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Post by crux on Aug 29, 2015 19:29:17 GMT 1
We played well today, everyone except the front two had a good game. Miller will never become a top championship striker and the jury is still out on Wells. If we can remove Vaughan and Hammil from the wage bill then they both need to be replaced by strikers. One needs to be a championship class version of Miller - big, strong and can lead the line. The other needs to have pace and the ability to play out wide - I.e. a much better version of Danny Ward . Both need to know how to score. Talking to a couple of QPR fans on the way to the car they thought we played OK, but looked as though we'd never score and it was going to end up 0-0. I couldn't believe some of the crap spouted on radio l***s this evening - not just the 'fans' who'd obviously not been to the game and I hope never do. KOR was also being even more negative than usual! You can't just play 442 or 424 nowadays, if we'd have lined up like that today we'd have been stuffed. The game has changed massively since he last played, it's much, much faster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 19:30:48 GMT 1
Miller was once a striker that was far too good for this level. Injuries have taken his pace away and now we're left with a poor version of Emile Heksey
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 19:45:17 GMT 1
We played well today, everyone except the front two had a good game. Miller will never become a top championship striker and the jury is still out on Wells. If we can remove Vaughan and Hammil from the wage bill then they both need to be replaced by strikers. One needs to be a championship class version of Miller - big, strong and can lead the line. The other needs to have pace and the ability to play out wide - I.e. a much better version of Danny Ward . Both need to know how to score. Talking to a couple of QPR fans on the way to the car they thought we played OK, but looked as though we'd never score and it was going to end up 0-0. I couldn't believe some of the crap spouted on radio l***s this evening - not just the 'fans' who'd obviously not been to the game and I hope never do. KOR was also being even more negative than usual! You can't just play 442 or 424 nowadays, if we'd have lined up like that today we'd have been stuffed. The game has changed massively since he last played, it's much, much faster. Agree with most of what your saying, especially the two strikers needed (one simply is not enough) But I think the first half was bloody awful once again, they didn't play well. I imagine Powell enjoyed it but we couldn't even string 3 passes together, that's not playing well.. Second half was better. Half a game isn't enough though.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 19:48:22 GMT 1
We played well today, everyone except the front two had a good game. Miller will never become a top championship striker and the jury is still out on Wells. If we can remove Vaughan and Hammil from the wage bill then they both need to be replaced by strikers. One needs to be a championship class version of Miller - big, strong and can lead the line. The other needs to have pace and the ability to play out wide - I.e. a much better version of Danny Ward . Both need to know how to score. Talking to a couple of QPR fans on the way to the car they thought we played OK, but looked as though we'd never score and it was going to end up 0-0. I couldn't believe some of the crap spouted on radio l***s this evening - not just the 'fans' who'd obviously not been to the game and I hope never do. KOR was also being even more negative than usual! You can't just play 442 or 424 nowadays, if we'd have lined up like that today we'd have been stuffed. The game has changed massively since he last played, it's much, much faster. He was quite positive during the commentary.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 20:08:41 GMT 1
Miller was once a striker that was far too good for this level. Injuries have taken his pace away and now we're left with a poor version of Emile Heksey Funny that really because in ten years as a pro he's scored a total of 38 league goals and never more than 7 in a season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:12:08 GMT 1
we looked better with grant holt up front than with calamity miller
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Post by northnottsblue on Aug 29, 2015 20:16:31 GMT 1
We looked better with Alan Alan up front than with calamity miller
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:18:06 GMT 1
Miller was once a striker that was far too good for this level. Injuries have taken his pace away and now we're left with a poor version of Emile Heksey Funny that really because in ten years as a pro he's scored a total of 38 league goals and never more than 7 in a season. I remember watching him play for West Brom and he used to just go past people like they weren't there. Pace and power. Now it's just a bit of power and not much else
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Post by crux on Aug 29, 2015 20:20:49 GMT 1
we looked better with grant holt up front than with calamity miller That's the type of player we need instead of Miller- obviously younger - but someone who commands the top of the pitch, makes it difficult for the defenders and creates space for his teamates. The first four or so games he played for us were superb and what I was hoping the Miller would give us. On the comments of the match, the first half was fairly even, but after about 25/30mins we started to take control of the ball.
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Post by wtd on Aug 29, 2015 20:21:06 GMT 1
We looked better with Alan Alan up front than with calamity miller My arse!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 20:29:35 GMT 1
We looked better with Alan Alan up front than with calamity miller My arse! The comedy value was better though.
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Post by northnottsblue on Aug 29, 2015 20:37:01 GMT 1
The comedy value was better though. Got to agree with that Frankie,it was a laugh a minute with big Al
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Post by Floyds on Aug 29, 2015 20:46:53 GMT 1
Miller doesn't look like a footballer to me.
His fitness is worse than mine , his touch worse, and he'd not have scored had the game still be going.
Wells had a shocker as well - but if he gets a chance at least he may score!
Can't remember a shot on target, at home.
Struggling.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 29, 2015 20:48:51 GMT 1
Miller was once a striker that was far too good for this level. Injuries have taken his pace away and now we're left with a poor version of Emile Heksey Funny that really because in ten years as a pro he's scored a total of 38 league goals and never more than 7 in a season. Incorrect
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 20:59:54 GMT 1
Funny that really because in ten years as a pro he's scored a total of 38 league goals and never more than 7 in a season. Incorrect So the soccerbase, wkikipedia & soccerway websites are all wrong then? In that case how many league goals has he scored?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 29, 2015 21:01:18 GMT 1
So the soccerbase, wkikipedia & soccerway websites are all wrong then? In that case how many league goals has he scored? No. You're reading them wrong 10 in 19 league games for Yeovil in one season over 2 loan spells
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 21:04:23 GMT 1
So the soccerbase, wkikipedia & soccerway websites are all wrong then? In that case how many league goals has he scored? No. You're reading them wrong 10 in 19 league games for Yeovil in one season over 2 loan spells Ok I'll trust you on that but its hardly a great record for a striker is it!?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 29, 2015 21:20:00 GMT 1
No. You're reading them wrong 10 in 19 league games for Yeovil in one season over 2 loan spells Ok I'll trust you on that but its hardly a great record for a striker is it!? Agree but 10 in 19 in a struggling team isn't so bad. Imagine he had been there the full season. Look I'd rather not see Miller as one of our first choice strikers either but I've also seen him do a job for us many times.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 21:22:26 GMT 1
Ok I'll trust you on that but its hardly a great record for a striker is it!? Agree but 1 0 in 19 in a struggling team isn't so bad. Imagine he had been there the full season. Look I'd rather not see Miller as one of our first choice strikers either but I've also seen him do a job for us many times. Taken on its own that's pretty good but looking at his career on the whole its not good reading and we need far better if we are to progress.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 29, 2015 21:24:21 GMT 1
Agree but 1 0 in 19 in a struggling team isn't so bad. Imagine he had been there the full season. Look I'd rather not see Miller as one of our first choice strikers either but I've also seen him do a job for us many times. Taken on its own that's pretty good but looking at his career on the whole its not good reading and we need far better if we are to progress. Like I say. He wouldn't be in my first eleven. I think he is holding Wells back currently. Should be used as an impact sub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 22:57:39 GMT 1
I think folk are being a bit harsh on Miller myself, He has run himself into the ground every game I have seen him this season, He seems to have held the ball up or got a touch on it more often than not to me.
Wells needs to get closer to him when we are hitting it up to Miller.
Wells is the one I think looks out of sorts, Hula hoop could have been a decent back up/comp for Nahki, Well he was till last week.
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Post by terrierpark on Aug 29, 2015 23:01:02 GMT 1
The only place Miller would look good is Ponderosa
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 29, 2015 23:08:47 GMT 1
We played well today, everyone except the front two had a good game. Miller will never become a top championship striker and the jury is still out on Wells. If we can remove Vaughan and Hammil from the wage bill then they both need to be replaced by strikers. One needs to be a championship class version of Miller - big, strong and can lead the line. The other needs to have pace and the ability to play out wide - I.e. a much better version of Danny Ward . Both need to know how to score. Talking to a couple of QPR fans on the way to the car they thought we played OK, but looked as though we'd never score and it was going to end up 0-0. I couldn't believe some of the crap spouted on radio l***s this evening - not just the 'fans' who'd obviously not been to the game and I hope never do. KOR was also being even more negative than usual! You can't just play 442 or 424 nowadays, if we'd have lined up like that today we'd have been stuffed. The game has changed massively since he last played, it's much, much faster. Just back and that's more or less what I thought. We played well and created an excellent platform for Wells and Miller. They were put into some good positions around the box. Good strikers with Championship quality would have taken some of those opportunities on and got us ahead.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Aug 29, 2015 23:20:34 GMT 1
Not many striker options out there, we might be best going for someone on loan from a premiership club and accept having yo pay them good wages.
Kermogant ?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 29, 2015 23:40:52 GMT 1
Not many striker options out there, we might be best going for someone on loan from a premiership club and accept having yo pay them good wages. Kermogant ? Yes we need at least one of the quality of kermogant like we did with holt last season.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Aug 30, 2015 15:40:46 GMT 1
I think folk are being a bit harsh on Miller myself, He has run himself into the ground every game I have seen him this season, He seems to have held the ball up or got a touch on it more often than not to me. Wells needs to get closer to him when we are hitting it up to Miller. Wells is the one I think looks out of sorts, Hula hoop could have been a decent back up/comp for Nahki, Well he was till last week. Trouble is he's run into the ground after 10 minutes. For a well built 6ft plus lad he's absoloutely soft as shit. Absoloutely dreadful, makes me look back and think Alan Lee wasn't that shit after all.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 30, 2015 17:44:58 GMT 1
Ok I'll trust you on that but its hardly a great record for a striker is it!? Agree but 10 in 19 in a struggling team isn't so bad. Imagine he had been there the full season. Look I'd rather not see Miller as one of our first choice strikers either but I've also seen him do a job for us many times. Take them away and his goals/game ratio is even worse Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 17:57:40 GMT 1
I think folk are being a bit harsh on Miller myself, He has run himself into the ground every game I have seen him this season, He seems to have held the ball up or got a touch on it more often than not to me. Wells needs to get closer to him when we are hitting it up to Miller. Wells is the one I think looks out of sorts, Hula hoop could have been a decent back up/comp for Nahki, Well he was till last week. Trouble is he's run into the ground after 10 minutes. For a well built 6ft plus lad he's absoloutely soft as shit. Absoloutely dreadful, makes me look back and think Alan Lee wasn't that shit after all. Alan lee really! I know big ish ain't the best but alan lee was well and truly shit
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 30, 2015 18:37:01 GMT 1
I think once the window closes we'll start to see Miller used more as an impact sub, providing we bring in the right striker(s) He played that role quite well last season.
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Post by northnottsblue on Aug 30, 2015 18:44:37 GMT 1
Trouble is he's run into the ground after 10 minutes. For a well built 6ft plus lad he's absoloutely soft as shit. Absoloutely dreadful, makes me look back and think Alan Lee wasn't that shit after all. Alan lee really! I know big ish ain't the best but alan lee was well and truly shit The only way to avoid relegation,bring back big Al,elbows an all !!!!!!!!
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