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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 24, 2014 21:30:45 GMT 1
Sorry, I didn't see theTown link, but my points still stand. I said that L666s had a bigger budget, you said they didn't and asked me to prove it and I have. Facts are facts. The rest, my friend is just opionion. For example, who's to say that if we had an £0.5m budget than L666s then Clark would not have got us promoted instead of them. At the end of that season going into the final game, both Town and L666s could still gain or lose out on automatic promotion. Small margins, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 21:45:40 GMT 1
Sorry, I didn't see theTown link, but my points still stand. I said that L666s had a bigger budget, you said they didn't and asked me to prove it and I have. Facts are facts. The rest, my friend is just opionion. For example, who's to say that if we had an £0.5m budget than L666s then Clark would not have got us promoted instead of them. At the end of that season going into the final game, both Town and L666s could still gain or lose out on automatic promotion. Small margins, etc. You do seem very good at avoiding my questions, but that's your right to do so. You mentioned earlier that bigger budgets should expect better results. By that theory we seriously underachieved in 2010, then. 6th in the league with the apparent 3rd highest budget in the league and we would have been 7th and not even in the playoffs if it hadn't been for Southamptons points deduction. I agree with you about small margins, though.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 24, 2014 21:56:39 GMT 1
I said that L666s had a bigger budget, you said they didn't and asked me to prove it and I have. Facts are facts. The rest, my friend is just opionion. For example, who's to say that if we had an £0.5m budget than L666s then Clark would not have got us promoted instead of them. At the end of that season going into the final game, both Town and L666s could still gain or lose out on automatic promotion. Small margins, etc. You do seem very good at avoiding my questions, but that's your right to do so. You mentioned earlier that bigger budgets should expect better results. By that theory we seriously underachieved in 2010, then. 6th in the league with the apparent 3rd highest budget in the league and we would have been 7th and not even in the playoffs if it hadn't been for Southamptons points deduction. I agree with you about small margins, though. I think Charlton had a bigger budget that year also only 2 full seasons removed from the Premier League. And also Suthampton who made the signing of Lambert don't forget. At least Clark did better for us than Wolves did in 2012/13 who got relegated with reputedly the 4th highest budget in the Championship. I should have said that the answer to your question was only an opinion, which mine is different to yours, but we are both totally entitled to and no amount of debate is likely to change either of them. You dislike Clark, I don't but that's that. Budget wise in his full seasons at Town, Clark didn't underachieve at Town with regards to the automatic promotion places. He undoubtedly failed twice in the lottery of the playoffs. P.S In an earlier post, I said Town would have been promoted with Southampton and Norwich, but of course I meant Brighton not Norwich.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 24, 2014 22:06:53 GMT 1
I still like Clark, for shhuuaaaa.
Even i if he's a bit bizarre, poor so far at Peaky blinders too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 22:16:59 GMT 1
You do seem very good at avoiding my questions, but that's your right to do so. You mentioned earlier that bigger budgets should expect better results. By that theory we seriously underachieved in 2010, then. 6th in the league with the apparent 3rd highest budget in the league and we would have been 7th and not even in the playoffs if it hadn't been for Southamptons points deduction. I agree with you about small margins, though. I think Charlton had a bigger budget that year also only 2 full seasons removed from the Premier League. And also Suthampton who made the signing of Lambert don't forget. At least Clark did better for us than Wolves did in 2012/13 who got relegated with reputedly the 4th highest budget in the Championship. I should have said that the answer to your question was only an opinion, which mine is different to yours, but we are both totally entitled to and no amount of debate is likely to change either of them. You dislike Clark, I don't but that's that. Budget wise in his full seasons at Town, Clark didn't underachieve at Town with regards to the automatic promotion places. He undoubtedly failed twice in the lottery of the playoffs. P.S In an earlier post, I said Town would have been promoted with Southampton and Norwich, but of course I meant Brighton not Norwich. I don't dislike Clark, I just think we were right in sacking him and facts are facts, we got promoted and established ourselves in the championship since he left, at least for 2 seasons (if we go down this season) so I don't get why anybody would want someone back who we have progressed without.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 24, 2014 22:40:35 GMT 1
I haven't felt established in this division since we got here History tells us it was the right decision to sack him and replace him with Grayson, likewise History would suggest that is was the right decision to sack Grayson and replace him with Robins. If we didn't sack Clark or Grayson when we did, in truth, nobody knows what would have happened. Do not mistake fondly remembering Clark's time here with wanting him back, as I don't think I have ever suggested this. I do and will defend him whenever he is IMO unjustifably criticised.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 24, 2014 22:45:40 GMT 1
I haven't felt established in this division since we got here History tells us it was the right decision to sack him and replace him with Grayson, likewise History would suggest that is was the right decision to sack Grayson and replace him with Robins. If we didn't sack Clark or Grayson when we did, in truth, nobody knows what would have happened. Do not mistake fondly remembering Clark's time here with wanting him back, as I don't think I have ever suggested this. I do and will defend him whenever he is IMO unjustifably criticised. Good on ya, I hope one day we might see him in our dugout again,, not for a few years though.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 27, 2014 18:35:49 GMT 1
#LeeClarke You have created the worst #Bcfc team in my 40-year supporting lifetime. If you are honest you wouldn't wait to be sacked 5:14 PM - 27 Sep 2014
Leave him alone and it's Clark not Clarke !
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Post by Stewpot on Sept 27, 2014 18:47:58 GMT 1
Oh will you listen to them fickle Blue Noses !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 1:05:57 GMT 1
A town win, a Preston win and a brum defeat. Not often this happens, Nick Hudds.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 28, 2014 1:39:24 GMT 1
Sorry, I didn't see theTown link, but my points still stand. I said that L666s had a bigger budget, you said they didn't and asked me to prove it and I have. Facts are facts. The rest, my friend is just opionion. For example, who's to say that if we had an £0.5m budget than L666s then Clark would not have got us promoted instead of them. At the end of that season going into the final game, both Town and L666s could still gain or lose out on automatic promotion. Small margins, etc. What the Hell is "opi-onion"? Were you just chive-talkin, is that shallot?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 28, 2014 6:25:03 GMT 1
Clarke is on borrowed time, hope he sorts them out
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 28, 2014 6:57:29 GMT 1
Clarke is on borrowed time, hope he sorts them out #LeeClarke You have created the worst #Bcfc team in my 40-year supporting lifetime. If you are honest you wouldn't wait to be sacked 5:14 PM - 27 Sep 2014 Leave him alone and it's Clark not Clarke ! NICK YOU ARE PRICELESS MATE
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Post by space hardware on Sept 28, 2014 7:52:25 GMT 1
One home win in 23 league games.
If Brum had a pot to piss in Clark would have been sacked months ago.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 28, 2014 7:57:48 GMT 1
Although I'm not a Clark fan could anyone have done a much better job under the Ts and Cs of the job and budget at his disposal ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 9:36:39 GMT 1
Although I'm not a Clark fan could anyone have done a much better job under the Ts and Cs of the job and budget at his disposal ? That's like asking if anyone could have done a better job than Mick Wadsworth did at Town. Players weren't getting paid when he was here and nobody gives him any sympathy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 9:50:18 GMT 1
Clark has to be one of the luckiest managers around
Came out of his time here with a big reputation despite being a failure in terms of achieving the main objective on a big budget. He's then been absolutely dire at Birmingham but somehow retains his job
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 10:14:03 GMT 1
Clarke is on borrowed time, hope he sorts them out It's Clark not Clarke.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 28, 2014 10:20:00 GMT 1
He's doing a good job with fuck all budget tbf, showing he can keep them up!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 28, 2014 10:43:34 GMT 1
Harsh.....
I've tried to keep patient.
I let myself believe that he is just a young manager learning.
Now I've realised he's just an idiot who people seem to think is a decent coach just managing awful players.
I think it's the reverse, decent players being managed by an awful manager.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 28, 2014 11:05:52 GMT 1
I have said on here many times that he would not prosper at any club. The man does not have it.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 30, 2014 21:56:21 GMT 1
Prob saved his job with the away win
Seems to be at home where he has massive problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 21:58:53 GMT 1
How shite must Millwall be to lose to us and then Birmingham
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Post by thomo on Sept 30, 2014 22:05:04 GMT 1
How shite must Millwall be to lose to us and then Birmingham I thought Millwall were awful to be fair. But a win is a win and hopefully will give us some confidence to take something from these two away games.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 30, 2014 22:05:59 GMT 1
Bloke can't win with the muppets on here.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 1, 2014 6:34:35 GMT 1
Even Clarky bet Millwall, tbf his away record with Birmingham is quite impressive!
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 1, 2014 7:57:08 GMT 1
How shite must Millwall be to lose to us and then Birmingham Same must go for Forest who drew with Millwall.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 8:10:51 GMT 1
How shite must Millwall be to lose to us and then Birmingham Same must go for Forest who drew with Millwall. 1 win in 8 isn't looking good for them though, plus Forest have started drawing with everyone and only have 1 win in 6 themselves
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 1, 2014 8:15:54 GMT 1
Same must go for Forest who drew with Millwall. 1 win in 8 isn't looking good for them though, plus Forest have started drawing with everyone and only have 1 win in 6 themselves I'd take a draw against forest, probably the one team we never ever beat, I'm sure the last time we bet them Jack Lester was playing up front for them!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 1, 2014 8:26:29 GMT 1
It seems like they freeze in front of their own fans in poor atmosphere , not as much pressure away. His away form is only thing keeping his job.
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