it IS Lee Clark's team - that is the time that will be ok to judge him and his decisions regarding players.
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Post by ritchie on Mar 23, 2009 13:33:09 GMT 1
I'm really backing Lee - BUT i'de prob have to say that if we are looking like relegation candidates come Christmas we might have to consider a new guy. I'm all for giving him time as long as we are not in danger of going down because that would be a disaster - but I very much doubt that will happen. The rest of this season he needs to learn about the other teams in the division and how they play then get some new players in and some out in the summer and I think we will have a good season.
I wouldnt sack him if we dont get promotion next season though, as long as we dont get worse. If there is still no improvement the season after that then he would have to go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 13:36:53 GMT 1
DATM is becoming a farce with threads like this one. After every defeat or poor result (which is down to the players) these kind of posts come out like we are turning the screw on Clark. Just do what I am doing - accepting that his hands are essentially tied until the summer and that a team can not function well with the strikers at Clark's disposal. Accept this and leave the crap comments about pressure on him, etc and just wait out the rest of the season. The end of season can't come quickly enough for me - yes we have had some crap results recently, but it still isn't Lee Clark's team and people are just being too inpatient than to wait until it IS Lee Clark's team - that is the time that will be ok to judge him and his decisions regarding players. I honestly don't think you need to worry. Hoyle will make all the decisions and I don't think he will be affected as much as the previous chairman by fan pressure. It's his money, he beleives Clark will do good, and he's said he'll be giving him time. I don't think Dean is as fickle and easily persuaded by other people around him as some of our fans seem to be. |
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Mar 23, 2009 13:39:55 GMT 1
Unless we're in dire danger of relegation, give him his contract length.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Mar 23, 2009 14:02:01 GMT 1
Next season? 46 games.
Season after? 46 games.
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Post by 'Uddersfield on Mar 23, 2009 14:45:51 GMT 1
I'm giving him 46 games next season. But the sad thing is, the majority of people won't, so he'll probably end up being sacked at Xmas if anything is vaguely going wrong.
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Post by bluearmy86 on Mar 23, 2009 14:48:57 GMT 1
I'm giving him 46 games next season. But the sad thing is, the majority of people won't, so he'll probably end up being sacked at Xmas if anything is vaguely going wrong. Maybe under Davy. Not now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 14:53:58 GMT 1
Unless we are in serious danger of going down he should be given until 2012 at least, if we do that we will be in the championship at least. It might not happen next season or the season after that but it will happen under clark and this management team if they are given time.
Since we got promoted at the end of the 2003/2004 season we have had four permanent managers and Gerry had three caretaker spells and what progress have we made? you can't keep chopping and changing manager every 18 months. We have the right man now and it is a long term project. If you want short term success get yourself to Chelsea or Man U!!!
If anyone is calling time on Clark already or after 10 games next season please take them outside and put a bullet in their head as you will be doing them a favour ending their miserable life.
IN CLARK I TRUST
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 14:56:19 GMT 1
I'm giving him 46 games next season. But the sad thing is, the majority of people won't, so he'll probably end up being sacked at Xmas if anything is vaguely going wrong. Doubt it very much I think Hoyle will keep the faith depite what all the twats say or do. When Ternent left Hoyle was aske dif the fans had influenced him and he said along the lines of not at all and the day the board of directors start getting influenced by the fans on these issues is the day to pack up and go home. |
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Post by In sooth- - on Mar 23, 2009 14:56:22 GMT 1
We all know the problem.
No strikers.
Obviously we decided to wait for certain players.Despite the slow and slow-witted defenders we could have been in the top six.
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Post by kleverboy on Mar 23, 2009 14:57:26 GMT 1
It's the law of diminishing returns... keep sacking 'em and the problem is just going to get worse and worse. Deano's made his choice and should give Clark and his highly qualified staff their full term. No short-sighted, knee-jerk reactions anymore, please! |
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Post by towntastic on Mar 23, 2009 15:36:25 GMT 1
I wouldnt be politely clapping if we were bottom of the league but i wouldnt be booing either, Clark is learning his trade and the worry is if the fans or so called fans work him out then it is likelely the chairman elect would follow suit. Things arnt great at the moment but just have a look at the blue square table and see how many clubs are ther that we were playing not long a go, we have to keep the faith and preferably gag the boo boys.
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Post by NookTerrier on Mar 23, 2009 16:49:15 GMT 1
Alot of people have to remember he's still cleaning up Stan's mess! He hasn't had chance to build his own team together yet. Wait untill the summer!
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Have to agree with werlinger, its the bigger picture and all the club and academy and scouting set up etc, it will take a few years to put all the mistakes right which other people have caused.... as long as we are moving in the right direction and playing some good football then we are doing ok imo. Its got to be a long term 2or 3 year plan, gradually adding more quality.... its not a quick fix ! Look at some of our recent results if we were in the championship next season we would get hammered by quite a few teams. !
