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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 18, 2014 12:27:58 GMT 1
Haven't seen one, so thought I'd share one I've done for another forum I frequent Saturday 20 September 3pm Elland Road StadiumIt’s that time of the season again! A visit to our nearest and dearest beckons, and after last year’s poor visit who could blame us Town fans for not fancying this one….however if you can’t get excited over this one, it’s time to give up and go and watch egg-chasing instead. The ManagersRepeat after me “he’s only two games in…he’s only two games in….” Powell’s reign has started in gritty, uninspiring fashion. It’s clear that, short-term at least, the footballing philosophy has been overhauled to a much more robust, defensive and unattractive proposition. We have had two home games, taken a point and in both games Town have looked laboured going forwards. His playing career may shed some light. A pacey full back, he played 751 games as a professional and scored just 8 goals… .Still, he was capped 5 times by England under Sven.. Town will be hoping he can repeat his Charlton win ratio of 41% (as his Leicester one of 100% is now impossible) and if he recorded his first win as Town manager at the noisy neighbours he’d win over any doubters early doors, surely? Neil Redfearn is a local lad, having been born in Dewsbury. He was playing for Lincoln against Bradford on Saturday, 11 May 1985 when the horrific fire claimed 56 lives. He played for loads of clubs throughout his career as a player, most notably at Barnsley, where he played over 300 games, scoring at a rate of around 1 in 4 from midfield. As a manger he has become a “caretaker specialist”, having temporarily taken charge twice at Halifax Town and thrice at Leeds United. In terms of permanent posts, he managed at Scarborough (where I used to be a steward in my student days!) for ¾ of a season, and had 9 games in charge at Northwich Victoria, where he lost 8 and drew 1. The OwnersDean Hoyle is the chairman and owner of Huddersfield Town, having joined the board in 2008, and taken over as chairman and majority shareholder in 2009. He’s a local lad cum good, having made a fortune in building up the low-priced greetings card business Card Factory from a business run from the back of a van, to a nationwide empire he sold for c.£350m in 2010. Since taking control at Huddersfield, he has gained a reputation for being “one of us”, a true blue dyed-in-the-wool lifelong Terrier who balances the passion of a fan with the sensibilities of a successful entrepreneur. He wants Town to be self-sufficient but successful and entertaining, and after 5 years in charge it appears he is realising how difficult it can be to balance those desires. He has also proven ruthless, sacking Lee Clark on the end of a 43 match unbeaten run (although we know how much that run can be misrepresented), and sacking Simon Grayson 7 months after a memorable play-off win. It remains to be seen how he will support Chris Powell – whether he will dip into his bulging pockets in January or not – but in my opinion, he is the best Chairman we could wish for in this modern era....and on the flip-side we have.... Massimo Cellino, who was the owner at Cagliari until the summer, and has previously tried to buy West Ham. He was linked with taking over at Leeds in January 2014, on 7 February Leeds announced contracts had been exchanged, and on 24 March the Football League confirmed he had failed the fit and proper persons test all owners are required to undertake. He appealed, and somehow an independent QC confirmed that his previous convictions for deceiving the Italian Ministry of Agriculture out of £7.5m in 1996 and for false accounting at Cagliari in 2001 did not amount to conduct that would 'reasonably be considered to be dishonest'. When he first became involved with Leeds, back in January, Leeds were due to host Huddersfield. It was reported, the day before the game, that then manager Brian McDermott had been sacked and would be replaced with Gianluca Festa. It was the alst day of the January transfer window, and star striker Ross McCormack went on Sky sports to explain he wanted to leave. Somehow, he stayed and went on to score a Hat-trick we Town were spanked 5-1. (dark days indeed). By the following week, Brian McDermott was back in charge and remained there until the end of the season. During the summer break Cellino slated McDermott for daring to take a holiday, and brought in Benito Carbone is a mysterious “sporting consultant role”. McDermott was sacked at the end of May, Carbone went at the beginning of August and managerial superstar Dave Hockaday was appointed “Head Coach”, having managed non-league giants Forest Green Rovers previously. In 6 games in charge of Leeds, Hockaday won 2 competitive matches and lost 4, before being sacked by Cellino. Cellino is superstitious, having a fear of the number 17 and the colour purple. Leeds have now retired the number 17 shirt and released 17-stone purple faced Paddy Kenny. Likely formations Leeds UnitedThe Leeds line up I have based on their last game out against Bournemouth: For Town there are many questions - the fitness of Vaughan, Hammill, Paterson and Gerrard, formation and so on So I have opted for what I would probably do if I were in charge based on what we know about fitness etc TownLeeds' Ones to watchSouleymane Doukara is an 22 year old striker-cum-winger from France, on a season long loan with an option to buy. Fast, string and able to run with the ball, we’ll need to watch him. 3 goals so far, despite an injury having ruled him out for a spell Billy Sharp is only 28 but seems to have been around for ages. He made his name at Scunthorpe with 56 goals in 95 games, although he spent time as a youth at Sheffield United, where he later returned to play before spells with Doncaster and Southampton. He is a predatory goal scorer and is admired by many for his charitable work, having set up The Luey Jacob Sharp Foundation in memory of his son who died at just two days old. Sharp memorably played in the games which immediately followed, scoring in games two days and five days later Played for both:Current Town Skipper Lee Peltier spent a spell at Leeds in between Two spells at Town and a spell at Leicester. He made 72 appearances for Leeds, scoring once, and captained the side in his first season there. Adam Clayton played 41 times for Leeds, before moving a few junctions along the M62 to Town, where he played 92 games, scoring 12 goals and earning Player of the Year last season, during the “Year of the Beard”. After much speculation he moved a month ago to Middlesbrough, with a fee rumoured to be around £1.5m plus add-ons, and Jacob Butterfield going the other way. Prediction 1-3 Town to get Powell’s first win with goals from Wells, Hudson and Peltier
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Post by runner76 on Sept 18, 2014 12:29:55 GMT 1
cheers for that. 2-2, Pato brace
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 18, 2014 12:43:28 GMT 1
Optimistic!
The appeal succeeded because the independent QC could not point to any reference to dishonesty when Cellino was found guilty - a court report, yet to be published, is the UXB sitting under Leeds United. Whether it ever sees light of day and when is another matter.
His previous convictions are deemed to be spent, and aren't the reason his appeal was (for now) upheld.
As for Leeds, always liked Redfearn and he seems to have galvanised them - hard not to respect a win at Bournemouth, even if the home side battered them for half an hour (according to Redfearn himself). From the bits I've seen if them on TV - cos they rarely appear! - they work very hard and difficult to score against and they have a bit of guile in the middle to supply a promising striker.
The only doubt I have about a home victory is how they will break Town down, who will be ultra defensive.
2-0 defeat and an uncomfortable watch from the corporate bit for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 13:17:24 GMT 1
Expecting a 2-0 Defeat.
Would be happy with a draw.
would be over the moon with a victory.
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 18, 2014 15:52:21 GMT 1
Peltier as right back? His natural position? No chance!!!
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 18, 2014 15:54:19 GMT 1
Really hope we beat the daegos!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 18, 2014 15:56:24 GMT 1
1-1
Murphy
Pelts Lynch Hudson Robinson
Ward Butterfeels Coady Majeski
Paterson Wells.
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Post by jkempf1 on Sept 18, 2014 16:11:00 GMT 1
1-1 Murphy Pelts Lynch Hudson Robinson Ward Butterfeels Coady Majeski Paterson Wells. Please explain, in excruciating details, why the hell we would drop Smithies, and Smith for that matter, after they worked really hard and got a good clean sheet against Wigan on Tuesday? Alex made a couple of cracking saves and didn't put a foot wrong...
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 18, 2014 16:15:28 GMT 1
1-1 Murphy Pelts Lynch Hudson Robinson Ward Butterfeels Coady Majeski Paterson Wells. Please explain, in excruciating details, why the hell we would drop Smithies, and Smith for that matter, after they worked really hard and got a good clean sheet against Wigan on Tuesday? Alex made a couple of cracking saves and didn't put a foot wrong... Lol, I just think pelts is a right back, I like Robinson too. Dunno really re Smithies, we need a solid keeper for a game like this but fair comment re he's doing ok.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 18, 2014 22:29:51 GMT 1
Confident we can get something out of this providing we can defend like we have over the last couple games, but we need to be more ruthless going forward.. Stick my neck out & say a scrappy 1-0 win.. Wells to nick one late on.
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Post by Marshleeds on Sept 18, 2014 22:31:06 GMT 1
A strange prediction from me, just call it a gut feeling that this will be a very one sided affair with plenty of goals.
The one thing I can't decide is which way........ to the extent that I have done 2 x separate bets .....one for Leeds to win by 3 or more goals at 11-1......and a disaster insurance bet for Town to win by 3 or more goals at 20-1.
We are buoyed by a great and probably unexpected 3-1 win at Bournemouth (amazingly our first midweek League Away victory since 2011 !!) when possibly signs of our much derided mish-mash of Foreign Recruits seemingly thrown together looked to be possibly getting it together at last. As much or possibly more than most we are a momentum team and the crazy scenes of celebration on Tuesday Night amongst players and fans alike suggests something may be clicking. With a possible 30k attendance predicted (our Tue win will certainly have added 5k) those players will either lap it up or freeze.
The mood on here seems to be the polar opposite with the majority seeming seriously underwhelmed by your new manager's appointment. My worry from a Leeds point of view is that Tuesday was a flash in the pan and our mainly foreign contingent will be taken by surprise by the intensity of a derby and bigger crowd. Seriously doubt it will be 0-0 and no doubt Smithies will be worth a goal to us as seems to happen in our fixtures. Add Peltier in CM (hopefully) and the spoils may be ours.
Our record as you will no doubt remind me against you is not great but getting slightly better in recent years, my worry if you get out of the blocks quickly we could be left behind. Let the games commence.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 18, 2014 23:25:51 GMT 1
A strange prediction from me, just call it a gut feeling that this will be a very one sided affair with plenty of goals. The one thing I can't decide is which way........ to the extent that I have done 2 x separate bets .....one for Leeds to win by 3 or more goals at 11-1......and a disaster insurance bet for Town to win by 3 or more goals at 20-1. We are buoyed by a great and probably unexpected 3-1 win at Bournemouth (amazingly our first midweek League Away victory since 2011 !!) when possibly signs of our much derided mish-mash of Foreign Recruits seemingly thrown together looked to be possibly getting it together at last. As much or possibly more than most we are a momentum team and the crazy scenes of celebration on Tuesday Night amongst players and fans alike suggests something may be clicking. With a possible 30k attendance predicted (our Tue win will certainly have added 5k) those players will either lap it up or freeze. The mood on here seems to be the polar opposite with the majority seeming seriously underwhelmed by your new manager's appointment. My worry from a Leeds point of view is that Tuesday was a flash in the pan and our mainly foreign contingent will be taken by surprise by the intensity of a derby and bigger crowd. Seriously doubt it will be 0-0 and no doubt Smithies will be worth a goal to us as seems to happen in our fixtures. Add Peltier in CM (hopefully) and the spoils may be ours. Our record as you will no doubt remind me against you is not great but getting slightly better in recent years, my worry if you get out of the blocks quickly we could be left behind. Let the games commence. Stop trying to pretend that the extra 5k is because you won midweek. You always get extra for your biggest game of the year
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Post by Marshleeds on Sept 18, 2014 23:35:22 GMT 1
The sudden surge in sales in the last few days at our end must be down to us just realising this is a Yorkshire Derby then?
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 18, 2014 23:53:27 GMT 1
The sudden surge in sales in the last few days at our end must be down to us just realising this is a Yorkshire Derby then? I think you missed the wink (or you are getting over tense!). Genuinely don't give a toss about attendances. I give a toss that we are no longer facing a team "managed" by some bloke who Cellino wanted as a useful idiot and now face a proper football man like Redfearn. I'm clinging to the hope of 0-0, but with little conviction (other than the second 0)
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Post by Marshleeds on Sept 19, 2014 0:00:58 GMT 1
No, meant to put a wink at the end of my response also. . (Does that mean we are both a set of Winkers?) Tense? ......Of course.....always am at the prospect of these games, months of local banter depends on this result..... Take your point about proper football man in charge, just cannot see a 0-0 at all.
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Post by Solid Snake on Sept 19, 2014 4:49:22 GMT 1
I really don't want to see CP f**king about with players in odd positions this game. I really expect to see Peltier in his genuine role as RB and Butterfield in his CM role. I also want to see Scannell tearing it up down the wing. Call me quite orthodox but this works.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 19, 2014 4:56:39 GMT 1
You've based the leeds team on their last line up. And the town team on some kind of fantasy football game youre playing... No way on earth will powell pick a team with lolley and majewski in it as things stand so might be best to get it out of your head and rejoin the real world
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 5:19:34 GMT 1
My first game this season and although I'm looking forward to it, I'm also dreading it somewhat. Still have vivid images floating around my head of the 5-1 horror show from last season, and with Powell's team choices being pretty clueless thus far, I'm really not fancying us in this one at all.
3-0 Leeds
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 19, 2014 10:21:09 GMT 1
You've based the leeds team on their last line up. And the town team on some kind of fantasy football game youre playing... No way on earth will powell pick a team with lolley and majewski in it as things stand so might be best to get it out of your head and rejoin the real world Thanks Ted, for repeating what I said, which is that I'd based the Leeds line up on their alst and mine on what I'd do. And seeing as I've advocated picking currently fit first team options in their preferred positions, not sure why this is not "the real world". Unlikely, yes, but hardly the realms of fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 12:37:23 GMT 1
We HAVE to set up like you written in the OP. If we don't we'll get pumped.
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Post by Floyds on Sept 19, 2014 12:50:33 GMT 1
Leeds aren't up to much, obviously, but still think they'll beat us relatively easily (3-1?).
Just hope it's not as embarrassing as last season's second half showing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 13:03:57 GMT 1
Can pay on the turnstiles tomorrow priced 41 pounds
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 19, 2014 14:12:59 GMT 1
You've based the leeds team on their last line up. And the town team on some kind of fantasy football game youre playing... No way on earth will powell pick a team with lolley and majewski in it as things stand so might be best to get it out of your head and rejoin the real world Thanks Ted, for repeating what I said, which is that I'd based the Leeds line up on their alst and mine on what I'd do. And seeing as I've advocated picking currently fit first team options in their preferred positions, not sure why this is not "the real world". Unlikely, yes, but hardly the realms of fantasy. Sorry if I came across all confrontational... Just saying it won't happen .. Wish it would
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 19, 2014 14:38:14 GMT 1
Ban him grimmy.
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Post by Macjinx on Sept 19, 2014 15:55:52 GMT 1
Can pay on the turnstiles tomorrow priced 41 pounds But that gives you a 5% share in the club. UTT
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Post by ss4 on Sept 19, 2014 16:05:24 GMT 1
A strange prediction from me, just call it a gut feeling that this will be a very one sided affair with plenty of goals. The one thing I can't decide is which way........ to the extent that I have done 2 x separate bets .....one for Leeds to win by 3 or more goals at 11-1......and a disaster insurance bet for Town to win by 3 or more goals at 20-1. We are buoyed by a great and probably unexpected 3-1 win at Bournemouth (amazingly our first midweek League Away victory since 2011 !!) when possibly signs of our much derided mish-mash of Foreign Recruits seemingly thrown together looked to be possibly getting it together at last. As much or possibly more than most we are a momentum team and the crazy scenes of celebration on Tuesday Night amongst players and fans alike suggests something may be clicking. With a possible 30k attendance predicted (our Tue win will certainly have added 5k) those players will either lap it up or freeze. The mood on here seems to be the polar opposite with the majority seeming seriously underwhelmed by your new manager's appointment. My worry from a Leeds point of view is that Tuesday was a flash in the pan and our mainly foreign contingent will be taken by surprise by the intensity of a derby and bigger crowd. Seriously doubt it will be 0-0 and no doubt Smithies will be worth a goal to us as seems to happen in our fixtures. Add Peltier in CM (hopefully) and the spoils may be ours. Our record as you will no doubt remind me against you is not great but getting slightly better in recent years, my worry if you get out of the blocks quickly we could be left behind. Let the games commence. Stop trying to pretend that the extra 5k is because you won midweek. You always get extra for your biggest game of the year As do you
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Post by ruud1boy on Sept 19, 2014 16:17:00 GMT 1
You've based the leeds team on their last line up. And the town team on some kind of fantasy football game youre playing... No way on earth will powell pick a team with lolley and majewski in it as things stand so might be best to get it out of your head and rejoin the real world Thanks Ted, for repeating what I said, which is that I'd based the Leeds line up on their alst and mine on what I'd do. And seeing as I've advocated picking currently fit first team options in their preferred positions, not sure why this is not "the real world". Unlikely, yes, but hardly the realms of fantasy. Boom!! Big G owns Ted's ass!!
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Post by ruud1boy on Sept 19, 2014 16:19:58 GMT 1
Haven't seen one, so thought I'd share one I've done for another forum I frequent Wouldn't have thought the regulars of 'Dewsbury Moor Doggers' would be overly interested in the Town/Leeds game?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 19, 2014 16:28:57 GMT 1
Haven't seen one, so thought I'd share one I've done for another forum I frequent Wouldn't have thought the regulars of 'Dewsbury Moor Doggers' would be overly interested in the Town/Leeds game? You'd be surprised what we get up to in between towelling ourselves down....
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Post by rocky on Sept 19, 2014 16:39:10 GMT 1
I've missed the last 2 home games due to holidays, but I was at Watford where we played good attacking football, creating loads of chances. The defence was horrendous, but by all accounts, Hudson has come in & immediately improved things. So surely, tomorrows team should be as close as possible to the one which played at Watford.
Defence - Hudson for Wallace and Peltier or Smith for Dixon. Midfield - Same 4. Attack - Wells for Vaughan.
Unless I'm missing something, I don't know what else there is to think about.
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