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Post by Sio on Jul 3, 2015 13:33:07 GMT 1
That's a very defensive minded middle 3. I'd hope we'd be looking at someone more forward thinking to replace Coady - McGugan rumours would suit me. Coady played behind Hogg last season and was moved forward when we played Poyet or Edgar in place of the injured Hogg. Whitehead would slot straight in behind Hogg. "Coady was pushed slightly higher up the field due to Jonathan Hogg’s injury absence, with new loan signing David Edgar played a holding midfield role." www.htafc.com/news/article/conor-coady-huddersfield-town-leeds-united-wigan-athletic-2230269.aspxI thought our midfield was far too defensive last year, too. Whitehead will be much more of a fixed holding midfielder than Coady was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 13:33:17 GMT 1
it's a fuckin fish with a big tail(tropical) What is? Conor Coady
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 3, 2015 13:33:16 GMT 1
Does he need replacing in midfield - didn't we just sign Whitehead? This leaves Whitehead, Butterfield and Hogg for central midfield before we introduce Billing and Holmes into the equation. We missed experience at times last seasion and that shouldn't be the case this year with Whitehead replacing Coady in the first XI. Everyone rates Billing and hopefully this season he can become a regular member of the first team squad who is a full 3 years younger than Coady. I don't feel we need a direct replacement in midfield I would rather the money be spent on our defence. Hogg only played about 20 games last season because of injures and Chris Powell said Whitehead wouldn't be up to playing 3 games a week so I would say yes we need another CM
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Post by Giggity on Jul 3, 2015 13:39:23 GMT 1
Not too fussed about losing Coady however it is poor negotiation skills from Town. There's no way the likes of Peterborough would have accepted circa £2m
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Post by Olliewise on Jul 3, 2015 13:39:55 GMT 1
Heard about this move yesterday, but can't say anymore. His agent has tweeted a photo outside Wolves' training ground though, which is very unprofessional in my opinion :/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 13:40:03 GMT 1
Is Coady honestly as great as he's being made out to be by some? When fully fit if I could pick 2 CM's it would be Hogg and Butterfield. Personally found Coady a bit weak in the tackle and he hardly contributed with goals/assists (I know neither did Hogg but I think he held the core of the team together better). I think Whitehead and Hogg both are stronger defensively and if we get £2m I've 100% confidence Powell will find a good attacking midfielder to bring in to link with Butterfield.
I think Coady has the potential don't get me wrong, and is a decent player, but for £2m I don't think it would be the worst bit of business we have ever done. Although like mentioned if we kept him for another 12 months I can only imagine his value would rise and he would improve us as a team this year, so I think we should have potentially twisted their arm for more although I'm sure we'll have a significant sell on clause on him. I can think of several first team players I would rather keep. The priority for me was keeping Lynch, Butterfield Scannell and Wells, also think Bunn will be crucial for us this season (maybe he will learn to play a central attacking midfield role?)
If he does leave then good luck to the lad.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 3, 2015 13:40:46 GMT 1
I'd go with Butterfield, Scannell, Lynch, Vaughan, Smithies (controversial for a lot but for me bizarrely underrated by a lot of town fans, it'll only become obvious when he eventually leaves) I'd be more disappointed with if they went and I'd put him on a par with Bunn, doesn't mean I don't rate him or his potential but if he's the one player to go and we can get good money and improve elsewhere it's not the biggest disaster in the world. Its his ability to play that deep midfield role for me and how he goes about. Players who can do this properly are as rare as hens teeth. I see Scannell, Vaughan amd Smithies as fairly easily replaceable. Been waiting donkeys years for us to get someone to balance up a midfield - then we go and flog him. There's a reason Scannell got the players player of the year, not many wide men especially at this level will put the shift in he does going forwards and backwards. The opposition get the ball he's straight back to right wing back/right back, we get the ball and he's our main outlet. Vaughan (admittedly when fit) is our talisman, him being on the pitch gives everyone a lift, Wigan away being the perfect example I'd imagine everyone got a huge boost when we found out he was playing on the way to the game. Smithies is easily replaceable until it comes to the day we actually have to replace him.
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Post by snoopy on Jul 3, 2015 13:41:26 GMT 1
If the rumor is true and its £2m, im happy with that. Sold Clayton who is a better player for £1.5m last year and replaced well. I'm confident they will do the same again this year.
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Post by Olliewise on Jul 3, 2015 13:42:26 GMT 1
Reports believe that initial fee was 1.8 mil, but has been raised to 2 mil, after haggling. If that's true, I think Town must have plans for the extra money. Put it this way, I'd rather lose him than Butterfield.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 3, 2015 13:43:01 GMT 1
Does he need replacing in midfield - didn't we just sign Whitehead? This leaves Whitehead, Butterfield and Hogg for central midfield before we introduce Billing and Holmes into the equation. We missed experience at times last seasion and that shouldn't be the case this year with Whitehead replacing Coady in the first XI. Everyone rates Billing and hopefully this season he can become a regular member of the first team squad who is a full 3 years younger than Coady. I don't feel we need a direct replacement in midfield I would rather the money be spent on our defence. Hogg only played about 20 games last season because of injures and Chris Powell said Whitehead wouldn't be up to playing 3 games a week so I would say yes we need another CM Should we be employing anybody that's incapable of doing their job three times a week?
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Post by royrace on Jul 3, 2015 13:43:42 GMT 1
Difference between town and wolves; However Jackett insisted that McDonald would not be leaving the club, saying he was a ‘big part’ of his plans.
Jackett confirmed Fulham had entered a ‘very low’ bid, which was not given consideration.
The head coach added: “Kevin McDonald is a big part of our plans and he’s not a player we want to lose, whether it be to a Championship rival like Fulham, or anybody else.
If only our management were saying the same about coady..... Let me translate for you: "He's for sale but not for the crappy first offer Fulham have made. Show me the money"
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 3, 2015 13:46:33 GMT 1
Does he need replacing in midfield - didn't we just sign Whitehead? This leaves Whitehead, Butterfield and Hogg for central midfield before we introduce Billing and Holmes into the equation. We missed experience at times last seasion and that shouldn't be the case this year with Whitehead replacing Coady in the first XI. Everyone rates Billing and hopefully this season he can become a regular member of the first team squad who is a full 3 years younger than Coady. I don't feel we need a direct replacement in midfield I would rather the money be spent on our defence. Hogg only played about 20 games last season because of injures and Chris Powell said Whitehead wouldn't be up to playing 3 games a week so I would say yes we need another CM I have no doubt Hogg will play more than 23 league starts last season, he made 37 the season before. Where did Powell state that Whitehead couldn't play 3 times in a week, I never heard this quote and am surprised because he did this several times last season for a playoff team.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 3, 2015 13:49:12 GMT 1
He's as good as gone then, this money needs to be invested straight back into the squad!
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 13:53:35 GMT 1
Its his ability to play that deep midfield role for me and how he goes about. Players who can do this properly are as rare as hens teeth. I see Scannell, Vaughan amd Smithies as fairly easily replaceable. Been waiting donkeys years for us to get someone to balance up a midfield - then we go and flog him. There's a reason Scannell got the players player of the year, not many wide men especially at this level will put the shift in he does going forwards and backwards. The opposition get the ball he's straight back to right wing back/right back, we get the ball and he's our main outlet. Vaughan (admittedly when fit) is our talisman, him being on the pitch gives everyone a lift, Wigan away being the perfect example I'd imagine everyone got a huge boost when we found out he was playing on the way to the game. Smithies is easily replaceable until it comes to the day we actually have to replace him. Coady was my talisman. I got a lift when he was in the team. Not trying to disrespect Scannell, Vaughan, Butterfield etc we were building a decent team
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 3, 2015 13:54:16 GMT 1
Hogg only played about 20 games last season because of injures and Chris Powell said Whitehead wouldn't be up to playing 3 games a week so I would say yes we need another CM I have no doubt Hogg will play more than 23 league starts last season, he made 37 the season before. Where did Powell state that Whitehead couldn't play 3 times in a week, I never heard this quote and am surprised because he did this several times last season for a playoff team. He said it one of the interviews I read when he signed Whitehead why are you so sure about Hogg
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 13:55:17 GMT 1
Could turn out to be a good deal for us,Whitehead a ready made replacement,billing steps up as cover and we go and get Tarkowski on permanent deal or loan Liam Moore.More likely though someone who's free!!Utt If flogging Coady is the route to a stonking centre half - then I'm prepared to stomach it.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 13:55:32 GMT 1
Just heard from a Wolves fan who I work with and he says that this rumour is a load of bull shit - It's a rumour they've started as a laugh on a Wolves forum and the local paper has picked up on it. Nothing to see here, move along That's crap I'm afraid baz.. sources are impeccable
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Post by royrace on Jul 3, 2015 13:56:22 GMT 1
Classy from the agent that, very professional.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 3, 2015 13:58:25 GMT 1
Heard about this move yesterday, but can't say anymore. His agent has tweeted a photo outside Wolves' training ground though, which is very unprofessional in my opinion :/ You mean you read it on here?
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Post by Lard Buttie on Jul 3, 2015 13:59:24 GMT 1
Just heard from a Wolves fan who I work with and he says that this rumour is a load of bull shit - It's a rumour they've started as a laugh on a Wolves forum and the local paper has picked up on it. Nothing to see here, move along That's crap I'm afraid baz.. sources are impeccable Aye Ted, I'm starting to believe now tbf. He was adamant that it was a bullshit rumour though but perhaps it was and it started the ball rolling.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 3, 2015 13:59:42 GMT 1
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 3, 2015 14:00:58 GMT 1
Could turn out to be a good deal for us,Whitehead a ready made replacement,billing steps up as cover and we go and get Tarkowski on permanent deal or loan Liam Moore.More likely though someone who's free!!Utt If flogging Coady is the route to a stonking centre half - then I'm prepared to stomach it. I agree
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 3, 2015 14:02:54 GMT 1
Sorry to see Coady go to but players come and players go, as long as we sign a decent replacement that's all we can ask for. What I would like is that we go for a young player that has the same potential to develop and potentially make us some money, just hoping Powell isn't going to look to replace him with a 30+ player on the wane (I'm thinking someone like Jonnie Jackson) we've got our old head in Whitehead.
We are always going to be moving players like Coady on, I think players like him have always been signed with one eye on being moved on for profit at some point.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 14:03:27 GMT 1
If flogging Coady is the route to a stonking centre half - then I'm prepared to stomach it. I agree I've just thought though - maybe Wolves have bought him for their back 4. Smart bugger that Jackett who often gets the best of Town.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 3, 2015 14:05:17 GMT 1
Just hope they don't pay us in instalments!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 3, 2015 14:05:41 GMT 1
Could turn out to be a good deal for us,Whitehead a ready made replacement,billing steps up as cover and we go and get Tarkowski on permanent deal or loan Liam Moore.More likely though someone who's free!!Utt If flogging Coady is the route to a stonking centre half - then I'm prepared to stomach it. That surely has to be the priority. Its blindingly obvious to the majority of us that we need a bloody good central defender so lets hope that Powell sees that too.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 3, 2015 14:06:09 GMT 1
Heard about this move yesterday, but can't say anymore. His agent has tweeted a photo outside Wolves' training ground though, which is very unprofessional in my opinion :/ I have always given you the benefit of the doubt but now there is no doubt you are a total prat
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 3, 2015 14:06:26 GMT 1
Tbf if afobe has another season like this season wolves will be serious contenders for the automatic spots!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 14:06:52 GMT 1
Classy from the agent that, very professional. Don't you just want to smash his smarmy ******* fat face in ? Just what exactly will he have done to earn his £200k cut ? 2 days work of bullsh***ing and filling in a few documents ??
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Post by hd7terrier on Jul 3, 2015 14:08:13 GMT 1
I have to be honest I'm getting a little peeved with the way the club keep selling our better players, which Conor clearly is. Is it just me that thinks it's time we started building a squad keeping our better players and adding 1 or 2 each season to improve us slightly further? IMO this is the only way we are going to make proper strides forward. If we get towards the playoffs the attendances will increase allowing us to buy even better players. Maybe then we could do a Blackpool or Burnley and sneak a promotion which lets be honest is what everyone of us fans want. Theres no evidence for that. Weve made big strides forward over the past 4 years and home support hasn't gone up at all. Back in the Rubery days we were up at the top of this diviison and crowds were small. Even recently under Robins and grayson weve had spells up near the top and crowds didn't grow. Unless someone else is prepared to join Dean Hoyle in chucking in loads of his money to bankrole the club and make up for the lack of support the people of the area give the club, then selling a player avery year or so for big profit it always going to be the correct strategy. We might get lucky and drop on a successful team like Blackpool and Burnley did, but thats all it was really- luck. But you can't rely on that happening so dealing in players and gradually improving the overall squad is the best , in fact only, way to go. What I meant was if we had a few seasons in or around the playoffs that crowds would grow not just a few weeks or even one season.
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