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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 12:38:19 GMT 1
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Post by Olliewise on Jun 1, 2015 13:28:18 GMT 1
Really? I had no idea! Someone should've said something at least twice on this post and maybe even created another thread for it...
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Post by Olliewise on Jun 1, 2015 14:03:56 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town has today appointed Stuart Webber as the Club's new Head of Football Operations. Official.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 1, 2015 17:38:03 GMT 1
Really? I had no idea! Someone should've said something at least twice on this post and maybe even created another thread for it... Yet you still feel it is necessary to post exactly the same on the other thread as well as this. Hypocrite.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 1, 2015 18:27:56 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town has today appointed Stuart Webber as the Club's new Head of Football Operations. Official. Scouted Sterling for Liverpool apparently? Let's hope he finds us some gems!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 18:47:18 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town has today appointed Stuart Webber as the Club's new Head of Football Operations. Official. Scouted Sterling for Liverpool apparently? Let's hope he finds us some gems! yes,instead of a fat arsed greedy, no end product player,that's too tired to play
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Post by wtd on Jun 1, 2015 18:47:26 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town has today appointed Stuart Webber as the Club's new Head of Football Operations. Official. Scouted Sterling for Liverpool apparently? Let's hope he finds us some gems! Not wanting to undermine the guy remotely, but wouldn't the hard work of scouting Raheem have been done by QPR originally?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 19:28:34 GMT 1
Major Swansea City story brewing. Done a deal for top young foreign player. Permit blocked by FA because blocks England players. Bizarre.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jun 1, 2015 19:44:24 GMT 1
Scouted Sterling for Liverpool apparently? Let's hope he finds us some gems! Not wanting to undermine the guy remotely, but wouldn't the hard work of scouting Raheem have been done by QPR originally? He was at QPR. I presume he was there whilst they took sterling on.
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Post by wtd on Jun 1, 2015 20:04:29 GMT 1
Not wanting to undermine the guy remotely, but wouldn't the hard work of scouting Raheem have been done by QPR originally? He was at QPR. I presume he was there whilst they took sterling on. So did he himself bring Raheem to QPR then or did he just tell Liverpool of a kid QPR had scouted whilst he was there?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 1, 2015 20:26:02 GMT 1
you cannot interfere with the 'mysteries' of Directors of Football...
it is beyond mortal mans comprehension..
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jun 1, 2015 20:49:46 GMT 1
He was at QPR. I presume he was there whilst they took sterling on. So did he himself bring Raheem to QPR then or did he just tell Liverpool of a kid QPR had scouted whilst he was there? Looked into it and he brought him to Liverpool, had nothing to do with him at qpr. He must have something about him. It will be at least a year until we see his work. Everything we do this summer will be down to wilsons planning.
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Post by wtd on Jun 1, 2015 21:20:22 GMT 1
So did he himself bring Raheem to QPR then or did he just tell Liverpool of a kid QPR had scouted whilst he was there? Looked into it and he brought him to Liverpool, had nothing to do with him at qpr. He must have something about him. It will be at least a year until we see his work. Everything we do this summer will be down to wilsons planning. I have no problem with Webber or his job description. He may well be terrific. I just cringe a bit when I see us all clutching at straws about such appointments ('he discovered Raheem Sterling, you know!') when, in truth, we know very little about him. We do it all the time with new signings and then, three games in, we do a 180 and completely write them off. Let's just admit we are all mainly in the dark about this guy. Let's just let it unfold.
Wasn't attributing the Raheem Sterling thing to you (or anyone in particular), by the way.
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Post by Tiro on Jun 1, 2015 21:36:41 GMT 1
Typical DATM. Only 6 hours into the job and already some are questioning his credentials and whether he's really done what it says on his CV.
*shakeyyellowhead
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Post by wtd on Jun 1, 2015 23:14:01 GMT 1
Typical DATM. Only 6 hours into the job and already some are questioning his credentials and whether he's really done what it says on his CV. *shakeyyellowhead If that's aimed at me I'm doing nothing of the sort. I'm saying let's neither build him up to something he might not be nor knock him down before we've given the guy a chance. I'm saying let's just see before we either get carried away or crucify him. After all, 97% of us hadn't even heard of him before today!
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Post by townrwe on Jun 2, 2015 9:43:06 GMT 1
If Town had any clue about PR, then they would preparing a website story about him and telling fans what his Job Description says, surely we appointed on a job description? We dont need to give away trade secrets, just give fans abit more knowledge on his role, before he is vilified like Ross Wilson was.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 2, 2015 9:45:39 GMT 1
If Town had any clue about PR, then they would preparing a website story about him and telling fans what his Job Description says, surely we appointed on a job description? We dont need to give away trade secrets, just give fans abit more knowledge on his role, before he is vilified like Ross Wilson was. Or alternatively you could just leave the running of a football club to them who know, and get on with your life .. What is it about modern life that makes people feel that they have to know everything about everything ?
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Post by Melc on Jun 2, 2015 9:57:46 GMT 1
It seems to me some on here think they know more about how to run a football club than the people that actually do it! Everything they do gets criticised by some on here! Dean Hoyle is making decisions at our club to try and improve us, so how about some of you lot on here getting behind him instead of constant questioning every move he makes!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 10:01:35 GMT 1
If Town had any clue about PR, then they would preparing a website story about him and telling fans what his Job Description says, surely we appointed on a job description? We dont need to give away trade secrets, just give fans abit more knowledge on his role, before he is vilified like Ross Wilson was. If anyone still does not understand what the role involves, it says far more about them than the club's PR.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 2, 2015 10:40:46 GMT 1
It seems to me some on here think they know more about how to run a football club than the people that actually do it! Everything they do gets criticised by some on here! Dean Hoyle is making decisions at our club to try and improve us, so how about some of you lot on here getting behind him instead of constant questioning every move he makes! Especially as everyone went out of their way to explain in great detail what Wilson was doing
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 2, 2015 10:52:51 GMT 1
If Town had any clue about PR, then they would preparing a website story about him and telling fans what his Job Description says, surely we appointed on a job description? We dont need to give away trade secrets, just give fans abit more knowledge on his role, before he is vilified like Ross Wilson was. How much more information can anyone want about Ross Wilson's role?
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Post by townrwe on Jun 2, 2015 11:19:46 GMT 1
It wasn't for me, it was for the twitter botherers. There are more people who support the club than those that attend Q&As at Canalside, Ross Wilson was criticized from the moment he joined to the moment he left. A simple press release early doors giving a little bit of insight into his role, would benefit relations between the board and the fans.
The Board/Owner aren't bigger than the club, they are only custodians until someone else takes the reins. Therefor alienating fans is a poor way to go in my opinion, as it stands they could quite easily alienate a generation of Huddersfield fans, Interaction between the club and fans in my opinion needs to be addressed, They have gone from one extreme (too much communication, cheap season tickets, trying to encourage fans etc etc) to the other (No communication except q&A, outrageous walk up pricing, looking after only the dwindling season ticket holders and not attracting fans etc etc) Where actually the position to be in, is the happy medium between the two, The day of the loyal football fan supporting their local club are numbered, there is too much competition for that support and over inflated prices are pushing fans further away....
Huddersfields PR department needs to be looked at, Its VERY VERY poor, even down to the way it handles transfers, Its like a work experience kid has been put in charge.......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 11:26:00 GMT 1
It wasn't for me, it was for the twitter botherers. There are more people who support the club than those that attend Q&As at Canalside, Ross Wilson was criticized from the moment he joined to the moment he left. A simple press release early doors giving a little bit of insight into his role, would benefit relations between the board and the fans. The Board/Owner aren't bigger than the club, they are only custodians until someone else takes the reins. Therefor alienating fans is a poor way to go in my opinion, as it stands they could quite easily alienate a generation of Huddersfield fans, Interaction between the club and fans in my opinion needs to be addressed, They have gone from one extreme (too much communication, cheap season tickets, trying to encourage fans etc etc) to the other (No communication except q&A, outrageous walk up pricing, looking after only the dwindling season ticket holders and not attracting fans etc etc) Where actually the position to be in, is the happy medium between the two, The day of the loyal football fan supporting their local club are numbered, there is too much competition for that support and over inflated prices are pushing fans further away.... Huddersfields PR department needs to be looked at, Its VERY VERY poor, even down to the way it handles transfers, Its like a work experience kid has been put in charge....... You mean like this: www.htafc.com/news/article/first-team-news-ross-wilson-308929.aspx?pageView=full#anchored
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Post by townrwe on Jun 2, 2015 11:36:31 GMT 1
It wasn't for me, it was for the twitter botherers. There are more people who support the club than those that attend Q&As at Canalside, Ross Wilson was criticized from the moment he joined to the moment he left. A simple press release early doors giving a little bit of insight into his role, would benefit relations between the board and the fans. The Board/Owner aren't bigger than the club, they are only custodians until someone else takes the reins. Therefor alienating fans is a poor way to go in my opinion, as it stands they could quite easily alienate a generation of Huddersfield fans, Interaction between the club and fans in my opinion needs to be addressed, They have gone from one extreme (too much communication, cheap season tickets, trying to encourage fans etc etc) to the other (No communication except q&A, outrageous walk up pricing, looking after only the dwindling season ticket holders and not attracting fans etc etc) Where actually the position to be in, is the happy medium between the two, The day of the loyal football fan supporting their local club are numbered, there is too much competition for that support and over inflated prices are pushing fans further away.... Huddersfields PR department needs to be looked at, Its VERY VERY poor, even down to the way it handles transfers, Its like a work experience kid has been put in charge....... You mean like this: www.htafc.com/news/article/first-team-news-ross-wilson-308929.aspx?pageView=full#anchoredFor all that guff the only bit about what he did was below, hardly enlightening. "We aim to be leaders in our approach to Football Operations – this covers elements such as our recruitment process, from under-8 to senior level; Sports Science; medical and analysis. These all have a critical role to play in making a difference to the Club and its success." So whilst ross wilson was here...Recruitment - Hit and Miss, no-one has graduated from our own academy.... Sports Science - We have signed several players that spend as much time on the treatment table as on the field, We have conceded many late goals probably due to fitness levels and we dont appear to have learnt from mistakes. So he was a failure, based on that job description? agree or disagree?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 11:51:53 GMT 1
For all that guff the only bit about what he did was below, hardly enlightening. "We aim to be leaders in our approach to Football Operations – this covers elements such as our recruitment process, from under-8 to senior level; Sports Science; medical and analysis. These all have a critical role to play in making a difference to the Club and its success." So whilst ross wilson was here...Recruitment - Hit and Miss, no-one has graduated from our own academy.... Sports Science - We have signed several players that spend as much time on the treatment table as on the field, We have conceded many late goals probably due to fitness levels and we dont appear to have learnt from mistakes. So he was a failure, based on that job description? agree or disagree? You've quickly changed your tune. I'd say it is too early to judge academy players that he brought in. It's fairly obvious that we extended the area we recruit from, with players coming in from Norway, Denmark, Scotland & Ireland. At this stage who knows if they'll be good enough.. I'm not sure why you're blaming Wilson for first team players not learning from mistakes, or what you're basing your claim that we conceded late goals due to fitness issues on. Also, using sports science does not mean you then get zero injuries, we actually weren't too bad in that department. I also can't believe this is still being debated, or why I'm bothering. You should go back to making up stupid transfer rumours.
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Post by towntastic on Jun 2, 2015 12:14:37 GMT 1
It wasn't for me, it was for the twitter botherers. There are more people who support the club than those that attend Q&As at Canalside, Ross Wilson was criticized from the moment he joined to the moment he left. A simple press release early doors giving a little bit of insight into his role, would benefit relations between the board and the fans. The Board/Owner aren't bigger than the club, they are only custodians until someone else takes the reins. Therefor alienating fans is a poor way to go in my opinion, as it stands they could quite easily alienate a generation of Huddersfield fans, Interaction between the club and fans in my opinion needs to be addressed, They have gone from one extreme (too much communication, cheap season tickets, trying to encourage fans etc etc) to the other (No communication except q&A, outrageous walk up pricing, looking after only the dwindling season ticket holders and not attracting fans etc etc) Where actually the position to be in, is the happy medium between the two, The day of the loyal football fan supporting their local club are numbered, there is too much competition for that support and over inflated prices are pushing fans further away.... Huddersfields PR department needs to be looked at, Its VERY VERY poor, even down to the way it handles transfers, Its like a work experience kid has been put in charge....... The Board/Owner can do what they like with the club, they are in control. Im not happy about having to move my seat to accommodate the away fans, think it has been handled terribly and is likely to cause problems, but the club is theirs to do what they like with. If Im too pssd off then I may not renew next season but I will get over it and renew as always. Just ask the Blackpool fans if they think the Oystons are just custodians.
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Post by townrwe on Jun 2, 2015 12:26:21 GMT 1
It wasn't for me, it was for the twitter botherers. There are more people who support the club than those that attend Q&As at Canalside, Ross Wilson was criticized from the moment he joined to the moment he left. A simple press release early doors giving a little bit of insight into his role, would benefit relations between the board and the fans. The Board/Owner aren't bigger than the club, they are only custodians until someone else takes the reins. Therefor alienating fans is a poor way to go in my opinion, as it stands they could quite easily alienate a generation of Huddersfield fans, Interaction between the club and fans in my opinion needs to be addressed, They have gone from one extreme (too much communication, cheap season tickets, trying to encourage fans etc etc) to the other (No communication except q&A, outrageous walk up pricing, looking after only the dwindling season ticket holders and not attracting fans etc etc) Where actually the position to be in, is the happy medium between the two, The day of the loyal football fan supporting their local club are numbered, there is too much competition for that support and over inflated prices are pushing fans further away.... Huddersfields PR department needs to be looked at, Its VERY VERY poor, even down to the way it handles transfers, Its like a work experience kid has been put in charge....... The Board/Owner can do what they like with the club, they are in control. Im not happy about having to move my seat to accommodate the away fans, think it has been handled terribly and is likely to cause problems, but the club is theirs to do what they like with. If Im too pssd off then I may not renew next season but I will get over it and renew as always. Just ask the Blackpool fans if they think the Oystons are just custodians. In 10 years time will the Oystons be in charge at Blackpool? unlikely.... Will Dean Hoyle be in charge at Huddersfield? unlikely.... So they are custodians. As far as Im concerned, Oyston is just a more extreme version of what our football club is doing to its fans. Id forgotten about the forced move, but you can add that to the list. We were promised sustainable championship football... If crowds keep dropping, prices will have to keep raising.... That in my opinion makes it unsustainable.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 2, 2015 12:36:10 GMT 1
owners might not pick the teams but owners along with directors of football might just start pressurising managers into picking/playing the players they have recruited???
you may well get the situation of conflict between the bloke who's neck is on the line against the bloke who oversees the 'footballing' side of the club..
there just seen to be enough conflicts of interest at football clubs already...having 20 odd players with agents who all feel they should be playing and supporters who are always ready to be up in arms(every club not just town) having another level of 'interest' in who comes to the club and who plays week in week out appears to further confuse the issue?
the idea that the manager will have the final say, seems a little naive, at best?
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Post by townrwe on Jun 2, 2015 12:49:01 GMT 1
owners might not pick the teams but owners along with directors of football might just start pressurising managers into picking/playing the players they have recruited??? you may well get the situation of conflict between the bloke who's neck is on the line against the bloke who oversees the 'footballing' side of the club.. there just seen to be enough conflicts of interest at football clubs already...having 20 odd players with agents who all feel they should be playing and supporters who are always ready to be up in arms(every club not just town) having another level of 'interest' in who comes to the club and who plays week in week out appears to further confuse the issue? the idea that the manager will have the final say, seems a little naive, at best? I often wonder about Graysons tenure, Something must have gone off behind the scenes or he couldnt work with wilson....It was a strange end really, he looked totally disinterested, you could say the same about Robins when his own backroom staff were replaced and then he walked. I wonder if the director of football had any baring on this.... maybe not allowing them to recruit only of a tight list provided? Im sure its not for everyone, the manager must have different ideas to the director of football and even stats. I wonder who was actually responsible for picking and signing the likes of beckford and clayton and norwoood? Grayson or wilson.... I havent bothered looking into it, but did wilson or now webber actually play professional football? Are they pro licence coaches? What makes them qualified to pick players? or are they just glorified statisticians that have got into football from playing football manager?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 12:58:26 GMT 1
I find it hard it hard to understand why the board get so much criticism,as far as communicating with the fans goes,,there can't be many clubs in the league where the fans know board members like we do,how many clubs fans get the chance to cycle,walk with them,have there kids play against the players,the list goes on,most clubs fans won't even know what there board members look like,never mind speak to them,,plus when some things are worth hearing,they let us hear it,some people need to have there arses wiped at times
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