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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 30, 2014 18:28:09 GMT 1
we won't sign anyone good and we'll get relegated, my honest thoughts. O Your glass is quarter full imo.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 30, 2014 18:32:23 GMT 1
Straight swap stead for Hanson. Deal done
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Post by nisus on Dec 30, 2014 18:34:59 GMT 1
we won't sign anyone good and we'll get relegated, my honest thoughts. O Your glass is quarter full imo. had enough to be honest we're stuck in mud. why do we accept such mediocrity. don't we desewrve to be in the premier league? why do we matter less? we could be in the champions league and we should be. why not?
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Post by thrice on Dec 30, 2014 18:35:34 GMT 1
Where do folk get the impression that Hanson is poor from?
I've only seen him against higher opposition in their cup games but he looked like a right handful every time.
If Bradford fans loose their knickers like when we signed Wells (who he had a great partnership with) then all the better.
And he is a town fan to boot!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 30, 2014 18:38:57 GMT 1
O Your glass is quarter full imo. had enough to be honest we're stuck in mud. why do we accept such mediocrity. don't we desewrve to be in the premier league? why do we matter less? we could be in the champions league and we should be. why not? I really think the comment re champions league is unrealistic , nobody deserves to just get into the Prem , why do you think we just deserve to be ? We are trying to be a strong club in this league with some fallen Giants in it.
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Post by harris on Dec 30, 2014 18:44:37 GMT 1
Carlton Cole would be a much more ambitious signing than Hanson but if signing Hanson means we get rid of Stead then I'm happy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 18:45:06 GMT 1
I don't particularly want us to sign Hanson at all, but if it was a purely straight swap for Stead then I would take him.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 30, 2014 18:49:45 GMT 1
O Your glass is quarter full imo. had enough to be honest we're stuck in mud. why do we accept such mediocrity. don't we desewrve to be in the premier league? why do we matter less? we could be in the champions league and we should be. why not? A three post WUM...
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Post by htfc1908 on Dec 30, 2014 18:50:44 GMT 1
I know some Bradford fans are saying Stead is a better version of Hanson, make of that what you will. and if that is the case maybe we'll get some change
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 30, 2014 19:02:20 GMT 1
Somewhere between this thread and the mid season review I have the opinion that the squad we have right now is good enough to keep us up. Although we haven't set the world on fire, there were times of great anticipation and hope. So if you were controlling the budget would you spend money that is tight simply to gain one or two extra places in the league. I wouldn't. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if we made no transfer dealings in January whatsoever. Super intelligent DATM pundits can create the argument that the team needs strengthening in certain areas - but to achieve what? I think it would be better to see which players are moving out of contract at the end of the season, from both Town and other teams and give CP a better budget to start next season with after a decent pre season. We can go round the block many times on we need this and we need that but if you have insufficient funds to attract players better than those you already have there really is no point. We are looking to unload our deadwood next month, surely other teams are doing just the same.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 30, 2014 19:08:50 GMT 1
Somewhere between this thread and the mid season review I have the opinion that the squad we have right now is good enough to keep us up. Although we haven't set the world on fire, there were times of great anticipation and hope. So if you were controlling the budget would you spend money that is tight simply to gain one or two extra places in the league. I wouldn't. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if we made no transfer dealings in January whatsoever. Super intelligent DATM pundits can create the argument that the team needs strengthening in certain areas - but to achieve what? I think it would be better to see which players are moving out of contract at the end of the season, from both Town and other teams and give CP a better budget to start next season with after a decent pre season. We can go round the block many times on we need this and we need that but if you have insufficient funds to attract players better than those you already have there really is no point. We are looking to unload our deadwood next month, surely other teams are doing just the same. You make plenty of good points there, keitha1. In my opinion there will be quite a few outgoings, though it won't be easy, and most of them are likely to be loans. Chris Powell has been fairly open about bringing in new players in January, so I think it's certain that one or two, at least, will come in. Definitely more out than in though, for me.
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Post by kes on Dec 30, 2014 19:09:57 GMT 1
Bradford have no funds for transfers so if they keep Stead it will be free. Be interesting to see if anyone else wants him. As for Hanson - does look a real handful imo. all about money - can`t see any resale value in him tbo so he`d have to be fairly cheap.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 30, 2014 19:26:03 GMT 1
Somewhere between this thread and the mid season review I have the opinion that the squad we have right now is good enough to keep us up. Although we haven't set the world on fire, there were times of great anticipation and hope. So if you were controlling the budget would you spend money that is tight simply to gain one or two extra places in the league. I wouldn't. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if we made no transfer dealings in January whatsoever. Super intelligent DATM pundits can create the argument that the team needs strengthening in certain areas - but to achieve what? I think it would be better to see which players are moving out of contract at the end of the season, from both Town and other teams and give CP a better budget to start next season with after a decent pre season. We can go round the block many times on we need this and we need that but if you have insufficient funds to attract players better than those you already have there really is no point. We are looking to unload our deadwood next month, surely other teams are doing just the same. You make plenty of good points there, keitha1. In my opinion there will be quite a few outgoings, though it won't be easy, and most of them are likely to be loans. Chris Powell has been fairly open about bringing in new players in January, so I think it's certain that one or two, at least, will come in. Definitely more out than in though, for me. I think all new managers in every league talk about bringing in there own players. However when CP sees how much cash he is given to go shopping with he will realize that it may be better to make do with what he has. I think we will try and offload some players, but its never easy, there are a ton of teams also out there with very little money.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 30, 2014 19:27:59 GMT 1
You make plenty of good points there, keitha1. In my opinion there will be quite a few outgoings, though it won't be easy, and most of them are likely to be loans. Chris Powell has been fairly open about bringing in new players in January, so I think it's certain that one or two, at least, will come in. Definitely more out than in though, for me. I think all new managers in every league talk about bringing in there own players. However when CP sees how much cash he is given to go shopping with he will realize that it may be better to make do with what he has. I think we will try and offload some players, but its never easy, there are a ton of teams also out there with very little money. He will have known what funding he has since his interview/acceptance of the job.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 30, 2014 19:29:48 GMT 1
You could be right Gled, it might not be enough to buy jack shit though..
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 30, 2014 19:43:16 GMT 1
You could be right Gled, it might not be enough to buy jack shit though.. True enough. It's not an excuse for him though (not that I think he would use it as one)
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Post by patfield on Dec 30, 2014 20:23:26 GMT 1
If I'm not mistaken ,Powell said something along the lines of him wanting to strengthen in Jan, but other clubs would be too. Reading between the lines that may be we wont get anyone in. How many transfers have we made previously in Jan? What I don't want are panic buys and buying for the sake of it. Imo it may be more wise to get a couple of decent loans in until the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 20:51:18 GMT 1
I don't particularly want us to sign Hanson at all, but if it was a purely straight swap for Stead then I would take him. Agree. But if we could use Steads wage towards funding someone even better, then that would be money better spent, wouldn't it?
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Post by shawsie on Dec 30, 2014 21:38:32 GMT 1
Carlton Cole would be a much more ambitious signing than Hanson but if signing Hanson means we get rid of Stead then I'm happy Why?! Cole is 32 yrs old, injury prone, not prolific and doesn't strike me as a lad who wants to work his nads off to achieve something with a championship team having played his career with the likes of Chelsea and west ham! Hanson is 26, a decent footballer and target man with a proven partnership record with our best goal scorer. Plus he has a point to prove, will be significantly cheaper and loves our club......if the cost isn't massive and we can ship out stead and maybe another then get it done for me.
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Post by Giggity on Dec 31, 2014 1:54:28 GMT 1
What about Sam Gallagher from Southampton?
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Post by beadlesrighthand on Dec 31, 2014 8:36:06 GMT 1
Nicky Law from Rangers. In Daily Mail.
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Post by buckers on Dec 31, 2014 8:48:35 GMT 1
Hanson. Signed, sealed and ready for delivery in January. Been told that; suspect it's true. I'd worry if the best we can do is Hanson! That's also my gut feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 8:56:03 GMT 1
hanson in to help wells along.
I might also suggest ward out either in a swap deal or on loan. lots of powell players coming in maybe? lots of frees?
cutting loose a few. maybe one big money departure?
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Post by daveswithy1982 on Dec 31, 2014 9:04:20 GMT 1
Nicky law has looked good everytime I've seen him - he would be a bit similar to butterfield though - likes to beat a man and can play on the right side of midfield. I thought we would be after a striker and cb instead though. Law would be 500,000 ish so surely we must be selling someone if he is coming in
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 31, 2014 9:05:00 GMT 1
We are linked with Nicky Nickhudd Law from Rangers
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 31, 2014 9:43:25 GMT 1
Our midfield is the strongest part of the team why on earth would we tinker with it?
We urgently need a replacement for Holt (not too enthused by Hanson) and then another centre back (if Gerrard is frozen out) and that's just to get the squad rebalanced
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 31, 2014 9:48:21 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:10:28 GMT 1
Can't claim to know a huge amount about either Law or Hanson - other than seeing Bradford's cup run a couple of years ago, where he caused every team he played against problems. Hanson has certainly being playing at a higher level the last couple of years than Law. Assuming Hanson is cheap, both in terms of wages and fee and we can offload Stead on them, then I think his signing is a free hit. Not much lost if it doesn't work out and there's a decent chance he'll offer us something different and be a good foil for Wells again. No doubt they'll be some who claim his signing would lack ambition, whatever that means.
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 31, 2014 10:23:14 GMT 1
Surely it's best that Powell makes signings now to bolster the squad and push on this season for a strong finish. This in my opinion will generate momentumconfidence to take into pre season/new season and kick on from there a little bit like middlesborough did. The players will also have time to gel and get to know each other better
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Dec 31, 2014 10:38:50 GMT 1
Straight swap stead for Hanson. Deal done If this is the case then it's a good deal for us. We're getting rid of someone who we know can't play at this level, and taking on a younger striker who might just have what we're missing. If there's no transfer fee, or increase in wages, then it makes sense. However I'd be surprised if we didn't have to put some money their way to be honest...
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