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Post by huddersfc on May 14, 2015 17:09:08 GMT 1
I have made my frustration clear regarding the integrity of the game and the precedence they have set, by way of email. I very much doubt it will make the slightest bit of difference. Oysten will be at the bar with the rest of those clowns, laughing and joking aboout it now.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 14, 2015 17:12:05 GMT 1
east mids..
the ball was in play for 90 odd minutes.. posh could still have scored.. result was settled on the pitch whilst finishing the full allotted time..nowhere does it say you have to win or try and win a game..but you have to play them..
if we had, had a replay with blackpool and played our 3rd team, that's our decision and our responsibility..
if it was a meaningless game why did we play a very strong team??? totally ignored by the league committee..
because it mattered to us and I hope we never go into a professional game that the club/staff and players think is meaningless..
people pay to watch, people on all sorts of incomes and people put themselves out to pay into the 'game', the fuckwits at the league seem to have overlooked this again..
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Post by bigfatmonkey on May 14, 2015 17:16:56 GMT 1
Of the three options available they have picked the only one that seemed like it couldn't be picked by a sane, intelligent, logical thinking person. Well done Football League, you have well and truly outdone yourselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:17:03 GMT 1
What a surprise take the easy way out. Guess they probably having a drink in the bar with their mate Karl Oyston as we speak and having a laugh about it. They just don't give a sh*t about the little clubs. Or the medium clubs !
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:18:42 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 14, 2015 17:20:21 GMT 1
IF WE CALLED OURSELVES 'SLEEPING GIANTS' MORE OFTEN, WOULD IT HAVE AFFECTED THE DECISION???
im shouting now..the capitals just kept coming..sorry..
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Post by benmsmith4 on May 14, 2015 17:21:27 GMT 1
Late to the party so can someone confirm for me:
The precedent that has been set is that a game that has significance (eg relegation/promotion) will be replayed in the event of abandonment via pitch invasion?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:21:58 GMT 1
Called it 5 pages ago. Its a stupid decision as many have said but as there was nothing significant riding on the outcome I am not at all surprised by the decision. I just don't agree with it. It should be a standard 3-0 win awarded to the visiting club if the home fans cause the abandonment as UEFA have done in the past.
I doubt the Club will appeal it because no doubt there will be costs involved and nothing to gain.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 14, 2015 17:25:24 GMT 1
The Blackpool fans involved actually wanted to cause harm to their own club.
as it stands they are the only 'winners' from the incident..
the point awarded to them makes no difference to their 'stated aims'...
very dangerous decision here..
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:27:32 GMT 1
us blackpool fans also feel you shouldhave been awarded the full 3 points. We invaded the pitch, for severeal reasons. 1. We wanted the club to be fined, and fined as much as humanly possible. 2. we wanted the club to be punished, and hopefully make it so as many games at blackpool are held behind closed doors, robbing oystain of his income, and making the peoples 2 year season tickets invalid, thus causing the home fans to seek money off the oystons. 3. have the club brought into disrepute so that no manager and no players will ever come here. 4. to make it so no away fans will want to risk coming in case the games are called off, reduces karls income further. 5. to make no one want to sponsor us. 6. to finish on the lowest points ever recorded to add humiliation to kokos reign. we actually think its an injustice you did not gain all 3 points. and i for one hope that they fine my club blackpool fc 90 million, and hope they give us a 10 point at least deduction, and make us play behind closed doors, bankrupting the oystons. and making blackpool fc ceither change hands or die so we can start a new club with fans money
You're going to get nowhere with this approach I'm afraid.
No sensible purchaser is going to front up the cash for a serious takeover bid with such a poisonous atmosphere (which WOULDNT be lifted overnight...its a lot easier to give up regularly supporting a football team than to start doing it).
Self made people like the Oyston family just see it as a challenge, theyre probably more determined now than they were 2 years ago, so they can say, "told you I'm right and you know nothing about running football clubs".
If there is fans money, why not just start a new club anyway??? *Nothing* is stopping you doing the whole FC United thing.
It sounds from the outside like you want to threaten to turn your backs, without actually going through with it. If you believe in your cause to that extent...just walk away, and go and support FC Blackpool (or whatever) on their rise up the non league structure.
If you cant afford a takeover deal that would satisfy the Oystons, thats your ONLY option.
For what its worth, I guess that destroying the club so Blackpool is no more opens up a prime bit of real estate, with good access and masses of nearby parking, that someone could make a great deal of money out of. I'd think on who would gain from that too.
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Post by philincalifornia on May 14, 2015 17:35:43 GMT 1
Called it 5 pages ago. Its a stupid decision as many have said but as there was nothing significant riding on the outcome I am not at all surprised by the decision. I just don't agree with it. It should be a standard 3-0 win awarded to the visiting club if the home fans cause the abandonment as UEFA have done in the past. I doubt the Club will appeal it because no doubt there will be costs involved and nothing to gain. That's probably the crux of the whole decision. They know that Clibbens is too cheap to hire a lawyer and Cellino isn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:39:54 GMT 1
If it's a 'meaningless' game, how come Blackpool - with their point - escape the unwanted record of having been relegated with the fewest number of points? They are now equal with Stockport on 26. So much for being meaningless. Pathetic decision.
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Post by y2troy on May 14, 2015 17:44:15 GMT 1
Shocking decision to punish the innocent side in all of this, sets a bad precedant this now as everyone says ..take a fine and stay up as these bunch of halfwits that sit in an office all day have power to come up with an important decision.
Would they do this if was any bigger known team i think not
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Post by benmsmith4 on May 14, 2015 17:46:45 GMT 1
Don't get where people have got the assumption from the FL statements that in the future fans can invade and get points. They'd be able to get a replay (still a poor precedent) but not points?
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Post by 3Pipe on May 14, 2015 17:48:48 GMT 1
2 interesting names. Looking at that list we didn't stand a chance.
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Post by benmsmith4 on May 14, 2015 17:52:03 GMT 1
Don't get where people have got the assumption from the FL statements that in the future fans can invade and get points. They'd be able to get a replay (still a poor precedent) but not points? So can we invade the pitch whenever we're losing a game at home and keep replaying it until we win? Can't wait to win all home games next season. Yeah, as I said, it's a poor precedent. Just pointing out that some fans have drawn the wrong conclusion regarding points.
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Post by walkdenterrier on May 14, 2015 17:54:02 GMT 1
Well the precedent has now been set. 1 - 0 up second half needing 3 points lets all just invade the pitch, refuse to leave and let the FL award "the result stands. I reckon we will now see a lot more of this type of behaviour from fans. What would the FL league do if it happened in the play offs??
Un "fcuking" beleivable FL.
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Post by yorkshiretripod on May 14, 2015 17:56:34 GMT 1
Villa have been fined £200,000 for the pitch invasion during the cup tie with West Bromwich. It'll be interesting to see what punishment is meted out to Blackpool in light of this.
The outcome of the game wasn't meaningless to us as our final placing could have been bettered though as I understand it, no cash prizes are awarded for finishing where we could possibly have done. It's not even that the decision has prevented us from finishing above Leeds, I'm not too fussed about that.
Disappointed but not overly surprised.
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2015 18:00:12 GMT 1
Wycombe fans get on the pitch tonight and you're through to Wembley. Is there a competition between the FL and the ECB to see who can be the most fucking incompetance ?
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Post by sameoldstory on May 14, 2015 18:03:16 GMT 1
It asks the question - so if Blackpool had been winning would they have awarded the 3 points ? Probably judging by what's just happened.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on May 14, 2015 18:06:14 GMT 1
Aston Villa have just been fined £200,000 by the FA for fans' pitch invasion They only invaded for a few minutes. They should work out the 'per minute' fine and charge blackpool with a fine for 43 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 18:16:43 GMT 1
Don't get where people have got the assumption from the FL statements that in the future fans can invade and get points. They'd be able to get a replay (still a poor precedent) but not points? And if it was the last match of the season? Again?!!
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Post by amoeba on May 14, 2015 18:19:39 GMT 1
I'm not up on the prize money awards but I'm assuming that's more than Villa got for prize money for getting through but how does it stand against tv/gate money they got after getting through?
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 14, 2015 18:20:50 GMT 1
Called this earlier!
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 14, 2015 18:26:59 GMT 1
Sir/Madam, in regards to the League decision on this uncompleted Championship fixture, i wish to point out one simple fact to yourselves. As per the social media before and after the said game, it was the avowed intention of a number of Blackpool FC supporters to enter the playing area and to occupy that area until they were forcibly removed or the match was abandoned. They spoke openly before during and after the match of their intention to cause the game to be abandoned and for the club to face whatever penalties were then placed upon it. The inaction on the day of the Police and Club Officials and stewards was regrettable but understandable as the ‘protest’ was initially peaceful and children and a disabled person were involved. The decision not to replay the match or part of it, on your behalf was easy, lazy and lacking any integrity. The decision today to award both teams a point and then the ludicrous reasons given are not even worth repeating on here. The only persons ‘winning’ anything from both ‘spineless’ decisions by the Football League are the supporters who set out to break the law and the rules and therefore you could be seen to be complicit in this, even though you hide behind the decision not to actually make a decision. You leave yourselves open to these possible allegations, true or untrue. I am aware the FA will have made your decision for you and they will deal ‘heavily’ with Blackpool FC, although this again will only actually affect the well behaved supporters of that famous club, whilst the few hundred misguided will see it all as some great victory for themselves. Congratulations on again showing no backbone and releasing press statements that clearly show the League is run by ‘yes men’ and persons who dont care enough to even check that these statements actually make any sense. We all now await your back sliding and excuses for the QPR debacle and your ability to bend over backwards to not make a decision that actually means anything much. yours..from a football fan who believes the 3 points from every professional league game are sacrosanct..if not why bother..?
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Post by 3Pipe on May 14, 2015 18:30:32 GMT 1
It asks the question - so if Blackpool had been winning would they have awarded the 3 points ? Probably judging by what's just happened. Sorry, I didn't quite catch that.
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Post by softboy on May 14, 2015 18:41:42 GMT 1
Just posted on the other thread. I beleive that as the basis for awarding a draw was because "points have to gained by achievement on the pitch" then yes Blackpool would have got the three points and now a precedent has been set so would any other team (winning) in the future.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 18:52:40 GMT 1
What a fucking joke decision that is.
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