Three issues to resolve

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1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

[goodshot (FGS)]

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

Not sure there are any quick fixes for the academy - but I agree with the rest.

PS ... and you didn't list the most important item ... a striker who is good outside the box as well as in it ... we do need one. Yesterday the team gave the strikers a decent platform but they couldn't take it on.

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Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

PS. well done the support behind the goal again.

[townatheart]

good post, although it is unlikely that those who most need to read it properly and understand your points will take it on board

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Aug 30, 2015 10:50:11 GMT 1 townatheart said:

good post, although it is unlikely that those who most need to read it properly and understand your points will take it on board

I hope they do having over 55 years experience both coaching and as a referee i have seen a lot and any sensible person while may be disagreeing with some points would overall see the justifacation of the issues ive raised

[galpharm2400]

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town




The above is merely the 'nice and jolly' version of we need to score and stop them scoring and the Academy is a bit shite.

Supporting the club on here without paying and attending is pretty much a waste of your time apart from the 'jolly' version.

Persistent moaning didnt sign Miller up and didnt makes us switch off yesterday and conceded against a team who did little and had even less enthusiasm to win it than us.

waving your and singing loudly in the south stand wont cut it im afraid..

could and should have more points is pretty meaningless unless some of the performances have been very good and for whatever reason the result went against us, they havent been.

yesterday was workmanlike and adequate for a goal less draw which we failed to get in the end..

I dont know how excited you can get about that but as 11k watched it unfold and saw it about to happen, I guess you would have 'taken the draw before the game'

We are setting low targets and failing to achieve them. Its not bile or tripe just stating the bleeding obvious...

[terriersyndrome]

Probably nothing in it but Redfearn seems to be attending all our home games.. He was there again yesterday by all accounts.

[htfc63]

Overall we did play better yesterday however as you say we are dire in the last third of the pitch. Speaking to Kieran O`Reagan yesterday its clear that our academy is up against it. I go to nearly every under 21 game and we play against kids who are just starting out whereas in the past Keiran when playing in the reserves played against the likes of Pat Jennings and other excellent players which meant there was a much more competitive and higher level of football being played.
You are right positive that we kept our shape better and played some entertaining football however what I would lay at Powells door is the apparent lack of urgency to get men in the box when we attack. QPR had three men who ran like hell up the pitch and could have scored their gaol whereas we do a gently jog up the pitch to support what normally is a lone striker.
Equally you are right that we did not deserve to lose however we also did not deserve to win as Green had little to do except pull out a few crosses from corners.
I do hope that Powell is supported in getting a striker in however so far he has brought in 7 players who apart from Davidson look to add little improvement to the squad.

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Aug 30, 2015 11:09:29 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town




The above is merely the 'nice and jolly' version of we need to score and stop them scoring and the Academy is a bit shite.

Supporting the club on here without paying and attending is pretty much a waste of your time apart from the 'jolly' version.

Persistent moaning didnt sign Miller up and didnt makes us switch off yesterday and conceded against a team who did little and had even less enthusiasm to win it than us.

waving your and singing loudly in the south stand wont cut it im afraid..

could and should have more points is pretty meaningless unless some of the performances have been very good and for whatever reason the result went against us, they havent been.

yesterday was workmanlike and adequate for a goal less draw which we failed to get in the end..

I dont know how excited you can get about that but as 11k watched it unfold and saw it about to happen, I guess you would have 'taken the draw before the game'

We are setting low targets and failing to achieve them. Its not bile or tripe just stating the bleeding obvious...

Its not the nice and jolly version as you put it but your fotball interlect comes through loud and clear.butyou are entitled to your view.

[townatheart]

Aug 30, 2015 11:09:29 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town




The above is merely the 'nice and jolly' version of we need to score and stop them scoring and the Academy is a bit shite.

Supporting the club on here without paying and attending is pretty much a waste of your time apart from the 'jolly' version.

Persistent moaning didnt sign Miller up and didnt makes us switch off yesterday and conceded against a team who did little and had even less enthusiasm to win it than us.

waving your and singing loudly in the south stand wont cut it im afraid..

could and should have more points is pretty meaningless unless some of the performances have been very good and for whatever reason the result went against us, they havent been.

yesterday was workmanlike and adequate for a goal less draw which we failed to get in the end..

I dont know how excited you can get about that but as 11k watched it unfold and saw it about to happen, I guess you would have 'taken the draw before the game'

We are setting low targets and failing to achieve them. Its not bile or tripe just stating the bleeding obvious...

1. I rest my case !
2. Although, likewise, if you take some of the 'tone' out of the post, there is some validity in what Galph says also (sorry Galph lad I am an insufferable happy clapper that likes to a lot I guess)

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Aug 30, 2015 11:14:17 GMT 1 htfc63 said:

Overall we did play better yesterday however as you say we are dire in the last third of the pitch. Speaking to Kieran O`Reagan yesterday its clear that our academy is up against it. I go to nearly every under 21 game and we play against kids who are just starting out whereas in the past Keiran when playing in the reserves played against the likes of Pat Jennings and other excellent players which meant there was a much more competitive and higher level of football being played.
You are right positive that we kept our shape better and played some entertaining football however what I would lay at Powells door is the apparent lack of urgency to get men in the box when we attack. QPR had three men who ran like hell up the pitch and could have scored their gaol whereas we do a gently jog up the pitch to support what normally is a lone striker.
Equally you are right that we did not deserve to lose however we also did not deserve to win as Green had little to do except pull out a few crosses from corners.
I do hope that Powell is supported in getting a striker in however so far he has brought in 7 players who apart from Davidson look to add little improvement to the squad.

Agood balanced reply with some good points but its a bit to early to judge yet on the new lads but overall you make good sensible points

[Deleted]

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

I admire your positivity I really do but I feel this 'holding our own' notion is part of the problem. In football you have to try to win some games. After attending all the home games so far, I'm not seeing a side or a manager who look like they think they have a cat in hells chance of obtaining 3 points. The players do not look confident, they don't express themselves, they don't pass and move with any conviction, they're static. Its negative to watch, its easy to defend against and its frustrating.

This is why people moan, quite justifiably in my opinion. All I want to see is Chris Powell try to pick a side/tactics with a bit more attacking purpose, instil a bit of belief into the players, let the likes of Scannell, Butterfield, Lolley, Wells, Dempsey (I wish), do what they're good at and stop showing every team we play (including Notts County) so much respect. Otherwise, I can't see us ever scoring more than 1 goal per game and thus, we will barely ever win in this division.

[wigster]

I normally agree with what you say Goodshot but I can't really understand why you feel that the team "gave the strikers a decent platform" - I thought that Wells battled manfully for the first half hour although he's not at his best with the type of long balls from Lynch and Hudson that even Andy Booth might have struggled with (how often do we see Hogg and Whitehead just pass the ball back to our centre halves ?). Wells, as often happens, then got frustrated and became worse and worse as the match wore on.

Miller is limited - for a big man he is so poor in the air - but to be fair to both of them they were often the only two players within 30 yards of the opposition's penalty area, unlike every team that we play against. I'm a great Scanz fan and his delivery can be poor but again he'd beat his man look up to cross and see six QPR players in the box with just our two strikers there.

For me Wells, for all his faults, is the only decent striker we have at the club - Vaughan used to be excellent but for whatever reason hasn't earned his wages for two seasons - and I certainly agree that we need at least one, ideally two more. But so much more pressing is the need to support whichever strikers we do play. Butterfield and Scannell do this but nobody else. I agree with most that Hogg and Whitehead did their jobs well yesterday but what jobs are they? To be destructive and intercept passes, be industrious etc and little else. They look terrified when they receive the hot potato of the ball and it's no exaggeration to say that 80-90% of their passes are backwards or sideways - and they're the central midfield pairing ! It therefore leaves only Butterfield and Scannell to create something. If Wells or Miller were missing chances galore I'd understand the criticism of them but they weren't the reason that Green was rarely tested yesterday - the defensive lets-stop-the-opposition-scoring-and-try-and-sneak-a-goal philosophy is.

Yes I agree that yesterday our strikers could have been better outside the box but isn't their main job inside the box? I watched QPR's goal again on TV last night and when they scored they had four players in our box and two just outside it (as with most teams they had a bloody sight more stamina than we have) - we never attack like that, until we've inevitably conceded and we then yesterday we pushed Lynch and a knackered Whitehead up.
Sorry to go on but I think most supporters at 3.00 yesterday knew what type of timorous game we were going to get and we got it. Unfortunately the opposition equally know.. QPR were just a bit more patient/less good than many that have taken the 1 or 3 points at the John Smiths so scored the winner just a bit later than many teams. To be fair to Town the effort was there - until they tired at 70 mins - but the "we're busting a gut to WIN this" approach wasn't.

[detox]

Personally I think Powell is doing the best he can with what he has ..our traditionally chaotic defence has been shored up with bodies rather than talent..the consequence of that is we lack bodies in the right areas when we attack. As stated above, QPR has plenty of bodies up for their breakaway goal...we don't. Some of the dallying on the ball, and misplaced passes might be down to lack of decent options due to lack of support players.. It's an ongoing problem of lack of quality ..and most teams we are playing have more quality, man for man, than we do. It's ok Dean saying we must 'over achieve' but for lads lacking in the required talent/vision..just aimlessly running about doesn't do it.

The phrase silk purse and cow's ear come to mind, and tbh we've always seemed to lack the final pieces of the jigsaw... I don't think we are far off but we're always going to struggle without the required quality. The issue of course is money, or the lack of it..although the initial plan Dean seems to have is to get the books balanced first while we just try and hold our Championship status..and maybe after that we can splash a bit more money around..that plan seems to be coming unstuck as we see gates now 2,000 lower than last season..that's over £1m in lost receipts..so the job is getting harder. I don't know what the asnwer is because simply saying Dean should splash more cash seems a bit unfair.

[galpharm2400]

Aug 30, 2015 11:21:17 GMT 1 @positive said:

Aug 30, 2015 11:14:17 GMT 1 htfc63 said:

Overall we did play better yesterday however as you say we are dire in the last third of the pitch. Speaking to Kieran O`Reagan yesterday its clear that our academy is up against it. I go to nearly every under 21 game and we play against kids who are just starting out whereas in the past Keiran when playing in the reserves played against the likes of Pat Jennings and other excellent players which meant there was a much more competitive and higher level of football being played.
You are right positive that we kept our shape better and played some entertaining football however what I would lay at Powells door is the apparent lack of urgency to get men in the box when we attack. QPR had three men who ran like hell up the pitch and could have scored their gaol whereas we do a gently jog up the pitch to support what normally is a lone striker.
Equally you are right that we did not deserve to lose however we also did not deserve to win as Green had little to do except pull out a few crosses from corners.
I do hope that Powell is supported in getting a striker in however so far he has brought in 7 players who apart from Davidson look to add little improvement to the squad.

Agood balanced reply with some good points but its a bit to early to judge yet on the new lads but overall you make good sensible points

Im glad you approve of these good balanced replies..  it will make relegation a much nicer place for all if we all agree we are a smashing club that just couldnt cut it in this league.

you have watched footie for a long time?  since when was it 'sensible'?

we bring in another striker, drop wells or miller??

great we have a different bloke on his own in the box during open play ??

we deserved to lose because we didnt do enough at either end to win the game.

This it will be ok if we just back Powell and cheer louder and hope something comes right on its own, is becoming a little odd, to say the least.

A few teams will lose games against us this year if we carry on in this vein but we wont 'win' enough.

[Chips Longhorn]

I think there has to be a question as to whether this manager is the best one to see us move forward.. If the board feel he is they need to get right behind him and guarantee him a period where his job is not under threat .. If they don't , well obviously.......

[jqhtfc]

Just can't see it working out for Powell here unfortunately, seems a nice bloke and that but it's a results based business and he's not getting them!

[Big Ern]

There is no way that manager and those players should feel any negativity. Where it matters most, in that stadium the fans have been nothing but vocal and positive.

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Aug 30, 2015 11:57:15 GMT 1 jqhtfc said:

Just can't see it working out for Powell here unfortunately, seems a nice bloke and that but it's a results based business and he's not getting them!

you are correct it is a result based industry and you have to get results and at the end of the day you are judged on them my point is that given the restraints hes working two he is doing a decent job and i believe we will pick up. if not im sure the change will be made

[dewsburyterrier]

I think the first team playing budget should be for the manager to spend. It is his job that is under pressure so he should be allowed to allocate the budget to players he wants and feels are first team quality. If the club want to speculate on a couple of younger prospects then so be it, but this shouldn't be paid for out of the manager's first team budget.

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Aug 30, 2015 14:24:56 GMT 1 dewsburyterrier said:

I think the first team playing budget should be for the manager to spend. It is his job that is under pressure so he should be allowed to allocate the budget to players he wants and feels are first team quality. If the club want to speculate on a couple of younger prospects then so be it, but this shouldn't be paid for out of the manager's first team budget.

a very good point

[Big Ern]

I can't help but think that if Deano weren't gaining a reputation for sacking managers often then Powell would have bitten the bullet or would be biting the bullet very soon. Grayson was sacked with an equally poor record and Robins although technically wasn't sacked also was on a poor run.

I like Powell, decent bloke but I don't know how much more I can take of not winning games never mind Dean.

[Deleted]

The fans have been behind the manager but they can only wait so long. Powell has had 43 games with us now, almost an entire season and has a 27.91% win rate, only Ternent had lower in recent years. Pretty sure I was told (a stats person can double check) that we're on the second longest run without a win out of the 92 teams after Blackpool. Just 9 clean sheets under his tenure too.

Realistically how much more time are fans willing to give him? 5 games to gel the new loanees into the team? As well as Whitehead and Hogg did yesterday you'd have thought CP would have realised by now that we can't win games playing both of them, they effectively do the same defensive job.

I understand we are under restraints and can't compete with the big spenders but I honestly don't feel the squad is bad at all, it's the tactics that are letting us down, and the guaranteed defensive balls up that we have every game.

The football is getting slowly better but we just can't seem to win games, 1 shot on target yesterday despite probably being the better team sums that up.

I like Powell but it's getting increasingly difficult to keep backing him to turn things around. Pen this down as a 'moan' if you want, but it's not meant to be, it's just an honest factually based statement.

Having said that, it is up to us as fans to try and spur the players on too. Atmosphere was great yesterday.

[ritchie]

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

What about those who havent?

[terrierpark]

I will tell you the three things that need to happen to turn things round


1. When money is available , either at the start of a season or after a sale of a player, Deano needs to sanction spending according to the team needs, before players are purchased for the future ie purely with the purpose to sell on and make money on. We have for too long soldiered on expecting to do ok when there are defficiencies in the first 11. Given our defence and to some extent our strikeforce Jordi and Dempsey should not have been purchased. At least one centre back and a rt back is required. So we ignored this in the summer and even after Smithies was forced out the money raised has not gone where needed. So just to be clear.... i am not asking for deano to spend more than what he would have done anyway just address the problems of the present ,before taking a punt on the future.
I get developing players and selling them on is what we do but to say this is our FOURTH season in this division we do not have alot to show for it in terms of quality, because this model does not allow team building.
2. We are far better on the attack than defending. For long periods yesterday we held possession well but the danger /threat level of us scoring was negligible. With Vaughan on his way a striker is urgently needed as well as better ammunition and support. Cp needs to play more attacking football at home and make far better use of his subs and it is begining to look like he is entrenched in his methods and will not deviate from them. He needs to be told, if he wont be told then BFH. Our resources our limited his tactics limit us furtrher.
3. The team need to work harder and train harder. All our dead ball situations but 1 were wofeul. corners floated in , free kicks wasted.
Does CP take the training or is it his assistant? Do we have a variation on a corner or free kick,.. because you wouldnt know it.

I was told the other day we have only 3 wins in 23 games, which is a pathetic statistic and its hardly surprising our crowds are dwindling.
As the Stranglers sang, "Something better change"

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Aug 30, 2015 16:30:06 GMT 1 ritchie said:

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

What about those who havent?

With the greatest respect they are entitled to here opinions but they dont hold much sway.

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Aug 30, 2015 20:58:23 GMT 1 @positive said:

Aug 30, 2015 16:30:06 GMT 1 ritchie said:

What about those who havent?

With the greatest respect they are entitled to here opinions but they dont hold much sway.

CANeveryone calm down see what develops because nothing is done yet in or out and then asses when the deadline closes.

[softboy]

To compare CPs win rate in the Championship (you say 27.91%) against managers in League 1 is a load of rubbish - it is like saying Sean Diche was a fantastic manager two seasons ago as they won promotion to the Premier League but last year he became an awful manager as they got relegated.

[softboy]

You forgot the fourth issue - the vast majority of people in Huddersfield are really not interested in the club - and yes I know I have mentioned this on numerous threads but the fact remains we are a small band of dedicated town fans (DH included) but no more.And we have to cut our cloth accordingly.

[Tanzanian Terrier]

Aug 30, 2015 10:31:41 GMT 1 @positive said:

1. The club needs to support Chris Powell given the restraints he is working under.Dean as to balance the books and is overall doing a great job as owner of the club.
2. In my view the academy needs a fresh impetus as we are not producing atthe moment and for me Neil Redfearn should be brought in with Mark Working alongside him when it costs around ten thousand a week to run we need to have more to show for it.
3.With the five league games we have played we have more than held our own and could and should have more points than we have at the moment.
Reading and hearing some of the bile against the manager is pathetic and while i understand the frustration dont think the manager and players dont feel it as well.We do need to be more clinical in the last third of the pitch and quality of balls into the box need to be better.

Anyone who has played the game knows that yesterday we were generally solid kept our shape well but we have to have a end product and for me another striker is a must before the deadline or a loan after it. No way in a million years did we deserve to lose but the one chance they had they took but the over reaction to some fans

is im afraid typical of a lot of so called town fans they should engage there brain before spouting the tripe they do because while everyone is entitled to there point of view some of it on here iswell below the belt but thats the way it is unfortunatly.

Ibelieve it could get worse before better but im sure we will turn it round and stay up but lets give the club our backing because we may have some difficult decisions to make over the next couple of days but its support we need not persistent moaning.Up The Town

Concise, accurate, to the point and very true.