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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:13:37 GMT 1
3-0 now. Good run down the right from Hanson and smart finish from Pyke.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 30, 2015 20:14:02 GMT 1
Just tuned in to see the goal, he's a great finisher is Pyke.
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Post by Cole on Mar 30, 2015 20:20:32 GMT 1
Next game at the JS a singing section needs to happen with the NSL and Kilner and whoever else fancies it.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 30, 2015 20:23:42 GMT 1
4-0
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Post by hudmat on Mar 30, 2015 20:24:14 GMT 1
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 30, 2015 20:26:39 GMT 1
Hanson, Pyke, Holmes and Billing all look very good. Very promising.
Wilkinson solid at the back as well.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 30, 2015 20:27:46 GMT 1
QPR commentators can't believe they are losing 4-0 - I can!
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Post by AndySk on Mar 30, 2015 20:29:22 GMT 1
The music editor of the Guardian (Michael Hann) is a QPR fan and at the match. He's tweeting updates and says Billing is comfortably the best player on the park. Hopefully we should see him get a couple of starts towards the end of the 2017/18 season
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:33:31 GMT 1
How deluded are these commentators?
QPR are playing the same way when I saw them against our U21's last season and Jakey Charles scored a worldy. QPR are a terrible team, these commentators need their heads checking.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 30, 2015 20:36:51 GMT 1
The music editor of the Guardian (Michael Hann) is a QPR fan and at the match. He's tweeting updates and says Billing is comfortably the best player on the park. "The music editor of the Guardian..." - never thought I'd see THOSE words on DATM!! You're not otium (EPBS) in disguise are you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:37:03 GMT 1
How deluded are these commentators? QPR are playing the same way when I saw them against our U21's last season and Jakey Charles scored a worldy. QPR are a terrible team, these commentators need their heads checking. To be fair, I wouldn't expect them to start laying into a load of kids. It does sound like they're missing a fair few on international duty. That said, we're a few classes better than them. Been impressed by Billing and Hanson.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:42:21 GMT 1
How deluded are these commentators? QPR are playing the same way when I saw them against our U21's last season and Jakey Charles scored a worldy. QPR are a terrible team, these commentators need their heads checking. To be fair, I wouldn't expect them to start laying into a load of kids. It does sound like they're missing a fair few on international duty. That said, we're a few classes better than them. Been impressed by Billing and Hanson. I expect them to be honest at least. We have players missing as well, Lolley and Charles being two. Oh and the mighty Gerrard.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Mar 30, 2015 20:45:39 GMT 1
Wright and W.Boyle elsewhere too.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Mar 30, 2015 20:56:32 GMT 1
No intensity at all in that game.
We need to be loaning people out to lower league and non-league clubs to get some game time.
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Post by terrierpark on Mar 30, 2015 20:56:39 GMT 1
Dont pass it Pyke lol... some promising lads there still think holmes has something to offer the first team .
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 30, 2015 20:58:53 GMT 1
The music editor of the Guardian (Michael Hann) is a QPR fan and at the match. He's tweeting updates and says Billing is comfortably the best player on the park. "The music editor of the Guardian..." - never thought I'd see THOSE words on DATM!! You're not otium (EPBS) in disguise are you? I hope you were watching. QPR commentators thought Holmes & Billing bossed in midfield.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 30, 2015 21:05:35 GMT 1
To be fair, I wouldn't expect them to start laying into a load of kids. It does sound like they're missing a fair few on international duty. That said, we're a few classes better than them. Been impressed by Billing and Hanson. I expect them to be honest at least. We have players missing as well, Lolley and Charles being two. Oh and the mighty Gerrard. "To Huddersfield fans tuning in, it's 4-0 but, I'm afraid to say it's very flattering". Knob.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:07:58 GMT 1
I expect them to be honest at least. We have players missing as well, Lolley and Charles being two. Oh and the mighty Gerrard. "To Huddersfield fans tuning in, it's 4-0 but, I'm afraid to say it's very flattering". Knob. Classic. It wasn't flattering, we took our chances and dominated in the final third. QPR dordled around in their own half for most of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:11:48 GMT 1
Wonder how many of our southern contingent of Town fans were there. Commentators mentioned some came in of the street and cheering us on, think they thought it was locals being sarcy.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 30, 2015 21:12:03 GMT 1
"To Huddersfield fans tuning in, it's 4-0 but, I'm afraid to say it's very flattering". Knob. Classic. It wasn't flattering, we took our chances and dominated in the final third. QPR dordled around in their own half for most of the game. "Andy" was a bit more balanced. The other one was like this -
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:15:31 GMT 1
No intensity at all in that game. We need to be loaning people out to lower league and non-league clubs to get some game time. You mean like the captain, Boyle? Commentators making a big thing about players missing, what about our weakened young team? LINK
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 30, 2015 21:20:58 GMT 1
The music editor of the Guardian (Michael Hann) is a QPR fan and at the match. He's tweeting updates and says Billing is comfortably the best player on the park. "The music editor of the Guardian..." - never thought I'd see THOSE words on DATM!! You're not otium (EPBS) in disguise are you? He pops up on Football Weekly when they need a QPR fan, Michael Hann. Beautifully miserably accepting of his team's lot.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 30, 2015 21:25:07 GMT 1
England U21s v Germany U21s is a stonker. England just scored 2 quick goals to make it 3-2. 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup, doo-dah, doo-dah...
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Mar 30, 2015 21:35:58 GMT 1
No intensity at all in that game. We need to be loaning people out to lower league and non-league clubs to get some game time. You mean like the captain, Boyle? Commentators making a big thing about players missing, what about our weakened young team? LINKExactly. It's a start but there are certainly others who would benefit. It's the first time I have seen an U21 game and surprised at just how pedestrian it was.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:51:53 GMT 1
You mean like the captain, Boyle? Commentators making a big thing about players missing, what about our weakened young team? LINKExactly. It's a start but there are certainly others who would benefit. It's the first time I have seen an U21 game and surprised at just how pedestrian it was. A good proportion of that squad tonight were U18s and no overage players. When players are ready like Boyle no doubt they will get the necessary moves, until then let 'em 'develop'. Billing and Tronstad no doubt would benefit next season, assuming they aren't starting Championship games.
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Post by bro600 on Mar 30, 2015 21:59:02 GMT 1
I've just watched 2 hours of under 21 football and both games were miles apart from each other. HTAFC couldn't have done their job any better than they did and there isn't anything i can say to knock that performance but i could see why these youngsters find the step up to the first team so difficult. The England v Germany under 21's showed a game that was intense and purposeful, the speed of the game was twice as quick as the Town game and mistakes were pounced upon and sometimes recovered from with the professionalism of experienced youngsters who probably have gained more experience with their clubs. But it does raise questions about club level under 21 games.. There is very little intensity and very little resting on the games and it shows. Playing football as though it's been rehearsed and players who look as though they are scared to be different. Very little individuality and devoid of passionate exchanges and heavy tackles between players, it's hardly blood stirring football. These players are going to need a fair bit of experience to reach a level of being prepared for championship football and it's a problem that might start to disappear given that a certain number of seniors are allowed to play in games nowadays. I don't know what the answer is but i've watched a lot of under 21 football and it's the same throughout their games maybe the financial rewards for under 21's winning something should be raised? Or the coaches get their heads together and try and steer clubs away from robotic football coaching and allow players the freedom to express themselves without the fear factor.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 30, 2015 22:26:31 GMT 1
I've just watched 2 hours of under 21 football and both games were miles apart from each other. HTAFC couldn't have done their job any better than they did and there isn't anything i can say to knock that performance but i could see why these youngsters find the step up to the first team so difficult. The England v Germany under 21's showed a game that was intense and purposeful, the speed of the game was twice as quick as the Town game and mistakes were pounced upon and sometimes recovered from with the professionalism of experienced youngsters who probably have gained more experience with their clubs. But it does raise questions about club level under 21 games.. There is very little intensity and very little resting on the games and it shows. Playing football as though it's been rehearsed and players who look as though they are scared to be different. Very little individuality and devoid of passionate exchanges and heavy tackles between players, it's hardly blood stirring football. These players are going to need a fair bit of experience to reach a level of being prepared for championship football and it's a problem that might start to disappear given that a certain number of seniors are allowed to play in games nowadays. I don't know what the answer is but i've watched a lot of under 21 football and it's the same throughout their games maybe the financial rewards for under 21's winning something should be raised? Or the coaches get their heads together and try and steer clubs away from robotic football coaching and allow players the freedom to express themselves without the fear factor. That's where the problem lies for me. The better players in our U21's should get their chance to play with the senior players imo. If they played with better players at a better standard then they have a better chance of developing into good players. As I've said before, back in 2003/2004 Town under Peter Jackson had five teenagers in the team at the same time. Now his hand may have been forced into that as we didn't two brass farthings to rub together, but these lads soon became first team regulars. We could have that now if we had a manager with the balls to give them a chance instead of sticking with players who achieved one win in ten.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Mar 30, 2015 22:27:38 GMT 1
I've just watched 2 hours of under 21 football and both games were miles apart from each other. HTAFC couldn't have done their job any better than they did and there isn't anything i can say to knock that performance but i could see why these youngsters find the step up to the first team so difficult. The England v Germany under 21's showed a game that was intense and purposeful, the speed of the game was twice as quick as the Town game and mistakes were pounced upon and sometimes recovered from with the professionalism of experienced youngsters who probably have gained more experience with their clubs. But it does raise questions about club level under 21 games.. There is very little intensity and very little resting on the games and it shows. Playing football as though it's been rehearsed and players who look as though they are scared to be different. Very little individuality and devoid of passionate exchanges and heavy tackles between players, it's hardly blood stirring football. These players are going to need a fair bit of experience to reach a level of being prepared for championship football and it's a problem that might start to disappear given that a certain number of seniors are allowed to play in games nowadays. I don't know what the answer is but i've watched a lot of under 21 football and it's the same throughout their games maybe the financial rewards for under 21's winning something should be raised? Or the coaches get their heads together and try and steer clubs away from robotic football coaching and allow players the freedom to express themselves without the fear factor. Although I think that is fair comment, as mentioned earlier, 4 of the starters were from the under 18 squad, there were some young lads in there. The most impressive thing for me was the quality of control of the Town players. A lot of one and two touch football, ready to run at the opposition and none of them was afraid to try and play there way out from the back. Loaning out to lower league clubs is a mixed blessing. You get competitive games but not the quality of play we saw in the game at Loftus Road tonight. I can certainly see Billing in the first team squad next season and really Duane Holmes ought to be there as well. Some of the other lads look like they are good prospects as well. Not sure how they make the step up but they have to be played otherwise the whole academy structure is for nothing. Interesting to see what happens in the summer. We may not be bringing many players in from outside.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 22:34:15 GMT 1
I've been saying it for ages that these nothing games do very little for their development in terms of being ready for first team football but usually get shot down by Coddington who won't have any of it
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 30, 2015 22:43:20 GMT 1
I've just watched 2 hours of under 21 football and both games were miles apart from each other. HTAFC couldn't have done their job any better than they did and there isn't anything i can say to knock that performance but i could see why these youngsters find the step up to the first team so difficult. The England v Germany under 21's showed a game that was intense and purposeful, the speed of the game was twice as quick as the Town game and mistakes were pounced upon and sometimes recovered from with the professionalism of experienced youngsters who probably have gained more experience with their clubs. But it does raise questions about club level under 21 games.. There is very little intensity and very little resting on the games and it shows. Playing football as though it's been rehearsed and players who look as though they are scared to be different. Very little individuality and devoid of passionate exchanges and heavy tackles between players, it's hardly blood stirring football. These players are going to need a fair bit of experience to reach a level of being prepared for championship football and it's a problem that might start to disappear given that a certain number of seniors are allowed to play in games nowadays. I don't know what the answer is but i've watched a lot of under 21 football and it's the same throughout their games maybe the financial rewards for under 21's winning something should be raised? Or the coaches get their heads together and try and steer clubs away from robotic football coaching and allow players the freedom to express themselves without the fear factor. That's where the problem lies for me. The better players in our U21's should get their chance to play with the senior players imo. If they played with better players at a better standard then they have a better chance of developing into good players. As I've said before, back in 2003/2004 Town under Peter Jackson had five teenagers in the team at the same time. Now his hand may have been forced into that as we didn't two brass farthings to rub together, but these lads soon became first team regulars. We could have that now if we had a manager with the balls to give them a chance instead of sticking with players who achieved one win in ten. I totally agree Powell should be braver, in partucular I'd like to have seen Billing or Tronstad played rather than Edgar in midfield and maybe even Hanson at RB when (based on someone else's opinion of him mind you!). However, in addition to Jackson's hands being tied, they were also playing a lot worse standard of football. Many of those players never played this level of football in their whole careers.
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