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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 19:00:16 GMT 1
Poor performance. Having Edgar ahead of Smith made our defence even more slow and cumbersome. None of the back three that started can come out of the game with their head held high. The front two fed off scraps and direct balls. Miller should've scored in the first half but my god he's poor in the air for a big lad. Powell was too slow going 4-4-2 as both wing-backs were outnumbered. Again questions of his tactics can be made. Overall a disappointing day, now to sup the night away  |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Feb 28, 2015 19:14:06 GMT 1
We arent allowed to questions powells tactics or decisions though are we, or we end up getting accused of only coming on here when we lose and that we criticise everything. Which is a load of balls. If he makes mistakes then he deserves to be questioned and criticised and the same goes for if we win he should get the praise.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 28, 2015 19:21:39 GMT 1
Disappointing but not surprising, consistency is eluding us, as it is practically every team in this league, but I'm not too fussed what everyone else does.
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Post by bristolterrier on Feb 28, 2015 19:37:26 GMT 1
A great day out spoiled by the football.Grub in Borough Market superb.Excellent ale at London Bridge.Superb Town support
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Post by nuneatonterrierdan on Feb 28, 2015 19:40:52 GMT 1
Don't question anything, I'm at euston station waiting for train home but yeh we played crap today the away support was top roll on next sat and then 2wks today we have Brum which is 3 points!!!!
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 28, 2015 19:51:49 GMT 1
We arent allowed to questions powells tactics or decisions though are we, or we end up getting accused of only coming on here when we lose and that we criticise everything. Which is a load of balls. If he makes mistakes then he deserves to be questioned and criticised and the same goes for if we win he should get the praise. You didn't make a post after the Reading game whys that |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Feb 28, 2015 20:01:10 GMT 1
We arent allowed to questions powells tactics or decisions though are we, or we end up getting accused of only coming on here when we lose and that we criticise everything. Which is a load of balls. If he makes mistakes then he deserves to be questioned and criticised and the same goes for if we win he should get the praise. You didn't make a post after the Reading game whys that Because i was working. But your reply proves my point. Ive have said previously i like powell and praised him at points but i have criticised some of his choices aswel as i feel his mistakes have cost us games. why do people seem to think that is being so negative? People criticise players on here all the time, why is powell any different? If he has a bad game and makes strange decisions, why cant people analyse that and discuss it? |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 28, 2015 20:06:47 GMT 1
You didn't make a post after the Reading game whys that . But your reply proves my point. Ive have said previously i like powell and praised him at points but i have criticised some of his choices aswel as i feel his mistakes have cost us games. why do people seem to think that is being so negative? People criticise players on here all the time, why is powell any different? If he has a bad game and makes strange decisions, why cant people analyse that and discuss it? Working from Tuesday to Saturday nonstop you hero  |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Feb 28, 2015 20:16:56 GMT 1
Eh? This is exactly what im talking about and youve just proved my point twice. I dont often come on here unless im sat doing nothing hence why im on here now on a saturday. Im not going to just randomly come on and search through to find the reading thread and post well done powell four days later, because that would just be weird. I was sat listening to the game today and the thread was there so ive posted, ive even said in that thread how powell deserves praise when we do well! This is why i dont post half the time even though ive been coming on here for years, because you end up with strange responses like yours.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 28, 2015 20:24:46 GMT 1
someone will tell you he picked an attacking formation today.. some will try and tell you it was a more attacking formation than Reading..
I will tell you it does not matter what players he selects and what formation everyone considers it to be.. this lot either perform or they don't.. 3rd manager running who hasn't really got any great control over what the 11 starters actually do..
they have 'done enough' over the last few games and have 'achieved' safety.. a win last Tuesday allows a slacking off period and hopefully the results of those in the bottom 3 allow us to just meander with the odd performance to the end of another 'nowhere much' season..
Brentford, who knows what will happen, powell certainly does not..
doing just enough, should replace the club motto..
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Post by ACW on Feb 28, 2015 20:35:56 GMT 1
Poor performance. Having Edgar ahead of Smith made our defence even more slow and cumbersome. None of the back three that started can come out of the game with their head held high. The front two fed off scraps and direct balls. Miller should've scored in the first half but my god he's poor in the air for a big lad. Powell was too slow going 4-4-2 as both wing-backs were outnumbered. Again questions of his tactics can be made. Overall a disappointing day, now to sup the night away Disappointed to hear we played more long ball stuff. I like Powell in general but we play far too much direct football for my liking. Obviously we need to mix things up occasionally but IMO we are too ready to knock the ball long, particularly from the back. Hopefully we can play a bit more at Brentford. |
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Post by brickthespecial on Feb 28, 2015 21:28:40 GMT 1
totally agree with t26 Edgar was poor their left sided 2 tied him in knots cutting in, gave away the needless foul tracking across the box, they curled a free kick in from - slight questions to the wall being set too early, that came back 2 more steps when the shaving foam came out, Smithies perhaps too far to his right for a left foot curler, was right behind it - let's move on.
Miller,yes very cumbersome for a big lump, jumps with his feet planted firmly on the floor, thought Robinson had one his poorer games and Charlton on a few first half chances cut us open with lightening speed which with Huddy and Wallace, we're never going to be great against.
Butterfield forever trying to make it happen but Scanz was totally marked out the game 2nd period especially when he switched after Lolley came on. Personally I'd have taken off a wide man and thrown Coady on with Hogg to try gain control of the midfield, after that it was game over, they strolled around.
Still at 2-0 we had chances, Miller stabbed wide cos he's only got a left foot, their keeper smartly pushed away Wallaces shot then we concede a 3rd as we backed off and off - still the 2000 sang on right up into the late 80's mins before the exodus started.
I'm not getting too upset, it seems the way of this division, anyone can turnover anyone, just dusting myself down to go again Tuesday to West London.
Was wondering if we did a £5 match how many extra bum on seats we'd get I dont think another 10,000 like they did - 8,000 of which needed reminding Charlton were the team in red & white.
Once again superb travelling support, numbers and volume and its just the footy sometimes spoils a great day out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 21:50:39 GMT 1
someone will tell you he picked an attacking formation today.. some will try and tell you it was a more attacking formation than Reading.. I will tell you it does not matter what players he selects and what formation everyone considers it to be.. this lot either perform or they don't.. 3rd manager running who hasn't really got any great control over what the 11 starters actually do.. they have 'done enough' over the last few games and have 'achieved' safety.. a win last Tuesday allows a slacking off period and hopefully the results of those in the bottom 3 allow us to just meander with the odd performance to the end of another 'nowhere much' season.. Brentford, who knows what will happen, powell certainly does not.. doing just enough, should replace the club motto.. If football was played against 11 robots programmed identically week after week & we're inconsistent then folk would have a point to argue. However we don't, there's another 11 trying to stifle us... Not suggesting they don't have the occasional off day collectively but I don't think professional sports people go out with a comfort zone attitude because if they did they'd get rolled over by a hatful every time... As for Powell not knowing what will happen Tues - I'd be amazed if anyone on the planet does... We can all guess and criticise, but before the event? |
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Post by brickthespecial on Feb 28, 2015 21:57:16 GMT 1
2151 the official Charlton site match reports confirms
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Post by upthetown on Feb 28, 2015 22:13:26 GMT 1
2151 the official Charlton site match reports confirms No wonder we lost playing that formation! |
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Post by y2troy on Mar 1, 2015 0:29:06 GMT 1
Another step back again today and we go again in midweek.. I think powell will get it right i just dont think he has much trust in the squad he has ,i may be wrong on that but when need someone to change a game need a special player, but on the other hand when your a goal or 2 down why not throw a youngster on for experience.
Wouldnt suprise me if we turned up at Brentford midweek
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 1, 2015 1:41:32 GMT 1
Overall we gave them far too much time and space today. Even when we got players back we looked outnumbered.
Robinson and Edgar were both poor I thought. Robinson in particular.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 7:34:35 GMT 1
From 3,000 miles away it seems as though the last three performances were actually pretty similar, it was more the opposition that influenced the end result - Cardiff were dour and poor, Reading made 6 changes in preparation for the FA cup match and were totally disorganised, Charlton are on a bit of a run and were really up for their biggest game of the season
All that we've really learned is that we're a mid-table Championship side.
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Post by Tez on Mar 1, 2015 9:56:21 GMT 1
From 3,000 miles away it seems as though the last three performances were actually pretty similar, it was more the opposition that influenced the end result - Cardiff were dour and poor, Reading made 6 changes in preparation for the FA cup match and were totally disorganised, Charlton are on a bit of a run and were really up for their biggest game of the season All that we've really learned is that we're a mid-table Championship side. ...that's the aim.. To be a mid table champ side beating the 17th finish we achieved last season. DH's words |
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Post by bedders on Mar 1, 2015 10:40:00 GMT 1
Eh? This is exactly what im talking about and youve just proved my point twice. I dont often come on here unless im sat doing nothing hence why im on here now on a saturday. Im not going to just randomly come on and search through to find the reading thread and post well done powell four days later, because that would just be weird. I was sat listening to the game today and the thread was there so ive posted, ive even said in that thread how powell deserves praise when we do well! This is why i dont post half the time even though ive been coming on here for years, because you end up with strange responses like yours. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 1, 2015 10:52:33 GMT 1
We arent allowed to questions powells tactics or decisions though are we, or we end up getting accused of only coming on here when we lose and that we criticise everything. Which is a load of balls. If he makes mistakes then he deserves to be questioned and criticised and the same goes for if we win he should get the praise. You sound quite reasonable with your final sentence, so I can't believe you open with such drivel. Can't people get it in their head that that virtually no one has an issue with constructive criticism. I'm sure Ted who started the thread after Tuesday will himself have issues with certain tactics and players yesterday. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 1, 2015 12:22:11 GMT 1
One day we will have a team that are as good as towns amazing fans. Shame though that the same 2,000 + town fans at Charlton could not make the same amount of non stop banging noise that the 16,000 town fans failed to do at home to Leeds. Powell should be looking to use the rest of the season in a positive way as to build a team ready for next season , but town will never move onwards and upwards with such inconsistency in defence . We all know the "quality " town players that have proven that they are as good as any in this division , and those are the only players that Powell needs to be built around if he is thinking of putting in a challenge next season. Surely the quality coming through from the youth squad cannot be any worse than certain defenders on display at Charlton , and what a perfect opportunity to give them the experience which would be a vital for next season . |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 1, 2015 13:30:18 GMT 1
We arent allowed to questions powells tactics or decisions though are we, or we end up getting accused of only coming on here when we lose and that we criticise everything. Which is a load of balls. If he makes mistakes then he deserves to be questioned and criticised and the same goes for if we win he should get the praise. You sound quite reasonable with your final sentence, so I can't believe you open with such drivel. Can't people get it in their head that that virtually no one has an issue with constructive criticism. I'm sure Ted who started the thread after Tuesday will himself have issues with certain tactics and players yesterday. What I said was slightly tongue in cheek. But you have to admit people do have an issue with constructive criticism as it just gets slated all the time as being negative. It's the same the other way though. After the cup game against reading I got criticised for being postive when there was nothing to be positive about apparently!! It just annoys me how a large group of people on here don't seem to be able to accept people having an opinion different to there's and seem to take criticism of Powell or other people to heart like it's criticising them! |
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Post by deo1 on Mar 1, 2015 14:08:54 GMT 1
The biggest weakness in our team is the full backs. Sort this out and we've got a very competitive and consistent team on our hands.
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 1, 2015 14:34:04 GMT 1
The biggest weakness in our team is the full backs. Sort this out and we've got a very competitive and consistent team on our hands. Robinson is arguably the best full back we've had since Vincent and Smith isn't too shoddy and should get better with experience imo. Did you mean centre backs? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 1, 2015 15:07:55 GMT 1
You sound quite reasonable with your final sentence, so I can't believe you open with such drivel. Can't people get it in their head that that virtually no one has an issue with constructive criticism. I'm sure Ted who started the thread after Tuesday will himself have issues with certain tactics and players yesterday. What I said was slightly tongue in cheek. But you have to admit people do have an issue with constructive criticism as it just gets slated all the time as being negative. It's the same the other way though. After the cup game against reading I got criticised for being postive when there was nothing to be positive about apparently!! It just annoys me how a large group of people on here don't seem to be able to accept people having an opinion different to there's and seem to take criticism of Powell or other people to heart like it's criticising them! Fair enough, but I genuinely think it's a misconception, which doesn't help with the amount of nonsense to filter through. |
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 1, 2015 15:35:07 GMT 1
before i get shot down didn't go yeterday due to work but go to all home and a good few away games however from reading comments on here and else where this is my view of things
im not sure why he changed the team yes vaughan had to come in due to wells injury but that should have been the only change.
the problem we have is scannell as he has argubaly been our best player but does not fit into the 352 type system powell is trying to install and which i think he prefers.
the only place is behind the front 2 like bunn played tuesday a free role, playing him as a wingback type is no good to anyone leaves us vulnerable at the back and takes away his effectivness going forward.
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Post by Tez on Mar 1, 2015 15:42:19 GMT 1
Totally agree in Scanz not being able to get forward and can't defend... It happened vs Cardiff too. We're limiting ourselves playing players out of position
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 22:54:47 GMT 1
The biggest weakness in our team is the full backs. Sort this out and we've got a very competitive and consistent team on our hands. Really?! Robinson did well considering he was outnumbered 2/1 beacuse of the formation we played. Edgar and Wallace were abysmal and Hudson not much better. Without Lynch we're one dimensional at the back. Centre-backs the issue. |
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