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Post by Melc on Mar 29, 2016 13:49:15 GMT 1
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Post by terrier70 on Mar 29, 2016 13:52:57 GMT 1
I would keep Hudson, Hogg, Matmour, Crainie and Boyle. Holmes is the tricky one
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Post by Sio on Mar 29, 2016 13:55:04 GMT 1
I would keep Hudson, Hogg, Matmour, Crainie and Boyle. Holmes is the tricky one Agreed - although I'm sceptical over Boyle too. Holmes very difficult. I'm convinced he could be a top player, but it isn't happening for him. Probably should have by now..
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 29, 2016 13:56:11 GMT 1
I'd give Holmes another year with Wagner's influence. A full pre-season and all...
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Post by Melc on Mar 29, 2016 13:56:52 GMT 1
I would keep Hudson, Hogg, Matmour, Crainie and Boyle. Holmes is the tricky one Agree with first four but maybe it is time to move Holmes on as he does not look like displacing Billing let alone any of the most senior pro's. Not sure about Boyle to be honest.
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Post by terrier70 on Mar 29, 2016 13:59:16 GMT 1
I would keep Hudson, Hogg, Matmour, Crainie and Boyle. Holmes is the tricky one Agreed - although I'm sceptical over Boyle too. Holmes very difficult. I'm convinced he could be a top player, but it isn't happening for him. Probably should have by now.. Agreed on this with Holmes. Boyle would give him a year and see how he goes although I heard Wagner likes the lad
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:00:24 GMT 1
Hogg,Hudson,Crainie and maybe Matmour.
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Post by terrierstalk on Mar 29, 2016 14:01:06 GMT 1
Hudson (only as back up) Hogg Matmour Crainie
Holmes is a highly talented player, I would personally keep him but I think we will get rid. Nobody seems to know his best position and he's not physically strong enough.
The rest can go for me.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Mar 29, 2016 14:04:14 GMT 1
I'd keep 1 of Hudson or Cranie as back up to a new partner to Lynch. Although I suspect Hudson will be a mainstay of the side as Wagner really likes him in the side. Not convinced with Matmour, I'd sign him if Paterson isn't staying. Wondering if one of the continental players we've got lined up on a permanent as well as Lowe is Matmour.
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Mar 29, 2016 14:06:58 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2016 14:16:02 GMT 1
nobody knows what wagner and Dean have planned..new arrivals numbers may be higher than anticipated..names mentioned may not even be in the thoughts for contract extension talks..
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2016 14:16:59 GMT 1
nobody knows what wagner and Dean have planned..new arrivals numbers may be higher than anticipated..names mentioned may not even be in the thoughts for contract extension talks..
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 29, 2016 14:19:37 GMT 1
Perhaps a new club might be what Holmes needs in order to push on? Been at Town since he was 9 year old, he's been on the fringes for 3 years but never really threatened for a regular place. Change might do him some good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:29:24 GMT 1
I'd keep 1 of Hudson or Cranie as back up to a new partner to Lynch. Although I suspect Hudson will be a mainstay of the side as Wagner really likes him in the side. Not convinced with Matmour, I'd sign him if Paterson isn't staying. Wondering if one of the continental players we've got lined up on a permanent as well as Lowe is Matmour. I know he gets lots of stick on here but I would definitely keep Hudson for one more season and let Cranie go. I wouldn't have a problem starting next season with Lynch and Hudson as first choices. We would need quality back up of course. One or two quality players who would step in when needed for injuries, suspensions, rotation and loss of form and at some stage permanently. Over the course of this season in the 18 games Lynch and Hudson have played at least 60 minutes we average 1.61 points per game. Without one or both of them only 0.80 points per game. Over a season it would be totals of 74 or 37 points. I know I will get knocked down by people saying stats are distorted by quality of opposition, etc but the records are not far off a full season.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2016 14:36:09 GMT 1
I'd keep 1 of Hudson or Cranie as back up to a new partner to Lynch. Although I suspect Hudson will be a mainstay of the side as Wagner really likes him in the side. Not convinced with Matmour, I'd sign him if Paterson isn't staying. Wondering if one of the continental players we've got lined up on a permanent as well as Lowe is Matmour. I know he gets lots of stick on here but I would definitely keep Hudson for one more season and let Cranie go. I wouldn't have a problem starting next season with Lynch and Hudson as first choices. We would need quality back up of course. One or two quality players who would step in when needed for injuries, suspensions, rotation and loss of form and at some stage permanently. Over the course of this season in the 18 games Lynch and Cranie have played at least 60 minutes we average 1.61 points per game. Without one or both of them only 0.80 points per game. Over a season it would be totals of 74 or 37 points. I know I will get knocked down by people saying stats are distorted by quality of opposition, etc but the records are not far off a full season. If we get a 'quality' centre half in then Hudson will be back up??? on his money could we then afford him as back up?
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Post by wtd on Mar 29, 2016 14:39:04 GMT 1
nobody knows what wagner and Dean have planned..new arrivals numbers may be higher than anticipated..names mentioned may not even be in the thoughts for contract extension talks.. This. We are all giving our opinions based on what we have now. Only Deano and DW will know how many new players they want to bring in, which will be the deciding factor for all those out of contract. Pointless guessing really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:40:19 GMT 1
Given that we only have 14/15 so called 'first-teamers' contracted to us next season and the abolishment of the emergency loan system then I'd expect us to have a slightly larger squad.
I'd only look to extend Hogg's and Cranie's year options and give Holmes and Boyle year contracts with an option of a further year.
Hudson is only worth a new deal if he takes a significant pay cut (reportedly our biggest earner now) and is willing to be 3rd choice CB.
Matmour is a difficult one given that we have been after Ryan Gauld, have an option to sign Paterson and will be bringing in RVLP on a permanent deal.
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Post by dugnet on Mar 29, 2016 14:41:35 GMT 1
Hudson maybe brilliant in the dressing room but so is a hot shower. He is a very honest, 100%, professional who has had a great career but I would be very unsure about him being our starting centre half next year. He is a bit like Peter Clarke had got, all heart but at least 2 critical mistakes in him a game and as a result not up to what we need at this level. Sad but true.
As for the rest - Hogg is the most important to keep, Matmour is a solid squad option and it just depends on whether Allinson is considered as having the ability to step up. Holmes might be worth a year, but he has to really make his mark and I think other kids may come past him now as Billing has. Cranie is another solid squad member and useful as such, but not quite what we need for 60=70% regular appearances - if he is happy to stay as a squad member then he's good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:42:17 GMT 1
I know he gets lots of stick on here but I would definitely keep Hudson for one more season and let Cranie go. I wouldn't have a problem starting next season with Lynch and Hudson as first choices. We would need quality back up of course. One or two quality players who would step in when needed for injuries, suspensions, rotation and loss of form and at some stage permanently. Over the course of this season in the 18 games Lynch and Cranie have played at least 60 minutes we average 1.61 points per game. Without one or both of them only 0.80 points per game. Over a season it would be totals of 74 or 37 points. I know I will get knocked down by people saying stats are distorted by quality of opposition, etc but the records are not far off a full season. If we get a 'quality' centre half in then Hudson will be back up??? on his money could we then afford him as back up? Both DW and CP seem to rate Hudson for his on and off field qualities and leadership. Relative quality I mean. Not expecting Stones. Just a good young centre back who may need time to get into the training methods, etc. then when ready become first choice. Under DW players can expect some rotation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:45:18 GMT 1
Just keep Hogg for me. Hudson, Cranie and Holmes difficult decisions but think we should be looking for better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:46:45 GMT 1
Hudson maybe brilliant in the dressing room but so is a hot shower. He is a very honest, 100%, professional who has had a great career but I would be very unsure about him being our starting centre half next year. He is a bit like Peter Clarke had got, all heart but at least 2 critical mistakes in him a game and as a result not up to what we need at this level. Sad but true. As for the rest - Hogg is the most important to keep, Matmour is a solid squad option and it just depends on whether Allinson is considered as having the ability to step up. Holmes might be worth a year, but he has to really make his mark and I think other kids may come past him now as Billing has. Cranie is another solid squad member and useful as such, but not quite what we need for 60=70% regular appearances - if he is happy to stay as a squad member then he's good enough. Given the number of GK trialists we've had in the u21s in the last month - I'd suggest not.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 29, 2016 14:47:40 GMT 1
Id give Hogg, Hudson, Cranie, Matmour Boyle and Holmes another year, especially as we need a larger squad next season.
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Post by Melc on Mar 29, 2016 14:48:11 GMT 1
Given that we only have 14/15 so called 'first-teamers' contracted to us next season and the abolishment of the emergency loan system then I'd expect us to have a slightly larger squad. I'd only look to extend Hogg's and Cranie's year options and give Holmes and Boyle year contracts with an option of a further year. Hudson is only worth a new deal if he takes a significant pay cut (reportedly our biggest earner now) and is willing to be 3rd choice CB. Matmour is a difficult one given that we have been after Ryan Gauld, have an option to sign Paterson and will be bringing in RVLP on a permanent deal. Webber commented on squad the other day. www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-prepared-end-emergency-11096262
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:53:02 GMT 1
Id give Hogg, Hudson, Cranie, Matmour Boyle and Holmes another year, especially as we need a larger squad next season. Thing about Duane is he needs a pre-season with Wagner. Dunno, dificult one this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:54:31 GMT 1
Can somebody list the nine please? The examiner website is garbage on my iPad, will end up through a window if it keeps crashing and reloading.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 29, 2016 14:57:19 GMT 1
Id give Hogg, Hudson, Cranie, Matmour Boyle and Holmes another year, especially as we need a larger squad next season. Thing about Duane is he needs a pre-season with Wagner. Dunno, dificult one this. Giving him another year isn't gonna break the bank I think its worth it as a back up player until/unless we find a better replacement
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 29, 2016 14:58:01 GMT 1
Seem to remember somebody saying that Hoyle "wants to go for it" next season. We won't be going anywhere unless we significantly improve the defence and that means a back up role at best for Hudson.
Holmes & Boyle should both be given an extra year to continue their development, but the rest can go for me (maybe keep Cranie).
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 29, 2016 14:59:08 GMT 1
Can somebody list the nine please? The examiner website is garbage on my iPad, will end up through a window if it keeps crashing and reloading. Hogg Hudson Cranie Miller Duane Holmes William Boyle Allinson Ben Holmes (released) Ed Wilczynski (released)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 15:02:17 GMT 1
Some of the others are pretty key though? The year option on senior is one I'd see as a 'yes' and wright has some strengths so its a long list!
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 29, 2016 15:03:44 GMT 1
Seem to remember somebody saying that Hoyle "wants to go for it" next season. We won't be going anywhere unless we significantly improve the defence and that means a back up role at best for Hudson. Holmes & Boyle should both be given an extra year to continue their development, but the rest can go for me (maybe keep Cranie). Hogg?
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