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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 12:44:43 GMT 1
He didn't command a fee and the club could claim a transfer. Early days, but he doesn't look any better in the position where we had so many, that we got rid of one and brought 2 in PR type bollocks. Just checking, you've never seen him play, have you? Yawn...
Would it be better if I said "doesn't sound any better"?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 12:51:31 GMT 1
Just checking, you've never seen him play, have you? Yawn...
Would it be better if I said "doesn't sound any better"?
I suppose it's just jealousy on my part - I've never seen Elvis Manu play, so I don't feel in any position to suggest he's a really good signing, totally hopeless, or somewhere inbetween. I want to be able to hold such strident views, like you do, on the someone's footballing ability that I've never actually seen play football. Are you also able to review books you haven't read and films you haven't seen?
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Post by impact on Feb 7, 2016 13:09:48 GMT 1
I could only find 1 assist across various stat sites, but they and I may be wrong. Either way I do get frustrated with him when he has a dig over passing to what I see as a better placed team mate. Fuck knows how Bunn has assists to his name, he's far greedier then Wells and a worse finisher. He can't pass and never looks up Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Possibly because he does pass and does look up, but people see his unpolished style and think he can't play football. I really like Lolley but despite him looking great on the eye Bunn is a much more effective player than him.
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Post by muckyfat on Feb 7, 2016 13:22:36 GMT 1
Harry bunn second season in championship football,c'mon he's not finished article yet but my money on him becoming one of our top players, got things about his game most don't have. Wagner says he's exactly his kind of player ands signs him on a long contract so I'm happy to be of similar opinion to our boss
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 7, 2016 13:44:32 GMT 1
Harry bunn second season in championship football,c'mon he's not finished article yet but my money on him becoming one of our top players, got things about his game most don't have. Wagner says he's exactly his kind of player ands signs him on a long contract so I'm happy to be of similar opinion to our boss Said it before- most erratic player I've known. Can be really effective in creating chances, as the stats back-up. Some games he's great at turning and running at the defence. Just the next minute he's inexplicably falling over and/or the ball is bouncing 10 yards off him. Probably fits with the results- can make a difference, which is why we score a lot, but puts the defence under pressure losing the ball when he really shouldn't. Anyway, he's at least a top game changer from the bench.
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Post by captainblack on Feb 7, 2016 15:37:58 GMT 1
And part of me is wondering how on earth we lost that - we bossed the game - had more possession, created numerous excellent chances, and like at the John Smiths made Preston look what I think they are - a very limited but organised route-one team that keeps plugging away. Believe me if we had won by 3 or 4 it would not have been unrepresentative. The rational part of me however knows why we didn't win - we cannot defend properly and we have no clinical finisher - Wells is the nearest but he missed at least two "easy" chances today. It's relatively simple - you cannot give the opposition at least two goals most weeks and expect anything. The chances? Early in the first half Bunn was through but shot straight at the goalkeeper (we see that a lot don't we Harry) and Lynch sent a pilediver from distance that beat the goalie but hit the crossbar - a superb effort. In the second half Wells sent two shots straight at the goalkeeper, and one wide, and Paterson shot at the goalkeeper when he should have scored. Bunn missed one and missed a glorious chance to put Wells or Paterson through. Smith had time to pick his spot but shot wide. We're not talking difficult chances here but ones that it would be reasonable to expect capable finishers to score from. Other observations - I haven't seen Billing before very much but he looked absolute class today - controls the ball instantly, is comfortable with it and makes time for himself, a range of passes - I thought he had a superb game. Our central defenders generally did well, particularly Cranie in the air and Lynch on the ground. Negatives - for me. Lolley looked rusty and did very little. Wells - our best finisher by a mile but he does miss them regularly. Paterson - in some matches looks classy and in others lightweight - he disappeared for long stretches today and seems a bit of a luxury. Bunn - how on earth is he picked for every match ? He wastes so much possession. No doubt someone will say that he leads the assists table or something but week in week out he runs into trouble, misses chances and could literally have double the number of assists with a bit more skill. It's all about opinions but he is miles away from being a Championship player. One last gripe - the few times Preston did look dangerous it was from set plays - I think it's true to say that we never created a sniff of anything from our free-kicks. In conclusion, Wagner has got us playing some lovely stuff and next season we might put teams like Preston to the sword but with this season's squad, if it's not added to, I can see us being pulled into the relegation fight. I think we're gambling on other teams being worse than us. I think I understand why we didn't strengthen recently but we're taking a risk. Great post Wigster I did not attend yesterdays game but I really appreciate your last comment , we are really risking it and I hope it does not end in tears. I think we should just squeak through this season but I have a feeling it could be tighter than we all think.When DW first entered the scene I thought we may have a comfortable position at the end of the season . I am always pretty positive but am not quite as sure how things will pan out this season.
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Post by ACW on Feb 7, 2016 15:44:16 GMT 1
Harry bunn second season in championship football,c'mon he's not finished article yet but my money on him becoming one of our top players, got things about his game most don't have. Wagner says he's exactly his kind of player ands signs him on a long contract so I'm happy to be of similar opinion to our boss Said it before- most erratic player I've known. Can be really effective in creating chances, as the stats back-up. Some games he's great at turning and running at the defence. Just the next minute he's inexplicably falling over and/or the ball is bouncing 10 yards off him. Probably fits with the results- can make a difference, which is why we score a lot, but puts the defence under pressure losing the ball when he really shouldn't. Anyway, he's at least a top game changer from the bench. That's pretty much my opinion. Can go from brilliant to frustrating in the blink of an eye. Sometimes looks out of his depth, but often proves very effective. Last home game is a case in point. Misses a simple chance, but assists Wells for his goal and scores a cracker at the end. I wish he'd get his head up a bit more, and his touch sometimes let's him down, but there's no doubt he's often very effective for us. And hopefully Wagner will be able to work on his game so he gets even better for us.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 7, 2016 15:51:07 GMT 1
Harry bunn second season in championship football,c'mon he's not finished article yet but my money on him becoming one of our top players, got things about his game most don't have. Wagner says he's exactly his kind of player ands signs him on a long contract so I'm happy to be of similar opinion to our boss Said it before- most erratic player I've known. Can be really effective in creating chances, as the stats back-up. Some games he's great at turning and running at the defence. Just the next minute he's inexplicably falling over and/or the ball is bouncing 10 yards off him. Probably fits with the results- can make a difference, which is why we score a lot, but puts the defence under pressure losing the ball when he really shouldn't. Anyway, he's at least a top game changer from the bench. Totally agree. Can be match winner one game then looks poor another.
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Feb 7, 2016 15:51:16 GMT 1
To anyone who went ydy how did matmour and Manu do after coming on? Thanks in advance
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 7, 2016 15:53:52 GMT 1
To anyone who went ydy how did matmour and Manu do after coming on? Thanks in advance Imo Manu looks strong and quick, had couple of shots, didnt get enough time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 15:55:51 GMT 1
Thought Manu looked lively, should be an asset. On another note, was introduced to Nick yesterday. Still can't figure him out. At all.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 7, 2016 16:05:01 GMT 1
Thought Manu looked lively, should be an asset. On another note, was introduced to Nick yesterday. Still can't figure him out. At all. Eh, dunno what occurring.
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Post by Melc on Feb 7, 2016 16:17:19 GMT 1
He didn't command a fee and the club could claim a transfer. Early days, but he doesn't look any better in the position where we had so many, that we got rid of one and brought 2 in PR type bollocks. Just checking, you've never seen him play, have you? Going by his constant drivel on here, you would think he watched us every week! Amazing how you can judge a player on the radio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:55:19 GMT 1
That took a long time!
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 7, 2016 16:55:20 GMT 1
Said it before- most erratic player I've known. Can be really effective in creating chances, as the stats back-up. Some games he's great at turning and running at the defence. Just the next minute he's inexplicably falling over and/or the ball is bouncing 10 yards off him. Probably fits with the results- can make a difference, which is why we score a lot, but puts the defence under pressure losing the ball when he really shouldn't. Anyway, he's at least a top game changer from the bench. That's pretty much my opinion. Can go from brilliant to frustrating in the blink of an eye. Sometimes looks out of his depth, but often proves very effective. Last home game is a case in point. Misses a simple chance, but assists Wells for his goal and scores a cracker at the end. I wish he'd get his head up a bit more, and his touch sometimes let's him down, but there's no doubt he's often very effective for us. And hopefully Wagner will be able to work on his game so he gets even better for us. That was Patterson with the assist for Nakhi last week and Nakhis' superb assist for Bunn Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by Barbieterrier on Feb 7, 2016 17:01:30 GMT 1
Thought Manu looked lively, should be an asset. On another note, was introduced to Nick yesterday. Still can't figure him out. At all. Eh, dunno what occurring. I introduced you to each other yesterday. Hoping from now on you'll become firm friends.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 7, 2016 17:03:17 GMT 1
Eh, dunno what occurring. I introduced you to each other yesterday. Hoping from now on you'll become firm friends. Lol, oh dint realise thats your fella, cool. Hope didnt offend.
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Post by ACW on Feb 7, 2016 17:13:23 GMT 1
That's pretty much my opinion. Can go from brilliant to frustrating in the blink of an eye. Sometimes looks out of his depth, but often proves very effective. Last home game is a case in point. Misses a simple chance, but assists Wells for his goal and scores a cracker at the end. I wish he'd get his head up a bit more, and his touch sometimes let's him down, but there's no doubt he's often very effective for us. And hopefully Wagner will be able to work on his game so he gets even better for us. That was Patterson with the assist for Nakhi last week and Nakhis' superb assist for Bunn Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Fair enough. My point still stands though. Bunn is a hot and cold player, but nevertheless still one of our more effective players on his day.
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Post by Stavros on Feb 7, 2016 18:43:27 GMT 1
That's pretty much my opinion. Can go from brilliant to frustrating in the blink of an eye. Sometimes looks out of his depth, but often proves very effective. Last home game is a case in point. Misses a simple chance, but assists Wells for his goal and scores a cracker at the end. I wish he'd get his head up a bit more, and his touch sometimes let's him down, but there's no doubt he's often very effective for us. And hopefully Wagner will be able to work on his game so he gets even better for us. That was Patterson with the assist for Nakhi last week and Nakhis' superb assist for Bunn Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Superb assist for Bunn....'s exquisite first touch and finish. Just to complete the sentence. I love him to bits me, for the record. It always feels like something good could happen when he gets the ball. He makes mistakes, but so do others who have contributed less in the goals/assists table than HB, so why he gets so much shit I don't know.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 7, 2016 18:54:39 GMT 1
I'd love to see a list of his assists as to whether they were passes or crosses or just the ball bouncing off him. I admit I don't rate him but I do struggle to think of his assists, although tbf I can't remember much about most of the goals we've scored this season Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by detox on Feb 7, 2016 19:04:58 GMT 1
You can add Bunn to Scannell, Wells, Hudson,Smith, Hogg , Dempsey....all can look very good, then not so good...I think it might be because they aren't £20m Premier league players ? I rate Bunn though, and Scannell..because when they are good, they are fookin brilliant ...
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Feb 7, 2016 19:53:13 GMT 1
Agree with the OP, apar from the bit about Wells. I thought he had one of his better games for Town and he actually put the ball in the god damn net, and therefore did his job better than anyone else yesterday.
Paterson Lolly and Bunn were all awful IMO.
We could have scored at least 6 more goals with better finishing from them, or better thinking about where to put the ball. Bunn needs a rest from the team, he's been bang average for quite some time now.
I also noticed that Wells was the only one screaming to get the ball back and restart the game when we went 2-1 down.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 7, 2016 19:54:19 GMT 1
I also thought that Dempsey should have come on instead of Matmour - I can't understand what the management see in him. He didn't command a fee and the club could claim a transfer. Early days, but he doesn't look any better in the position where we had so many, that we got rid of one and brought 2 in PR type bollocks. When did you see him play then?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 7, 2016 20:08:11 GMT 1
He didn't command a fee and the club could claim a transfer. Early days, but he doesn't look any better in the position where we had so many, that we got rid of one and brought 2 in PR type bollocks. When did you see him play then? Come on Nicky he's only played his whole career in the bundesliga.you don't need to actually "see" him to "see" he is PR TYPE BOLLOCKS .. Get with the script lad.. analysing a players credentials is far better served sat in your bedroom than going to a match
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Post by wigster on Feb 7, 2016 21:22:56 GMT 1
To anyone who went ydy how did matmour and Manu do after coming on? Thanks in advance Manu rarely got the ball once he'd come on so impossible to judge - only thing I remember was that he instinctively hit a volley that was rocketing goalwards till it was blocked in a group of players - no chance whatsoever of showing the pace he's supposed to have. Matmour had longer on the pitch - I'm possibly being a bit harsh but he didn't do anything that was very noticeable. I think his control is good and he's a skilful player and he did well to cross the ball (admittedly rather weakly)once when confronted by two opponents. May just be me but I get the impression that he'll look excellent when we play weak opponents but not really a driving force when it's a battle. I'll be delighted to be proved wrong as I've obviously not seen much of him but he's perhaps a bit of a luxury player like I think Paterson is !
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Feb 7, 2016 21:46:01 GMT 1
To anyone who went ydy how did matmour and Manu do after coming on? Thanks in advance Manu rarely got the ball once he'd come on so impossible to judge - only thing I remember was that he instinctively hit a volley that was rocketing goalwards till it was blocked in a group of players - no chance whatsoever of showing the pace he's supposed to have. Matmour had longer on the pitch - I'm possibly being a bit harsh but he didn't do anything that was very noticeable. I think his control is good and he's a skilful player and he did well to cross the ball (admittedly rather weakly)once when confronted by two opponents. May just be me but I get the impression that he'll look excellent when we play weak opponents but not really a driving force when it's a battle. I'll be delighted to be proved wrong as I've obviously not seen much of him but he's perhaps a bit of a luxury player like I think Paterson is ! thanks for the response. let's hope they both settle in soon and both can become effective players as both are playing for a future In different senses.
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