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Post by joehappy on Jan 11, 2015 19:40:47 GMT 1
Been looking at megaphones. Buying a proper one would cost £40 delivered. Battery powered and 60 watt . From Germany on Ebay
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Post by Cole on Jan 11, 2015 20:38:40 GMT 1
We had one in our sights. We already bought one at the start of the season which was about 30W which we thought would do the trick but it was like a kids crappy one. I think the Watt rating means nothing. I wish there was a way to test before you buy.
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Post by joehappy on Jan 11, 2015 20:57:36 GMT 1
There doesn't seem to be a megaphone anywhere above 60 watt that's battery powered.
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Post by Cole on Jan 11, 2015 21:06:21 GMT 1
Think we need to try and constantly have the flags up for the Leeds game. Been looking at quite a few videos and you wouldn't even know we had flags. Would it be worth reminding people on social media to get waveing?
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2015 21:08:28 GMT 1
There doesn't seem to be a megaphone anywhere above 60 watt that's battery powered. I back the nsl 100per cent,as a lot of them could tell you but please no megaphone, it really is tinpot. Use your lungs...i go in regular but will never go in with a megaphone in there.. Just my opinion.
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Post by joehappy on Jan 11, 2015 21:42:09 GMT 1
There doesn't seem to be a megaphone anywhere above 60 watt that's battery powered. I back the nsl 100per cent,as a lot of them could tell you but please no megaphone, it really is tinpot. Use your lungs...i go in regular but will never go in with a megaphone in there.. Just my opinion. I would hate to hear someone using a megaphone all the game myself but we need more organisation before and occasionally during the game. Do you have any suggestions?
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2015 22:37:59 GMT 1
I back the nsl 100per cent,as a lot of them could tell you but please no megaphone, it really is tinpot. Use your lungs...i go in regular but will never go in with a megaphone in there.. Just my opinion. I would hate to hear someone using a megaphone all the game myself but we need more organisation before and occasionally during the game. Do you have any suggestions? Mate in my experience... First game 79... If the team are playing well, or its a big game,there isn't any need to organise it,it would be spontaneous, the problem with the nsl at the moment is numbers, once it gets full,and it will,it will generate plenty of noise and atmosphere, it won't every game, no ground does, ive stood on a deathly quiet kop on euro nights,point being it will happen naturally but at the moment its new to a whole generation of fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 23:07:07 GMT 1
I would hate to hear someone using a megaphone all the game myself but we need more organisation before and occasionally during the game. Do you have any suggestions? Mate in my experience... First game 79... If the team are playing well, or its a big game,there isn't any need to organise it,it would be spontaneous, the problem with the nsl at the moment is numbers, once it gets full,and it will,it will generate plenty of noise and atmosphere, it won't every game, no ground does, ive stood on a deathly quiet kop on euro nights,point being it will happen naturally but at the moment its new to a whole generation of fans. I don't think a megaphone will carry over the general crowd noise myself, I've seen a few vids from Europe where they have speakers all across the front of the stand and a capo miked up. You can't hear the mega expensive PA system at the best of times in most areas of the ground anyway. It's just a matter of time, fans need to get used to what we are trying to do, when to sing what etc. It takes time and effort.
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Post by joehappy on Jan 12, 2015 0:00:17 GMT 1
I would hate to hear someone using a megaphone all the game myself but we need more organisation before and occasionally during the game. Do you have any suggestions? Mate in my experience... First game 79... If the team are playing well, or its a big game,there isn't any need to organise it,it would be spontaneous, the problem with the nsl at the moment is numbers, once it gets full,and it will,it will generate plenty of noise and atmosphere, it won't every game, no ground does, ive stood on a deathly quiet kop on euro nights,point being it will happen naturally but at the moment its new to a whole generation of fans. in my experience (1st game 1969) times have changed. I too have been in The Kop, The Cowshed, Milan , Genoa, Germany etc. I'm on your side! and can't wait til the NSL is full and bouncing too. Sooner the better!
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Post by thrice on Jan 12, 2015 0:09:43 GMT 1
I think pozza is being capo down the front again. If anyone can get there hands on a megaphone for this game it would be superb as ben says, steal one from work or something. Have you not still got the one from that cracker? There are sure to be a few birthday boys & girls in attendance too.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Jan 12, 2015 14:12:47 GMT 1
Megaphones are hardly tinpot, used all over the continent and by the most successful fan groups in the UK! I'll post this again: wee lad with a megaphone conducting the Green Brigade . If he can do it, so can we (and by we I mean Ginger Ogre)!
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Post by Sio on Jan 12, 2015 14:19:00 GMT 1
I went to Dortmund the other week and I could easily hear their megaphone in their south stand (opposite end of the ground), and it worked well for coordinating their songs. That said, they've got 25000 people to coordinate, not 400
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Post by Cole on Jan 12, 2015 15:01:47 GMT 1
If we order a megaphone that's designed specifically for fire drills etc it should be loud. It's the crappy ones that don't travel far. Ultras shop sell them, they must be decent? Do we really need one though?
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Post by terrierng on Jan 12, 2015 15:12:00 GMT 1
Megaphones are hardly tinpot, used all over the continent and by the most successful fan groups in the UK! I'll post this again: wee lad with a megaphone conducting the Green Brigade . If he can do it, so can we (and by we I mean Ginger Ogre)! Like i say its my opinion regarding the megaphone, good luck if you do it but I there will be five from my group who wont go in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 3:30:49 GMT 1
I think there are times when coordination is not necessary or appropriate because a great atmosphere works without, e.g. play off Bournemouth and on Sky Millwall at home. There are also times when it can really help, a few types of examples 1) When atmosphere or game is a bit flat or crowd a bit thin and encouragement to spread support would help, don't need an example as quite common. 2) When opposition noise drowns out or disrupts our attempts, e.g. play off Millwall away or loud visiting support. 3) When singers too widely dispersed for songs to travel, e.g. new or unfamiliar songs and larger numbers of occasional singers this can occur anywhere in the ground but also at big events like Arsenal away and Old Trafford final. Some don't like the megaphone idea, like some don't like drumming, but I think it could work if not used too much to put those off. Another idea would be to have standard songs for particular stages in a match so we knew what to join in with even when we did not hear it too well. Easy examples would be for all our corners a chant of Huddersfield-Huddersfield. Or for opposition goal kicks oooOOOH You Shit/fat Bastard. We could have some for our and oppo kick-offs, free kicks from particular areas, throw-ins, tackles, wing attacks, extended possession (not my favourite) particular players good efforts, particular times in match etc. All of which will help learning the patterns as we use/list on DATM, which will help atmosphere while reducing need for megaphone or drummer. Non of this prevents the spontaneous, which we would all prefer, like after a goal or those great atmosphere matches or moments that don't need anything other than reaction. We might not need this for the L**ds match, but there are many that I think it could work for. Let's start with ideas for what to sing when, then list in a stickied thread and see how it goes.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 13, 2015 19:43:11 GMT 1
I think there are times when coordination is not necessary or appropriate because a great atmosphere works without, e.g. play off Bournemouth and on Sky Millwall at home. There are also times when it can really help, a few types of examples 1) When atmosphere or game is a bit flat or crowd a bit thin and encouragement to spread support would help, don't need an example as quite common. 2) When opposition noise drowns out or disrupts our attempts, e.g. play off Millwall away or loud visiting support. 3) When singers too widely dispersed for songs to travel, e.g. new or unfamiliar songs and larger numbers of occasional singers this can occur anywhere in the ground but also at big events like Arsenal away and Old Trafford final. Some don't like the megaphone idea, like some don't like drumming, but I think it could work if not used too much to put those off. Another idea would be to have standard songs for particular stages in a match so we knew what to join in with even when we did not hear it too well. Easy examples would be for all our corners a chant of Huddersfield-Huddersfield. Or for opposition goal kicks oooOOOH You Shit/fat Bastard. We could have some for our and oppo kick-offs, free kicks from particular areas, throw-ins, tackles, wing attacks, extended possession (not my favourite) particular players good efforts, particular times in match etc. All of which will help learning the patterns as we use/list on DATM, which will help atmosphere while reducing need for megaphone or drummer. Non of this prevents the spontaneous, which we would all prefer, like after a goal or those great atmosphere matches or moments that don't need anything other than reaction. We might not need this for the L**ds match, but there are many that I think it could work for. Let's start with ideas for what to sing when, then list in a stickied thread and see how it goes. Singing songs at certain times if that ever happened i think its time i stopped going,whats happening to football?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 20:04:17 GMT 1
If you consider my two examples, that is what sometimes happens now and definitely happened a lot in the Cowshed 60s & 70s. Why the negative approach? If some don't want drumming, don't want megaphone, don't want choreography, Oh and don't want GUAH next. Some don't want to watch football in a morgue & this is a suggestion to try move away from that being the tedious result of no such efforts! It does not stop the spontaneous, it just kicks of an atmosphere a bit like people asking for Smile A While at kick-offs.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 13, 2015 20:43:47 GMT 1
If you consider my two examples, that is what sometimes happens now and definitely happened a lot in the Cowshed 60s & 70s. Why the negative approach? If some don't want drumming, don't want megaphone, don't want choreography, Oh and don't want GUAH next. Some don't want to watch football in a morgue & this is a suggestion to try move away from that being the tedious result of no such efforts! It does not stop the spontaneous, it just kicks of an atmosphere a bit like people asking for Smile A While at kick-offs. Look imo if the nsl was full every game you wouldn't need a drum, megaphone or songs sung for free kicks or corners, its fake manufactured and down right tinpot, thats not negative its a fact,i havnt a downer on the nsl at all, im friends with graham ben.pozza scoffa digwon,russ plus plenty more,what it needs is numbers, 1000 fans singing wont need a megaphone, a roof or anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 21:08:41 GMT 1
Look, imo if there was 1000 in nsl we would not be having an improve the atmosphere discussion. So your point is negative and it does not matter who you know if all you do is knock suggestions to make progressive improvements to the atmosphere. If your only suggestion is to get 1000 in there, then fine, you make it happen and I will applaud you for it. If you can only call 'efforts' to create an atmosphere tinpot then why would you ever have a beer or even applaud a goal, you have a tinpot attitude imo!
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Post by terrierng on Jan 13, 2015 21:10:53 GMT 1
Look, imo if there was 1000 in nsl we would not be having an improve the atmosphere discussion. So your point is negative and it does not matter who you know if all you do is knock suggestions to make progressive improvements to the atmosphere. If your only suggestion is to get 1000 in there, then fine, you make it happen and I will applaud you for it. If you can only call 'efforts' to create an atmosphere tinpot then why would you ever have a beer or even applaud a goal, you have a tinpot attitude imo! Fair enough fuck the nsl and all in it,is that negative enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 21:17:52 GMT 1
No more or less than expected.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 13, 2015 21:21:40 GMT 1
No more or less than expected. ;D
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Post by benmsmith4 on Jan 13, 2015 22:17:05 GMT 1
From my experience megaphones are used less for starting songs and more for coordination eg call and response chants, jumping, lateral movement, clapping, waving, choreo etc.
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Post by thrice on Jan 13, 2015 22:44:37 GMT 1
From my experience megaphones are used less for starting songs and more for coordination eg call and response chants, jumping, lateral movement, clapping, waving, choreo etc. That sounds too strenuous! Can we have clappers again?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 22:51:22 GMT 1
Exactly Ben, just where it helps, no more is required or desired, whether that be megaphone, drumming or the coordinated singing I suggested.
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Post by Boothys Knees on Jan 14, 2015 14:50:16 GMT 1
Any news yet on season card transfers? Still available on the day as usual?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 14:54:35 GMT 1
Any news yet on season card transfers? Still available on the day as usual? Nothing confirmed yet, but it may be necessary to transfer before the day due to anticipated increased demand.
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Post by Boothys Knees on Jan 14, 2015 14:58:21 GMT 1
Nothing confirmed yet, but it may be necessary to transfer before the day due to anticipated increased demand. Thanks for the update.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 15:38:32 GMT 1
I suspect the club will wait till very late to confirm this when they know roughly how many tickets have been sold.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 14, 2015 16:21:27 GMT 1
I suspect the club will wait till very late to confirm this when they know roughly how many tickets have been sold. 500;)
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