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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 1, 2015 23:06:03 GMT 1
Bristol City signed 2 decent CBs today. Shame we didn't rival them. They have been snubbed all Summer. Tin pot club thinking they're bigger than they are. Not saying they wouldn't have been decent, but aren't they loans, which you're not an advocate of?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:05:48 GMT 1
Ah so a 2-3 million pound midfielder just sitting there in case Butterfield goes. Magic - must be nice in your magical world full of unicorns and rainbows. You line up a replacement before you sell, not after. Note the term "line up" doesn't me sign straight away. It's marking your targets incase your player leaves. Don't be naive, we've made a faux pas not getting a proper replacement. How do you know our replacement's weren't lined up and ready to sign yesterday? 24 hours is a long time in football. Who's the naïve one?
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Post by ritchie on Sept 1, 2015 23:10:54 GMT 1
clubs around the world do there home work and have an idea if one of their players is going to leave. Town have had a few weeks to come to terms with the chance Butterfield could be leaving as Hoyle stated in his examiner interview (said Butterfield's head was turned and he didn't want to play for us anymore. What worries me is that we had no player lined up to replace him once a deal was reached with Derby. We have huws, dempsey and paterson who can all play that position.... not to mention Holmes and Lolley.
I don't think butterfield needed replacing.
The major concern is the board haven't addressed the problems with the defense or after basically giving vaughan a shove out the door, they have failed to bring in a goalscorer.... I was disappointed we didn't bring in Doyle, thought he would be a good foil for wells. They should have been planning these transfers for months. It just smacks of poor planning and a poor understanding of the areas of weakness of the team. The majority of 11,000 fans cannot be wrong surely. Spot on for me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:15:51 GMT 1
Oh no we lost out on Moore and Baker on loan... ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:20:43 GMT 1
You line up a replacement before you sell, not after. Note the term "line up" doesn't me sign straight away. It's marking your targets incase your player leaves. Don't be naive, we've made a faux pas not getting a proper replacement. How do you know our replacement's weren't lined up and ready to sign yesterday? 24 hours is a long time in football. Who's the naïve one? Well because they would have signed wouldn't they???
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 1, 2015 23:30:47 GMT 1
Ah so a 2-3 million pound midfielder just sitting there in case Butterfield goes. Magic - must be nice in your magical world full of unicorns and rainbows. You line up a replacement before you sell, not after. Note the term "line up" doesn't me sign straight away. It's marking your targets incase your player leaves. Don't be naive, we've made a faux pas not getting a proper replacement. Apart from Huws and Paterson you mean? You wanted 3 midfielders to replace Butterfield? I'm confused.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:36:40 GMT 1
How do you know our replacement's weren't lined up and ready to sign yesterday? 24 hours is a long time in football. Who's the naïve one? Well because they would have signed wouldn't they??? Not when other clubs are also vying for them. Why hang around on the off chance?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:49:08 GMT 1
Well because they would have signed wouldn't they??? Not when other clubs are also vying for them. Why hang around on the off chance? But contrary to whatever the club said, it was common knowledge of the "reliable posters" on DATM that he was off so obviously the club new there would be a deal...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 23:53:38 GMT 1
Not when other clubs are also vying for them. Why hang around on the off chance? But contrary to whatever the club said, it was common knowledge of the "reliable posters" on DATM that he was off so obviously the club new there would be a deal... Yes, but until the deal is made you can't sign a replacement. Too late, he's signed for (insert name of Championship team).
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 0:43:58 GMT 1
Not when other clubs are also vying for them. Why hang around on the off chance? But contrary to whatever the club said, it was common knowledge of the "reliable posters" on DATM that he was off so obviously the club new there would be a deal... So did Man Utd and that didn't work out well did it. You're not having a good night are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 1:55:14 GMT 1
But contrary to whatever the club said, it was common knowledge of the "reliable posters" on DATM that he was off so obviously the club new there would be a deal... So did Man Utd and that didn't work out well did it. You're not having a good night are you? You can use all the excuses you want, not having a replacement for Butterfield LINED UP was criminal
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Post by ringdisco on Sept 2, 2015 2:00:03 GMT 1
You line up a replacement before you sell, not after. Note the term "line up" doesn't me sign straight away. It's marking your targets incase your player leaves. Don't be naive, we've made a faux pas not getting a proper replacement. Apart from Huws and Paterson you mean? You wanted 3 midfielders to replace Butterfield? I'm confused. Huws replaced Coady.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 2:00:09 GMT 1
But contrary to whatever the club said, it was common knowledge of the "reliable posters" on DATM that he was off so obviously the club new there would be a deal... Yes, but until the deal is made you can't sign a replacement. Too late, he's signed for (insert name of Championship team). I never said sign em before we sold Butterfield did I? I'm saying we should have been in preliminary talks with targets as soon as we aware that Derby were gonna come back in for him
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 2:14:17 GMT 1
Apart from Huws and Paterson you mean? You wanted 3 midfielders to replace Butterfield? I'm confused. Huws replaced Coady. I'd like to agree with you but that would make us both wrong
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 2:14:49 GMT 1
Yes, but until the deal is made you can't sign a replacement. Too late, he's signed for (insert name of Championship team). I never said sign em before we sold Butterfield did I? I'm saying we should have been in preliminary talks with targets as soon as we aware that Derby were gonna come back in for him Like Paterson you mean? You're arguing against yourself now.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2015 2:15:05 GMT 1
Who replaced who is irrelevant really..
Huws, whitehead, dempsey and paterson have come in and butts, coady and gobern have gone out...how havent we replaced butterfield? With an individual as good as him? Maybe not, but he's one of the best in the division
Its other areas that needed strengthening more
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Post by ringdisco on Sept 2, 2015 2:16:31 GMT 1
I'd like to agree with you but that would make us both wrong shrug
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 2:19:35 GMT 1
I'd like to agree with you but that would make us both wrong shrug List midfielders out against midfielders in - I think the number in is greater.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 2:37:53 GMT 1
I never said sign em before we sold Butterfield did I? I'm saying we should have been in preliminary talks with targets as soon as we aware that Derby were gonna come back in for him Like Paterson you mean? You're arguing against yourself now. Ah yes, of course, you mean the Paterson who's a Winger/AMC?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 2:39:56 GMT 1
List midfielders out against midfielders in - I think the number in is greater. You do realise "Midfielder" is an umbrella term for a variety positions?
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 2:58:31 GMT 1
Like Paterson you mean? You're arguing against yourself now. Ah yes, of course, you mean the Paterson who's a Winger/AMC? Butterfield scored 6 goals last season - what do you class him as?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 2:59:56 GMT 1
Ah yes, of course, you mean the Paterson who's a Winger/AMC? Butterfield scored 6 goals last season - what do you class him as? Central Midfielder like everyone else with a brain.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 3:23:13 GMT 1
Butterfield scored 6 goals last season - what do you class him as? Central Midfielder like everyone else with a brain. So we signed a central midfielder.... Thanks - knew we'd end up both happy.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 2, 2015 6:59:42 GMT 1
So did Man Utd and that didn't work out well did it. You're not having a good night are you? You can use all the excuses you want, not having a replacement for Butterfield LINED UP was criminal Remember when JR left close to the deadline? The replacements were on loan then as well, until the club felt they could get a good deal on a permanent signing. Huws may be that loan replacement, especially bearing in mind that we knew Butterfield was going when he came in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 7:58:05 GMT 1
Yes, but until the deal is made you can't sign a replacement. Too late, he's signed for (insert name of Championship team). I never said sign em before we sold Butterfield did I? I'm saying we should have been in preliminary talks with targets as soon as we aware that Derby were gonna come back in for him As I said, how do you know we weren't having talks with half a dozen potential Butterfield replacements? That doesn't get them over the line until you say 'sign here'...and they do. Anyway as already been said, Paterson is not tagged as purely a winger, both him and Huws can play in midfield / forward positions.
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Post by thomo on Sept 2, 2015 8:02:21 GMT 1
You can use all the excuses you want, not having a replacement for Butterfield LINED UP was criminal Remember when JR left close to the deadline? The replacements were on loan then as well, until the club felt they could get a good deal on a permanent signing. Huws may be that loan replacement, especially bearing in mind that we knew Butterfield was going when he came in. Trouble is we couldn't afford beckford at the end of his loan and I can see a similar thing happening this time with the loan players we'd like to keep leaving due to high wage demands, leaving huge gaps in the side and yet more disruption next summer. think we've struggled to find a better strike partner for Vaughan ever since
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 2, 2015 8:21:45 GMT 1
Who replaced who is irrelevant really..
Huws, whitehead, dempsey and paterson have come in and butts, coady and gobern have gone out...how havent we replaced butterfield? With an individual as good as him? Maybe not, but he's one of the best in the division
Its other areas that needed strengthening more THIS!
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Post by buckers on Sept 2, 2015 8:55:29 GMT 1
Huws, Paterson and Muzzy have signed? I thought they were loans that can go back to their actual clubs at the end of the season.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2015 9:02:19 GMT 1
List midfielders out against midfielders in - I think the number in is greater. You do realise "Midfielder" is an umbrella term for a variety positions? as is utility defender and forward??? jack of all trades master of fuck all..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 9:11:01 GMT 1
Huws, Paterson and Muzzy have signed? I thought they were loans that can go back to their actual clubs at the end of the season. Paterson's contract runs out at the end of this season and there is no recall clause, if we want him then we get him (subject to terms of course)
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