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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 15:30:51 GMT 1
I loved Dean Gorre as much as the next Town fan, but he was nothing without Kenny Irons.
Aaron Mooy is the best Town midfielder I've seen in my lifetime.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Oct 1, 2016 17:15:26 GMT 1
Didn't he move further back when Whitehead was subbed off for VLP at half time. We didn't score when he played in the '10' role, shock! I thought we'd be world beaters when this happened Schindler did convert one of his corners for the winner though
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2016 18:15:35 GMT 1
Best player outside the Prem simply 'the Wizard of Oz'
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Post by nicovaesen on Oct 1, 2016 18:19:15 GMT 1
I loved Dean Gorre as much as the next Town fan, but he was nothing without Kenny Irons. Aaron Mooy is the best Town midfielder I've seen in my lifetime. Similar with Hogg. His contribution is invaluable to mooys game UTT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 18:35:32 GMT 1
I loved Dean Gorre as much as the next Town fan, but he was nothing without Kenny Irons. Aaron Mooy is the best Town midfielder I've seen in my lifetime. Similar with Hogg. His contribution is invaluable to mooys game UTT I see where you're coming from but that's only partially true. Irons was a fantastic player in his own right, scoring goals from central midfield while sitting in a deep role. Hogg's a pure water carrier in the Batty/Deschamps mold. Effective yet limited.
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Post by TheDalaiPharmer on Oct 1, 2016 18:35:44 GMT 1
Best player outside the Prem simply 'the Wizard of Oz'He quite simply is, a bit better than our last aussie player too
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 18:43:38 GMT 1
Similar with Hogg. His contribution is invaluable to mooys game UTT I see where you're coming from but that's only partially true. Irons was a fantastic player in his own right, scoring goals from central midfield while sitting in a deep role. Hogg's a pure water carrier in the Batty/Deschamps mold. Effective yet limited. Effective is fine by me within the team ethic!
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 1, 2016 19:55:31 GMT 1
Best player outside the Prem simply 'the Wizard of Oz'He quite simply is, a bit better than our last aussie player too So am I.
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Post by pberrett on Oct 2, 2016 4:02:42 GMT 1
Hello all
I know this is a little off topic but I have noticed that you like our Australian midfielder, Mooy.
But Manchester City also signed Luke Bratten, a midfielder, and have loaned him for a year to Melbourne City. He's good value and worth checking out and could be a good replacement for Mooy next year if Mooy moves on.
By the way Mooy is of Dutch descent. His name sounds a lot like 'Mooi; which means 'beautiful; which is apt because that's the kind of football he plays. cheers Peter
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Oct 2, 2016 7:52:57 GMT 1
Hello all I know this is a little off topic but I have noticed that you like our Australian midfielder, Mooy. But Manchester City also signed Luke Bratten, a midfielder, and have loaned him for a year to Melbourne City. He's good value and worth checking out and could be a good replacement for Mooy next year if Mooy moves on. By the way Mooy is of Dutch descent. His name sounds a lot like 'Mooi; which means 'beautiful; which is apt because that's the kind of football he plays. cheers Peter When you said this is a little off topic, I thought you were gonna be selling kitchens in Oldham.
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Post by wtd on Oct 2, 2016 8:00:41 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends
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Post by tpansw on Oct 2, 2016 8:35:03 GMT 1
Best player outside the Prem simply 'the Wizard of Oz' Better than messi?
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Post by shawsie on Oct 2, 2016 8:38:56 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends spot on chief
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 8:45:55 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends spot on chief Yep. I can't think of many players more suited to the deeper lying role. You could see him slotting in there for Man City instead of likes of Fernandinho. Unfortunately for us I imagine a certain pep G thinking the same.
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Post by tpansw on Oct 2, 2016 8:46:05 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends A number 10 is obviously going to be less influential in the running of the game but more influential in terms of goals and assists and Mooys assists are his number one strength as a footballer. He got his first one (second in all competitions) of the season against ipswich, which is not very good by his standards. If he played at number 10 he would be the leading assister in the league.
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Post by wtd on Oct 2, 2016 8:54:27 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends A number 10 is obviously going to be less influential in the running of the game but more influential in terms of goals and assists and Mooys assists are his number one strength as a footballer. He got his first one (second in all competitions) of the season against ipswich, which is not very good by his standards. If he played at number 10 he would be the leading assister in the league. He got his assist in the second half when he wasn't in the Number 10 role... so you can hardly claim that. It was from a corner anyway. Believe me, in the first half yesterday, he was a shadow of the player he has been and the team suffered creatively from the change.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 2, 2016 9:03:01 GMT 1
A number 10 is obviously going to be less influential in the running of the game but more influential in terms of goals and assists and Mooys assists are his number one strength as a footballer. He got his first one (second in all competitions) of the season against ipswich, which is not very good by his standards. If he played at number 10 he would be the leading assister in the league. He got his assist in the second half when he wasn't in the Number 10 role... so you can hardly claim that. It was from a corner anyway. Believe me, in the first half yesterday, he was a shadow of the player he has been and the team suffered creatively from the change. my observation from yesterday is the more advanced role he had yesterday doesn't suit him. he's better facing the ball not receiving it back to goal and the game by passed him a little until Wagner changed it. it might be worth trying it again though....ipswich stopped us playing yesterday but at the expense of their own threats. we have lots of options right now and the man pulling the strings is top drawer.
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Post by y2troy on Oct 2, 2016 9:12:11 GMT 1
Like this lad, keeps it ticking over an a natural leader ,which is what we need,makes us hard to beat .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 9:23:24 GMT 1
is he playing for oz this time??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 9:25:36 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends Or use him further advanced like we did yesterday as part of a stronger defensive block early in away games until the other team has ran out of ideas and got totally frustrated. We need to keep Whitehead match sharp until after Hogg earns a suspension, this approach seems like an effective way of doing that....plus it allows him a bit of recovery if he's not expected on the edge of both penalty areas. He's looked to have faded SLIGHTLY over last few weeks, I suspect this is all about managing Mooy effectively so he can return to his August form.
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Post by melbcityfc on Oct 2, 2016 9:39:17 GMT 1
is he playing for oz this time?? He will be playing for Oz on the 11th of Oct against Japan. We need this guy so sorry lads, we are taking him back I'm guessing he won't be available next weekend for you guys. Good luck nevertheless without him.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 2, 2016 9:44:15 GMT 1
is he playing for oz this time?? He will be playing for Oz on the 11th of Oct against Japan. We need this guy so sorry lads, we are taking him back I'm guessing he won't be available next weekend for you guys. Good luck nevertheless without him. Not sure how we will be able to cope without him for a fixtureless weekend .
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Oct 2, 2016 9:48:24 GMT 1
I wonder if he would get in the current Man City squad or indeed if he would get in the squad in the future. If not me wonders if we would try and buy him
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 10:40:36 GMT 1
I wonder if he would get in the current Man City squad or indeed if he would get in the squad in the future. If not me wonders if we would try and buy him He won't get a game at City. He's good but not on the same level as their 100k a week players If we go up we'll try to sign him but so will plenty of other teams
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 2, 2016 10:49:26 GMT 1
He got his assist in the second half when he wasn't in the Number 10 role... so you can hardly claim that. It was from a corner anyway. Believe me, in the first half yesterday, he was a shadow of the player he has been and the team suffered creatively from the change. my observation from yesterday is the more advanced role he had yesterday doesn't suit him. he's better facing the ball not receiving it back to goal and the game by passed him a little until Wagner changed it. it might be worth trying it again though....ipswich stopped us playing yesterday but at the expense of their own threats. we have lots of options right now and the man pulling the strings is top drawer. As much as it's slighty annoying a couple of Aussies that haven't seen him play for us putting forward their suggestions as almost facts, it would be folly to dismiss he couldn't play this role off a single performance. My instinct is he's better deeper, but I can see the merit in playing him further forward when we want to be a bit nore solid. Whether I'd pick Hogg and Whitehead at the same time is another matter; I'd maybe opt for one of the giants who are more comfortable in possession Again, good problems to have (well, probably, suppose Billing's progress may be seriously curtailed).
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 2, 2016 10:57:14 GMT 1
In the first half yesterday, playing in the advanced No.10 role, he wasn't half as influential a player for us as he has been thus far. Once Wagner changed it, by taking off Whitehead and allowing Mooy to dictate from a little further back, then normal service was resumed. We have a plethora of creative players who can play up and around the box, let's leave Mooy to pull the stings from that more central position. Wagner 1 - 0 Our Antipodean Friends A number 10 is obviously going to be less influential in the running of the game but more influential in terms of goals and assists and Mooys assists are his number one strength as a footballer. He got his first one (second in all competitions) of the season against ipswich, which is not very good by his standards. If he played at number 10 he would be the leading assister in the league. We have two better natural number 10's in Palmer and Payne. Mooy is much better when the ball is in front of him with his back to our goal than he is further up the pitch with his back to the opponents goal - as was well illustrated by the game at Ipswich yesterday.
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Post by dumbo on Oct 2, 2016 11:26:55 GMT 1
He got his assist in the second half when he wasn't in the Number 10 role... so you can hardly claim that. It was from a corner anyway. Believe me, in the first half yesterday, he was a shadow of the player he has been and the team suffered creatively from the change. my observation from yesterday is the more advanced role he had yesterday doesn't suit him. he's better facing the ball not receiving it back to goal and the game by passed him a little until Wagner changed it. it might be worth trying it again though....ipswich stopped us playing yesterday but at the expense of their own threats. we have lots of options right now and the man pulling the strings is top drawer. Wagner said for this game he wanted a number 10 that could play with back to goal and hold the ball up. Mooy did what he was asked to do as part of the bugger game plan. He was then swapped for a pacier player. It's too early to say Mooy is better deeper than No 10. He is very good deep, but only had 45 mins at No 10, where he did exactly as told and created the best chance of the half (Kachunga post). Think we should give a bit more respect to our Australian friends, who have seen much more of him than we have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 11:37:00 GMT 1
The "bugger game plan".....wasn't that for after the match, in the showers?.....;-)
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 2, 2016 11:56:44 GMT 1
is he playing for oz this time?? Yep. Called up again. Two games I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 11:58:36 GMT 1
is he playing for oz this time?? Yep. Called up again. Two games I believe. Plays in Melbourne on the Tuesday. Probably back in training on the Friday. If he managed the Leeds game then should be ok for Weds with extra day rest
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