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Post by Giggity on Sept 20, 2014 21:48:16 GMT 1
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Post by Guthlac on Sept 20, 2014 22:13:46 GMT 1
That good!?
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Post by Cole on Sept 20, 2014 22:16:29 GMT 1
F*cking hell smithies! I would have had a better chance of saving all 3!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 22:19:32 GMT 1
What was Smithies doing with that first shot. Sometimes it's like he's trying to make his saves look great instead of actually just saving the damn thing
Still think he should have done better with the third too, he was only ever putting that in one place
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Post by hotshot on Sept 20, 2014 22:30:46 GMT 1
It's clearly time for Murphy to come in and have some game time now.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 21, 2014 17:04:54 GMT 1
Might have done better with the 3rd but Im not really seeing how hes at fault for the other 2. Are we all ignoring the deflection off wallace for the first goal that took the shot past smithies?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 21, 2014 17:07:41 GMT 1
Might have done better with the 3rd but Im not really seeing how hes at fault for the other 2. Are we all ignoring the deflection off wallace for the first goal that took the shot past smithies? Wallace wasn't even playing, you mean Hudson? He still should have saved it, the deflection was minimal. Think we should be asking why the rest of the defence stood around watching Austin take aim and rifle into the back of the net.
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Post by Larry David on Sept 21, 2014 17:08:59 GMT 1
He is our goal keeper. His job is to save attempts on goal. Remind me how many we have conceded this season? Ive lost bloody count. It Can't be all the fault of the defence.
Smithies is having a poor spell. Drop him.
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Post by rocky on Sept 21, 2014 17:09:48 GMT 1
Might have done better with the 3rd but Im not really seeing how hes at fault for the other 2. Are we all ignoring the deflection off wallace for the first goal that took the shot past smithies? It was the slightest of deflections & there's no way he should have been beaten from that angle and distance.
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Post by Stiggy on Sept 21, 2014 18:39:38 GMT 1
The first went straight through him! Simply not good enough for a pro keeper.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 21, 2014 18:43:51 GMT 1
Good grief! Some folk are getting so critical and their disappointment is affecting their vision. Smithies had no chance with the first - the deflection took it away from him when he was already diving to cover the original angle of the shot. Some 'supporters' need to shake their heads posting bile about Dean, CP and the players as they do. Yes we're going through a tough patch and it's not pretty or exciting to watch at the moment but slagging people at the club off will not help. Try supporting until Christmas and then let's see where we stand. When the going gets tough........
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 21, 2014 18:53:03 GMT 1
The going is already tough Pete.
What the fans are showing is honesty.
He's a poor keeper at this level IMO is smithies. He'll be alright for when we're back in league one.
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Post by hd2terrier on Sept 21, 2014 18:54:20 GMT 1
Smithies fault for 1st goal hahaaha fuck off wankers
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Post by Stiggy on Sept 21, 2014 19:06:52 GMT 1
Just looked at it properly and my god we were poor. I feel for the ones that paid to watch that!
We looked like a bunch of headless chickens. The only thing missing is the circus theme tune.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 21, 2014 19:43:14 GMT 1
Good grief! Some folk are getting so critical and their disappointment is affecting their vision. Smithies had no chance with the first - the deflection took it away from him when he was already diving to cover the original angle of the shot. Some 'supporters' need to shake their heads posting bile about Dean, CP and the players as they do. Yes we're going through a tough patch and it's not pretty or exciting to watch at the moment but slagging people at the club off will not help. Try supporting until Christmas and then let's see where we stand. When the going gets tough........ Thats exactly how it was. How anyone can think that it was only a slight deflection is beyond me, It changes the direction of the ball FFS and at that speed it doesn't have to be by far to leave the keeper with no chance. Some people haven't got the first clue or at least they lose all semblance of understanding of the game in their desperation to trot out the same old boring 'lets make smithies the scapegoat for every goal we concede' bollocks. You want to blame someone for that goal, try Lynch for cocking up his clearance in his usual too casual by half way. And the 2nd goal. Hows he supposed to save that? Would Murphy be able to be in 2 places at the same time like Smithies is supposed to be? He tries to get to the first shot and then they score the rebound off the bar. Its never even seen being the keepers fault, that goal. Its just a pathetic witch hunt now is this smithies shit. try supporting the lad. Its only a few days since he kept us in the game against Wigan and was our MOTM. these will be the same 'fans' who jeered and ridiculed Skarz until his confidence was completely shot even though he was barely a kid. Well there's another player who's doing really well at a club higher than us. It no surprise a lot of players have to leave our club to get their confidence up and to do well.
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Post by Stewpot on Sept 21, 2014 19:51:41 GMT 1
Let`s not over-react. Gordon Banks in his hey-day would have stood no chance with any of those superb efforts !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:57:24 GMT 1
I've got to hold my hands up and admit I thought Smithies made a knackers of the first yesterday, didn't even see the deflection off Hudson from my seat as the ball moved so quickly.
Slaps is right though, Lynch isn't getting half the criticism he deserves for that woeful play down in front of our fans.
There's been a massive over-reaction to the performance in my opinion, as fans we need to step back, re-group and get on with what we're supposed to do - supporting the team through thick and thin.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 21, 2014 20:13:56 GMT 1
I definitely think he should've done better with the third, but I'm undecided on the first. Either way, it's not as bad as was being made out.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 21, 2014 20:25:57 GMT 1
One win thats what we need , that will lift everyone at this great club and restore some pride and confidence. The players need to get down to some hard work this week come out and blitz Millwall and get the vital first goal that will get the crowd back , its up to the players
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Post by rocky on Sept 21, 2014 21:55:01 GMT 1
Thats exactly how it was. How anyone can think that it was only a slight deflection is beyond me, It changes the direction of the ball FFS and at that speed it doesn't have to be by far to leave the keeper with no chance. Some people haven't got the first clue or at least they lose all semblance of understanding of the game in their desperation to trot out the same old boring 'lets make smithies the scapegoat for every goal we concede' bollocks. You want to blame someone for that goal, try Lynch for cocking up his clearance in his usual too casual by half way. And the 2nd goal. Hows he supposed to save that? Would Murphy be able to be in 2 places at the same time like Smithies is supposed to be? He tries to get to the first shot and then they score the rebound off the bar. Its never even seen being the keepers fault, that goal. Its just a pathetic witch hunt now is this smithies shit. try supporting the lad. Its only a few days since he kept us in the game against Wigan and was our MOTM. these will be the same 'fans' who jeered and ridiculed Skarz until his confidence was completely shot even though he was barely a kid. Well there's another player who's doing really well at a club higher than us. It no surprise a lot of players have to leave our club to get their confidence up and to do well. I still maintain Smithies should have saved their first, but the real culprit was (as you say) Lynch. If he'd have done his job properly & let's face it, it wasn't a difficult job to do, then we wouldn't even been discussing Smithies. That goal handed Leeds a massive boost, knocked the stuffing out of Town & set the tone for the eventual outcome. I do agree that Smithies gets more than of his fair share of flak & seems to have taken over from Ward in that regard. For the record, I think he's adequate at this level, but no more & there are far, far more pressing issues in the team to address than the keeper.
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Post by Giggity on Sept 22, 2014 22:45:56 GMT 1
Might have done better with the 3rd but Im not really seeing how hes at fault for the other 2. Are we all ignoring the deflection off wallace for the first goal that took the shot past smithies?Not having that. If there was a significant deflection, the ball would have veered to the right hand side of the goal given the position of the ball when struck and Hudson (Wallace). The fact is Smithies would have saved it if he stayed where he was. God knows why he dived to that area when the ball was never travelling in that direction. Leeds fans at work think he is a closet Leeds fan. Never known a player to be so error prone when playing against one side.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 22, 2014 23:01:44 GMT 1
You need to watch it more closely. The shot is hit with real power and the deflection is only slight but enough to change the direction of the shot enough to fly past smithies before hes had time to react. If he had saved it , it would have been a superb reaction save. Don't like to get in the way of the usual smithies scapegoating but whether youre having it or not, thats what happened.
I would agree though, hes never exactly covered himself with glory against Leeds. Maybe being a local lad it means too much to him?
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Post by JerryG on Sept 23, 2014 8:32:32 GMT 1
I spent two hours with Leeds supporting mates after Saturdays match and they didn't bloat they just couldn't believe how poor we were compared to recent matches between us. Their immediate comments were mainly regarding how bad Smithies was/is and they questioned why we persevere with him. In truth he never seems to have a good match against Leeds Utd but that was poor even by his standards of late. I honestly don't know what to say about Saturdays match other than ask where was the determination, the team ethic and willingness to fight for the ball. We just seemed to sit back and let them throw what they liked at our defenders without any response other than passing the ball sideways. Anyway, it's another match gone and lose and clearly from somewhere we have to pick ourselves up and and move on! Bring on the Millwall
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Post by Torquayterrier on Sept 23, 2014 9:04:10 GMT 1
Though it seems clear from reports that Lynch had a lousy game all round I think he's still a bit unlucky with that first goal, 8 time sout of 10 that would have come off their player and out for our throw in, I think that's what Lynch was playing for. Even then it didn't come back out to Austin that quickly and our defenders should have had time to at least start closing him down, they seem slow to react and that looks like the story with the other goals too, defence still needs work but lets give the new coaching staff some time to sort it along with our lack of striking oprions which still needs addressing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 9:05:28 GMT 1
they all need a cattle prod up em. seriously they look half arsed.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 23, 2014 9:28:17 GMT 1
Though it seems clear from reports that Lynch had a lousy game all round I think he's still a bit unlucky with that first goal, 8 time sout of 10 that would have come off their player and out for our throw in, I think that's what Lynch was playing for. Even then it didn't come back out to Austin that quickly and our defenders should have had time to at least start closing him down, they seem slow to react and that looks like the story with the other goals too, defence still needs work but lets give the new coaching staff some time to sort it along with our lack of striking oprions which still needs addressing. That's not what the Lynch hate mob want to hear, although I must say anything that goes wrong invariably it involves Lynch. I also notice no one has mentioned that potentially Lynch might have been fouled for the second but again, don't let that get in the way of a reason to single Lynch out, although it wasn't his fault the second anyway, Coady was caught in possession and Butterfield missed his tackle.
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