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Post by corky69 on Jan 31, 2015 19:11:29 GMT 1
1000+ in nsl, 1000+ in Kilner, a few hundred in the direct golf lower and plenty scattered around the club. All these fans would go in the south stand if we had it and make a racket. Surely that's enough demand?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:25:19 GMT 1
be great to get the south stand but i doubt very much if all them extra that turned up today would do so every home game we had ,and doubt very much if it would ever get full .we trialled it before and it fell flat on its face
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Post by Sio on Jan 31, 2015 19:28:46 GMT 1
1000+ in nsl, 1000+ in Kilner, a few hundred in the direct golf lower and plenty scattered around the club. All these fans would go in the south stand if we had it and make a racket. Surely that's enough demand? Slow and steady steps. The NSL has been about raising awareness of our desire for a home end, and the club are watching. |
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Post by Cole on Jan 31, 2015 19:32:33 GMT 1
It will come. I bet you any cash though, the lads in the kilner won't move into the SS, even if the away fans go in the south kilner and the Kilner lads can be just a close to the away fans.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Jan 31, 2015 20:25:52 GMT 1
It's not going to happen until we consistently get crowds like we did today, which ain't going to happen. It's all about revenue, from the clubs perspective there's no point putting a couple hundred town fans in their when club can rake it in when likes of Boro Bolton Leeds bring 4000.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:30:35 GMT 1
We all have to keep working hard to improving the NSL, once that's done we can have the south stand discussion with the club. Until then we need to channel our efforts into making the NS the best we possibly can.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Feb 1, 2015 9:02:22 GMT 1
The more we get in the NSL, the more chance we have of getting the South Stan.
It really is that simple.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 14, 2015 11:40:09 GMT 1
1000+ in nsl, 1000+ in Kilner, a few hundred in the direct golf lower and plenty scattered around the club. All these fans would go in the south stand if we had it and make a racket. Surely that's enough demand? no they wont,they never have before |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 11:41:14 GMT 1
Get in the north stand and prove you want the south stand. It's the only way.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 14, 2015 11:48:13 GMT 1
Get in the north stand and prove you want the south stand. It's the only way. tbh ben,everyone needs to forget the ss bollocks,we wont fill it,never had before when we had the chance,the club need the revenue it brings,the view may be a little better but not much,my view from the upper nsl pisses all over it,the facilities are shit,the nsl is bad enough for a few hundred,imagine the ss with a few thousand,imo,and its only mine the nsl should concentrate on filling it then they should lobbey for safe standing behind that goal,no chance of getting the ss under the current safety team,reasons are a joke ,but still no chance and like I posted earlier ,its shit anyway. |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Feb 17, 2015 10:23:43 GMT 1
We should have the ss v Leeds, Weds, etc, Mind you I would be giving them the Kilner,And All of it, raking in as much brass as possible, Whenever feasible, Am sure, Kilner bankers would be happy to swap seats for two or three occasions a season in order to maximise our revenue streams, Empty seats earn nothing. No fucking way. The Kilner bank is a true home end. You don't piss off the majority. Big or entertaining games always a decent atmosphere. The NSL would be better locating to the Riverside South Upper tier with a pricing initiative. This would natually filter down to the lower tier & across to the Kilner bank. The North stand upper & lower should be family offers & £100 max per season ticket. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 11:14:13 GMT 1
We should have the ss v Leeds, Weds, etc, Mind you I would be giving them the Kilner,And All of it, raking in as much brass as possible, Whenever feasible, Am sure, Kilner bankers would be happy to swap seats for two or three occasions a season in order to maximise our revenue streams, Empty seats earn nothing. No fucking way. The Kilner bank is a true home end. You don't piss off the majority. Big or entertaining games always a decent atmosphere. The NSL would be better locating to the Riverside South Upper tier with a pricing initiative. This would natually filter down to the lower tier & across to the Kilner bank. The North stand upper & lower should be family offers & £100 max per season ticket. Sounds good |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 11:47:09 GMT 1
We should have the ss v Leeds, Weds, etc, Mind you I would be giving them the Kilner,And All of it, raking in as much brass as possible, Whenever feasible, Am sure, Kilner bankers would be happy to swap seats for two or three occasions a season in order to maximise our revenue streams, Empty seats earn nothing. No fucking way. The Kilner bank is a true home end. You don't piss off the majority. Big or entertaining games always a decent atmosphere. The NSL would be better locating to the Riverside South Upper tier with a pricing initiative. This would natually filter down to the lower tier & across to the Kilner bank. The North stand upper & lower should be family offers & £100 max per season ticket. How can a home end be at the side? The main stand prices are around £400 as well. The whole stand would need a price reduction to accommodate the NSL in that case. |
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Post by detox on Feb 17, 2015 13:02:47 GMT 1
The only way we'd ever get the south stand is if the club thought there was a profit to be had in doing it... At the moment we have 2 or 3 clubs max that fill the away end with 4,000 fans...but if (ever ) we got into the premier league we might find that become 10 to 12 clubs...and even then we could sell more away tickets if we had capacity. So the 7,000 capacity of the Kilner bank stand might be viewed as an attractive away fans stand by the club...as it's unlikely we would fill our current home capacity of 20,000 but we might sell 17,000 season cards..money in the bank before a ball is kicked then some top dollar when man Utd,man city, liverpool, everton, arsenal,newcastle, chelsea, spurs, west ham, sunderland bring 7000 fans to town... ..maybe ?
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Post by detox on Feb 19, 2015 15:06:28 GMT 1
Maybe indeed, Empty seats are worthless, Get the ground filled to capacity and get as much brass in as possible. Not while Nigel Clibbens thinks match attendances and pricing is inelastic...9000 sc holders getting a decent enough deal, but the other 11,000 seats are priced out of most peoples pockets, hence only about 3000 people buy them....and the other 8,000 remain unoccupied... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 17:48:22 GMT 1
Maybe indeed, Empty seats are worthless, Get the ground filled to capacity and get as much brass in as possible. Not while Nigel Clibbens thinks match attendances and pricing is inelastic...9000 sc holders getting a decent enough deal, but the other 11,000 seats are priced out of most peoples pockets, hence only about 3000 people buy them....and the other 8,000 remain unoccupied... Its the same old problem, how cheap do you make walk up prices without affecting season card sales? |
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Post by detox on Feb 20, 2015 3:40:27 GMT 1
Not while Nigel Clibbens thinks match attendances and pricing is inelastic...9000 sc holders getting a decent enough deal, but the other 11,000 seats are priced out of most peoples pockets, hence only about 3000 people buy them....and the other 8,000 remain unoccupied... Its the same old problem, how cheap do you make walk up prices without affecting season card sales? Quite true...the SC renewal in the Kilner Bank stand offers a 38% discount on gate (Cat B) prices...that's quite a lot when you consider the argument that 'well we pay up front' doesn't apply now with the option of an interest free 10 month repayment period. The SC 'renewals' are cheaper than first time buyers of a SC too, by £15, which also seems odd to me. Using the Kilner Bank stand as an example, the SC holders pays £16 a game and the casual fans pay a whopping £26..That's a saving of £10 per game, or if you like that's 9 'free' games. In addition SC holders get priority ticket purchasing. If gate prices were fixed at £20 a game and a SC purchaser enjoyed a discount of say 20%, then the SC holder would still be paying £16 a game. I can't see SC holders objecting to that. can you ? Yes it's now 5 free games and not 9 but so what if it meant we got more casual fans down to the ground . There's only around 3,000 casual fans turn up at the moment, and I'd guess half of those are concession prices...so in my reckoning we'd only need to attract another 1,000 extra fans to make it break even (half adult,half concession). No more silly match categories, and a straight forward £20 to get in. I don't expect Town to have the gumption to do anything radical like this, and besides next seasons Season Cards and match day prices have already been settled as the SC offer is due out in a couple of weeks for the 2015/16 season....another thing that annoys me when there are still some 15 games to be played in this chuffing season ! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 4:19:55 GMT 1
1000+ in nsl, 1000+ in Kilner, a few hundred in the direct golf lower and plenty scattered around the club. All these fans would go in the south stand if we had it and make a racket. Surely that's enough demand? Unfortunately that's not what happenstance when it was tried before. |
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Post by terrierng on Feb 21, 2015 8:37:42 GMT 1
Not while Nigel Clibbens thinks match attendances and pricing is inelastic...9000 sc holders getting a decent enough deal, but the other 11,000 seats are priced out of most peoples pockets, hence only about 3000 people buy them....and the other 8,000 remain unoccupied... Its the same old problem, how cheap do you make walk up prices without affecting season card sales? Stop doing category pricing,make it a straight 23 quid on the gate,freeze sc prices and carry on with the school offers  ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 23:55:29 GMT 1
The only way we will fill anything(south stand) is if we play Man u,Liverpool,Chelsea,Arsenal,Man City,Newcastle,ect,,,,,then what do we do with thousands of away fans? Stick them up our arses? We need to be pushing for promotion or in the prem to even come close to filling that stand,were not a big club
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Post by Derby Blue on Feb 22, 2015 0:17:27 GMT 1
One thing's for sure though, a half empty south stand is a hell of a lot louder than a half empty north stand...
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Post by Cole on Feb 22, 2015 21:58:39 GMT 1
The only way we will fill anything(south stand) is if we play Man u,Liverpool,Chelsea,Arsenal,Man City,Newcastle,ect,,,,,then what do we do with thousands of away fans? Stick them up our arses? We need to be pushing for promotion or in the prem to even come close to filling that stand,were not a big club Stick em in the Kilner bank. Cash in. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Feb 24, 2015 15:04:22 GMT 1
£15 on the gate.
£250 for a ST.
Job done.
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