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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 14:15:41 GMT 1
Never saw it that way myself. I don't just automatically support the English team because they're English.
Are Man City with their fielding 9 or 10 foreign players every match really 'representing English domestic football in general'?
Or are they moreso really just representing the Greedy league?
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Nov 26, 2014 14:17:52 GMT 1
If someones representing me, then i take pride in their success. Thats just being a sports fan isn't it. At club level town represent me obviously, but in europe any english club does as they aren't just representing themselves, they're representing english domestic football in general IMO. Do i want the club from the english league to win, or the one from the german league? English EVERY time. That's exactly the point I was making. Don't know why some others got so focused on Leeds. I wouldn't celebrate it like I would if it was Town but still happy the English team won. I'm sure it'd be the same for most people from other countries.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 26, 2014 14:19:30 GMT 1
They are representing Manchester City football club which is based in England. I was delighted when they won the greedy league as you put it. Greedy it may be but it is OUR club's ambition to get there... go figure!
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 26, 2014 14:28:36 GMT 1
Fair point that they're not an english 'team', but they are an english club and always will be. And as such they are representing our domestic league- all levels, not just the Prem. The best of our clubs against the best of other nations' clubs. Im not going to lose any sleep about it, but Ill always rather have them win than a foreign club.
Its not like the opposition they play are made up of the nationality of their particular country either. 2 englishmen started for City- Im not sure that many more Germans started for Munich. .
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 14:35:22 GMT 1
They are representing Manchester City football club which is based in England. And owned by a group of Arabs, managed by a Chilean, and their only starting English player when everyone is fit is the keeper. Forgive me for not bursting into a round of Land of Hope & Glory when Sergio Aguero hit the winner last night.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 14:41:20 GMT 1
Fair point that they're not an english 'team', but they are an english club and always will be. And as such they are representing our domestic league- all levels, not just the Prem. The best of our clubs against the best of other nations' clubs. Im not going to lose any sleep about it, but Ill always rather have them win than a foreign club. Its not like the opposition they play are made up of the nationality of their particular country either. 2 englishmen started for City- Im not sure that many more Germans started for Munich. . I thought 3 Englishmen started for Man C; Hart, Lampard and Milner but when everyone is fit only one of those starts. I wasn't 'supporting' Bayern because they were German. It's just two teams to me. And like you I wasn't going to lose sleep over the result.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 26, 2014 14:54:06 GMT 1
They are representing Manchester City football club which is based in England. And owned by a group of Arabs, managed by a Chilean, and their only starting English player when everyone is fit is the keeper. Forgive me for not bursting into a round of Land of Hope & Glory when Sergio Aguero hit the winner last night. Which is your perogative, but because their home games are played in Manchester, England, which is less than an hours drive from my place of birth. Forgive me if I choose to prefer them to win than a team from Munich, Germany when I am currently based 3500miles from that birthplace.
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Post by impact on Nov 26, 2014 14:57:51 GMT 1
That Aguero is rubbish, all he does is score goals, does nothing in the build up.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 15:04:35 GMT 1
Which is your perogative, but because their home games are played in Manchester, England, which is less than an hours drive from my place of birth. Forgive me if I choose to prefer them to win than a team from Munich, Germany when I am currently based 3500miles from that birthplace. All I'm saying is by that logic you'd want Leeds to beat, say, a superbly run club like Borussia Dortmund or Man 'Ure' to beat, say, Aberdeen. It's a strange logic to me but as you say it's your prerogative.
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Post by impact on Nov 26, 2014 15:13:18 GMT 1
Which is your perogative, but because their home games are played in Manchester, England, which is less than an hours drive from my place of birth. Forgive me if I choose to prefer them to win than a team from Munich, Germany when I am currently based 3500miles from that birthplace. All I'm saying is by that logic you'd want Leeds to beat, say, a superbly run club like Borussia Dortmund or Man 'Ure' to beat, say, Aberdeen. It's a strange logic to me but as you say it's your prerogative. I would always support the English team unless it's a local rival ie Bradford or Leeds. And with those 2 it's more to do with the reaction of their fans and your mates after. Did I support Leeds in the Champions League? No, because my Leeds supporting mates would have been unbearable if they'd won it, and probably still would be now. They still go on about the imaginary one they won more than 10 years after it happened.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 20:48:35 GMT 1
Liverpool 1 down already
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Nov 26, 2014 20:51:40 GMT 1
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 20:53:08 GMT 1
Shit 1-1
Another comedy of errors.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Nov 26, 2014 21:24:55 GMT 1
1-2
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 26, 2014 21:42:04 GMT 1
Think I might watch FBD's team Real Madrid second half, quality wasn't that great. I reckon Town have a better defence than Liverpool or Ludogoetz.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 23:22:15 GMT 1
Thing about being a football fan is that it generally breeds honesty. So on the (probably) 3 occasions I've bumped into Man C fans in the last 12 months in work situations (last time was 2d ago) I've had to let them know I'm a Town fan and that dark day under the very brief Supermac tenure. To be fair it's taken them a couple of milliseconds for the light bulb to switch on and the banter was fair enough... Football fans are pretty fickle and will always be so, the level of that fickleness will somewhat ironically be influenced by the last 5 yrs and key events in their club's history and hence you find the short termism attitudes that exist today... As much as they'll recall our 10-1 hiding they'll also struggle to recall the day they just overcome Gillingham with 2 very late goals and a penalty shoot out... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Football_League_Second_Division_play-off_FinalPerhaps it's my memory of the 10-1 that makes me recall what was almost a dark day in their history?
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Post by Marco4 on Nov 27, 2014 6:06:03 GMT 1
My experience with City fans is that they view that game against Gillingham as one of the most important in their history; indeed, I remember seeing a few interviewed after their first recent title, and them belittling that achievement on the strength of how important the Gillingham match was in getting them back on an upward trajectory and gaining some sort of momentum.
Horses for courses I suppose.
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