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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 29, 2015 10:18:07 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 10:22:11 GMT 1
In a game like that where there will be chance after chance, surely he has to start. Best finisher Scotland have
Can understand him not playing in their tougher games where they play one up front though because that side of his game is pretty poor
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 10:41:51 GMT 1
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 29, 2015 10:42:50 GMT 1
That view of him is why I think he'd actually be better at a team like Arsenal, rather than a mid-table/lower Prem club.
Whether he'd be a regular starter is another thing.
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Post by Manx Terrier on Mar 29, 2015 11:53:53 GMT 1
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Post by terrierfortythree on Mar 29, 2015 12:11:45 GMT 1
wouldn't be surprised if it was Fletcher up top on his own in all honesty
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Post by figo on Mar 29, 2015 12:12:55 GMT 1
I'm at the game today
Hoping he starts
IFIGO
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 29, 2015 13:48:27 GMT 1
Strachan: He went away and worked on some things to make him a better [lone] striker.
Bollox! He's back in the frame 'cos Scotland haven't got anybody that can score enough goals.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2015 14:41:39 GMT 1
Scotland must have some top strikers at their disposal if they can leave someone like Rhodes out...and by top strikers I don't mean Steven Naismith, he's shite!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 14:49:43 GMT 1
Jordan is a great goal scorer but the amount of times he's been left on the sidelines must mean he is not the type of player Strachan is looking for. He wants high tempo aggressive football, Jordan is not that sort of player it would seem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 16:22:50 GMT 1
He should of chose England,then he could of not played for us,instead of not playing for Scotland
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Post by figo on Mar 29, 2015 16:40:34 GMT 1
On the bench
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 29, 2015 16:43:25 GMT 1
Is ollie playing for Northern Ire
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 17:20:20 GMT 1
Jesus christ Scotland, that is embarrassing
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 29, 2015 17:34:56 GMT 1
A team whose players have graced the leagues and we now see such a pathetic display against a team of no-hopers. They were arrogant before the game and it was all about how many they were going to score. So, well done to North Ferriby United on your success at Wembley today against Wrexham  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 18:19:51 GMT 1
He'd probably be their main striker now if he hadn't publicly got behind Team GB in the run up to London 2012.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 29, 2015 19:01:10 GMT 1
Rhodes missed his usual sitter br end
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Post by Stewpot on Mar 29, 2015 20:38:19 GMT 1
No easy games in international football any more !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 21:45:11 GMT 1
Rhodes lacks ambition in my view. Could have moved to the Premier League, but went for Blackburn. Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland.
A strong couple of seasons in the Premier League and he could genuinely have had Lambert's place on the plane to Brazil. Instead, he's not even guaranteed a start in the Championship.
Also think Rhodes paid for being a decent guy and not forcing through a move. If he'd mouthed off in the media and refused to play, he could easily have a cushty little number in the Prem and we'd be £5M worse off.
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Post by ozterrier on Mar 30, 2015 7:22:31 GMT 1
Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland.  has that got to do with ambition? The lad wants to play for his country, and he sees Scotland as his country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 7:29:33 GMT 1
Rhodes lacks ambition in my view. Could have moved to the Premier League, but went for Blackburn. Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland. A strong couple of seasons in the Premier League and he could genuinely have had Lambert's place on the plane to Brazil. Instead, he's not even guaranteed a start in the Championship. Also think Rhodes paid for being a decent guy and not forcing through a move. If he'd mouthed off in the media and refused to play, he could easily have a cushty little number in the Prem and we'd be £5M worse off. Premiership clubs were hardly falling over themselves to sign him then, anymore than they are now 3 years later! |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 30, 2015 7:32:30 GMT 1
Rhodes lacks ambition in my view. Could have moved to the Premier League, but went for Blackburn. Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland. A strong couple of seasons in the Premier League and he could genuinely have had Lambert's place on the plane to Brazil. Instead, he's not even guaranteed a start in the Championship. Also think Rhodes paid for being a decent guy and not forcing through a move. If he'd mouthed off in the media and refused to play, he could easily have a cushty little number in the Prem and we'd be £5M worse off. Premiership clubs were hardly falling over themselves to sign him then, anymore than they are now 3 years later! We know why don't we... he was never worth £8 million in the first place. Who is going to trump that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 8:10:57 GMT 1
Unfortunately his momentum has petered out. He needs to take a risk this summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 9:02:52 GMT 1
Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland. has that got to do with ambition? The lad wants to play for his country, and he sees Scotland as his country. Rhodes was born in England, lives in England and has done for the majority of his life. Either Scotland really made an impression on Rhodes, or he chose them on a technicality because he had more chance of getting in the side. Rhodes lacks ambition in my view. Could have moved to the Premier League, but went for Blackburn. Could have held out for an England call up but went for Scotland. A strong couple of seasons in the Premier League and he could genuinely have had Lambert's place on the plane to Brazil. Instead, he's not even guaranteed a start in the Championship. Also think Rhodes paid for being a decent guy and not forcing through a move. If he'd mouthed off in the media and refused to play, he could easily have a cushty little number in the Prem and we'd be £5M worse off. Premiership clubs were hardly falling over themselves to sign him then, anymore than they are now 3 years later! Premier League clubs were in for him. Sam Allardyce confirmed himself that he wanted to take him to West Ham. The only club that would meet his valuation were Blackburn though. Hence my point about him suffering for being a nice guy. If he'd forced through a move, he'd have gone to the Premier League and we would have been forced to take what we could get, rather than being able to demand our valuation was met. I know he would have been under contract but if you have a player who openly says he doesn't want to play for you, the contract doesn't mean much. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 10:46:50 GMT 1
has that got to do with ambition? The lad wants to play for his country, and he sees Scotland as his country. Rhodes was born in England, lives in England and has done for the majority of his life. Either Scotland really made an impression on Rhodes, or he chose them on a technicality because he had more chance of getting in the side. Premiership clubs were hardly falling over themselves to sign him then, anymore than they are now 3 years later! Premier League clubs were in for him. Sam Allardyce confirmed himself that he wanted to take him to West Ham. The only club that would meet his valuation were Blackburn though. Hence my point about him suffering for being a nice guy. If he'd forced through a move, he'd have gone to the Premier League and we would have been forced to take what we could get, rather than being able to demand our valuation was met. I know he would have been under contract but if you have a player who openly says he doesn't want to play for you, the contract doesn't mean much. Which is my point, one club that didn't meet our valuation is hardly "falling over themselves" a cheap cheeky bid from Sam was never going to be accepted. Refusing to honour his contract wouldn't do much for his career either, especially one who hadn't and still hasn't proved himself at a higher level. |
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Post by ozterrier on Mar 30, 2015 13:02:06 GMT 1
has that got to do with ambition? The lad wants to play for his country, and he sees Scotland as his country. Rhodes was born in England, lives in England and has done for the majority of his life. Either Scotland really made an impression on Rhodes, or he chose them on a technicality because he had more chance of getting in the side. He grew up there. Is it so hard to imagine? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 18:21:17 GMT 1
Rhodes was born in England, lives in England and has done for the majority of his life. Either Scotland really made an impression on Rhodes, or he chose them on a technicality because he had more chance of getting in the side. Premier League clubs were in for him. Sam Allardyce confirmed himself that he wanted to take him to West Ham. The only club that would meet his valuation were Blackburn though. Hence my point about him suffering for being a nice guy. If he'd forced through a move, he'd have gone to the Premier League and we would have been forced to take what we could get, rather than being able to demand our valuation was met. I know he would have been under contract but if you have a player who openly says he doesn't want to play for you, the contract doesn't mean much. Which is my point, one club that didn't meet our valuation is hardly "falling over themselves" a cheap cheeky bid from Sam was never going to be accepted. Refusing to honour his contract wouldn't do much for his career either, especially one who hadn't and still hasn't proved himself at a higher level. Its an interesting conundrum. If Blackburn weren't run by lunatics, then we wouldn't have had an offer that "met our valuation" that January. What would have happened then? Where would he have gone, for how much, and where would he be now? |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 30, 2015 18:30:49 GMT 1
Which is my point, one club that didn't meet our valuation is hardly "falling over themselves" a cheap cheeky bid from Sam was never going to be accepted. Refusing to honour his contract wouldn't do much for his career either, especially one who hadn't and still hasn't proved himself at a higher level. Its an interesting conundrum. If Blackburn weren't run by lunatics, then we wouldn't have had an offer that "met our valuation" that January. What would have happened then? Where would he have gone, for how much, and where would he be now? My vague understanding was that they had offered £4mm which was close to being accepted by Town, and then their manager of the day who's name I've forgot, started telling folk that they had actually signed Rhodes. Dean was miffed with this so doubled the price - and the daft Venky's still went ahead. Didn't Hull offer £12mm for him in the summer or window but Blackburn turned it down? Either that or Blackburn said Hull could have him for £12mm and Hull turned them down? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 22:51:40 GMT 1
Its an interesting conundrum. If Blackburn weren't run by lunatics, then we wouldn't have had an offer that "met our valuation" that January. What would have happened then? Where would he have gone, for how much, and where would he be now? My vague understanding was that they had offered £4mm which was close to being accepted by Town, and then their manager of the day who's name I've forgot, started telling folk that they had actually signed Rhodes. Dean was miffed with this so doubled the price - and the daft Venky's still went ahead. Didn't Hull offer £12mm for him in the summer or window but Blackburn turned it down? Either that or Blackburn said Hull could have him for £12mm and Hull turned them down? Rhodes keeps pricing himself out of moves by signing new contracts. If he really had ambition to play at a higher level he should let the contract run down so he can leave for less. I have said since he moved to Blackburn it was a great move financially but not for his career. |
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Post by impact on Mar 31, 2015 0:49:30 GMT 1
Imo he was right to stay in the championship. A lot of strikers (Stead being a prime example) make the jump too early and fail. He needed a season or 2 in the championship. It's a shame he's pretty much priced himself out of a move, however, as now (or last summer) is when he needs to move.
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has that got to do with ambition? The lad wants to play for his country, and he sees Scotland as his country.