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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 10:37:56 GMT 1
Cant see Mooy getting any game time at Man City. He's class at this level but he's not top 4 of the Premier League class I think there's loads more to his game than we've seen so far. It really stood out on Wednesday that he needs to be playing with better players. I don't think we've seen his attacking game properly as its all hands to the pump in the engine room and Wagner is happy with his options of Payne or Palmer. I would like to see him have a run of games as part of a 3 in midfield where he's the most advanced. We'll see but he's good enough to be in city's squad next season Imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 10:39:42 GMT 1
100% correct decision to start the game with Whitehead and bring Mooy on as a sub I thought. Mooy had a bigger impact off the bench as I think he would have been knackered after 60min if he'd started. Whitehead starting allowed to us get a solid foothold in the game albeit without looking hugely threatening, but once we'd established ourselves it was time for Mooy to come on and do his thing and IMO the timing was perfect. Yup. Whitehead did the dirty work so that Mooy could come on against a knackered midfield. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 10:43:37 GMT 1
100% correct decision to start the game with Whitehead and bring Mooy on as a sub I thought. Mooy had a bigger impact off the bench as I think he would have been knackered after 60min if he'd started. Whitehead starting allowed to us get a solid foothold in the game albeit without looking hugely threatening, but once we'd established ourselves it was time for Mooy to come on and do his thing and IMO the timing was perfect. Yup. Whitehead did the dirty work so that Mooy could come on against a knackered midfield. Ridiculous to think we were gonna allow whitehead to leave. He's been excellent in his last two appearances-the epitome of an experience pro. |
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Post by freddyk on Oct 23, 2016 11:39:38 GMT 1
Cant see Mooy getting any game time at Man City. He's class at this level but he's not top 4 of the Premier League class When Australia played England in May of this year Mooy and Rogic dominated the midfield much the same way as Mooy does in the Championship... and you are talking about dominating Jack Wilshere (Arsenal), John Henderson (Liverpool) and Daniel Drinkwater. I guess dominating EPL midfielders does not count at the International level. Here is the game First half Second half |
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Post by stefcep on Oct 23, 2016 12:12:07 GMT 1
Bratten is a better player than when he left Brisbane, and he was in the top 3 is 4 mids going around then. He currently leads player of the year voting for Herald Sun. Milligan is finished- Postecoglou still owes him though for convincing him not to go to England when he could've. Luongo is hot and cold, and has been in and out of the team. Jedinak already doesn't have the legs, let alone in 18 or so months. Bratten is your classical number 6. Bratten is as good as mooy as a deep lying playmaker, but Mooy is the best number 10 we have by a fair way, better than rogic. or at least he was when he played that position. milligan isn't even close to finished he's always one of our best players just doesn't have the legs to play completely out of position as right back. Jedinak is the one who is finished. Mooy will not play number 10 for the national team whilst Rogic is fit. Milligan is so far off the pace since going to the middle East its not funny- he only got to play RB because Degenek was injured. There is no room in the midfield for him with Jackson Irvine also staking a claim. He is done as a starter. |
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Post by stefcep on Oct 23, 2016 12:26:00 GMT 1
Bratten is a better player than when he left Brisbane, and he was in the top 3 is 4 mids going around then. He currently leads player of the year voting for Herald Sun. Milligan is finished- Postecoglou still owes him though for convincing him not to go to England when he could've. Luongo is hot and cold, and has been in and out of the team. Jedinak already doesn't have the legs, let alone in 18 or so months. Bratten is your classical number 6. Tim Cahill's opinion: "he left an impression on talisman Tim Cahill, who compared Brattan's passing style and control to that of Mark Bresciano. You guys might think that's a big comment. But I think give it some time and this kid will be making some noises." Cahill said. Firstly, you could at least spell his name correctly. There have only been three games so far, yes Brattan has performed well so far but still has some ways to go to match Mooy for consistency. First you call him a number six and then quote Cahill who compares him to Bresciano who was never a '6'. Not sure why you think Milligan is done, still a very good player with a role to play. Yes, Brattan seems a prospect but to suggest he will be battling Mooy for Mooy's spot is fanciful to say the least. My apologies for the spelling error. Brattan is definately a '6', Cahill is referring more to Brattan's ability on the ball than his specific role. Mooy has only been a squad regular in the NT for a year. His starting spot is not nailed down. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 12:30:36 GMT 1
Cant see Mooy getting any game time at Man City. He's class at this level but he's not top 4 of the Premier League class I think there's loads more to his game than we've seen so far. It really stood out on Wednesday that he needs to be playing with better players. I don't think we've seen his attacking game properly as its all hands to the pump in the engine room and Wagner is happy with his options of Payne or Palmer. I would like to see him have a run of games as part of a 3 in midfield where he's the most advanced. We'll see but he's good enough to be in city's squad next season Imo. It would be interesting to see him as one of the three further forward, the only thing he probably lacks in that position is a bit of pace but it could work. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 23, 2016 12:35:08 GMT 1
I think there's loads more to his game than we've seen so far. It really stood out on Wednesday that he needs to be playing with better players. I don't think we've seen his attacking game properly as its all hands to the pump in the engine room and Wagner is happy with his options of Payne or Palmer. I would like to see him have a run of games as part of a 3 in midfield where he's the most advanced. We'll see but he's good enough to be in city's squad next season Imo. It would be interesting to see him as one of the three further forward, the only thing he probably lacks in that position is a bit of pace but it could work. It didn't at Ipswich (but that is a very small sample, of course, and could be different against different opposition) |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 23, 2016 12:45:10 GMT 1
Cant see Mooy getting any game time at Man City. He's class at this level but he's not top 4 of the Premier League class I think there's loads more to his game than we've seen so far. It really stood out on Wednesday that he needs to be playing with better players. Our striker's aren't on Mooy's wavelength most of the time, they don't pick up on his little reverse passes as he's playing them, let alone make a run that anticipates the ball. There was one against Wednesday where he played in Wells (?) with a beautiful little reverse, but he was on his heels and the defender got there first. If he anticipated that he would've been one on one with their keeper. Bit disappointing that they've been together for about 3 months and the attackers aren't utilising Mooy to the best of his ability. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:15:25 GMT 1
I think there's loads more to his game than we've seen so far. It really stood out on Wednesday that he needs to be playing with better players. I don't think we've seen his attacking game properly as its all hands to the pump in the engine room and Wagner is happy with his options of Payne or Palmer. I would like to see him have a run of games as part of a 3 in midfield where he's the most advanced. We'll see but he's good enough to be in city's squad next season Imo. It would be interesting to see him as one of the three further forward, the only thing he probably lacks in that position is a bit of pace but it could work. The pace is all in his mind. Akin to Yoda. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:20:14 GMT 1
It would be interesting to see him as one of the three further forward, the only thing he probably lacks in that position is a bit of pace but it could work. The pace is all in his mind. It would be ideal if he had a bit in his legs as well though  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:22:12 GMT 1
The pace is all in his mind. It would be ideal if he had a bit in his legs as well though He'll just do one of his tap dancing esque moves, or a little shimmie and suddenly there's no one within 3 yards of him. |
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Post by ozterrier on Oct 23, 2016 16:42:12 GMT 1
Sounds like you could do without Mooy for a few games...give young Brattan a chance. All these qualifiers are a waste of time anyway. They are in Europe too. Unfortunately, Australia looks to have our work cut out for us to qualify this time around. We have a pretty competitive group so we'll be needing Mooy. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 23, 2016 16:55:18 GMT 1
Yup. Whitehead did the dirty work so that Mooy could come on against a knackered midfield. Ridiculous to think we were gonna allow whitehead to leave. He's been excellent in his last two appearances-the epitome of an experience pro. I don't think people understand what 'allowing' him to leave actually means!!! We said we would allow him to leave after Rotherham showed interest, but told him we'd prefer he stayed, which he ultimately did. If we had just told him he was staying, we could've easily ended up with an unhappy camper, just on the principle. Looks like it was handled perfectly! |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 23, 2016 17:19:45 GMT 1
Whitehead was excellent yesterday imo..
Just shows how good Mooooy is though, superb when he came on, they couldnt cope, he needed the half game rest as he looked knackered on wednesday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 19:07:39 GMT 1
Ridiculous to think we were gonna allow whitehead to leave. He's been excellent in his last two appearances-the epitome of an experience pro. I don't think people understand what 'allowing' him to leave actually means!!! We said we would allow him to leave after Rotherham showed interest, but told him we'd prefer he stayed, which he ultimately did. If we had just told him he was staying, we could've easily ended up with an unhappy camper, just on the principle. Looks like it was handled perfectly! That wasn't how I heard it but happy to be corrected. |
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Post by lahdeedah on Oct 24, 2016 5:41:17 GMT 1
Firstly, you could at least spell his name correctly. There have only been three games so far, yes Brattan has performed well so far but still has some ways to go to match Mooy for consistency. First you call him a number six and then quote Cahill who compares him to Bresciano who was never a '6'. Not sure why you think Milligan is done, still a very good player with a role to play. Yes, Brattan seems a prospect but to suggest he will be battling Mooy for Mooy's spot is fanciful to say the least. My apologies for the spelling error. Brattan is definately a '6', Cahill is referring more to Brattan's ability on the ball than his specific role. Mooy has only been a squad regular in the NT for a year. His starting spot is not nailed down. Using your own logic, Milligan won't be a show neither will luongo so there is plenty of room for both Brattan and Mooy. I think Mooy in particular has the versatility to make this arrangement work. Jedinak isn't up to it any more. |
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Post by AndySk on Oct 24, 2016 10:43:50 GMT 1
I think he might be a witch
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Post by tarantulafarmer on Oct 24, 2016 11:56:31 GMT 1
My apologies for the spelling error. Brattan is definately a '6', Cahill is referring more to Brattan's ability on the ball than his specific role. Mooy has only been a squad regular in the NT for a year. His starting spot is not nailed down. Using your own logic, Milligan won't be a show neither will luongo so there is plenty of room for both Brattan and Mooy. I think Mooy in particular has the versatility to make this arrangement work. Jedinak isn't up to it any more. |
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Post by tarantulafarmer on Oct 24, 2016 11:57:19 GMT 1
ryan is first man picked for aussie team , second is mooy
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Post by stefcep on Oct 26, 2016 3:32:13 GMT 1
My apologies for the spelling error. Brattan is definately a '6', Cahill is referring more to Brattan's ability on the ball than his specific role. Mooy has only been a squad regular in the NT for a year. His starting spot is not nailed down. Using your own logic, Milligan won't be a show neither will luongo so there is plenty of room for both Brattan and Mooy. I think Mooy in particular has the versatility to make this arrangement work. Jedinak isn't up to it any more. We may find out soon as Brattan has just been included in the next World Cup squad. Watched him score a screamer last in the FFA Cup ( 2 in 4 games now, not bad for a number 6). If Mooy can play Championship so can Brattan- can't believe Bolton passed on him without a minute of game time. |
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Post by stefcep on Oct 26, 2016 3:33:20 GMT 1
Using your own logic, Milligan won't be a show neither will luongo so there is plenty of room for both Brattan and Mooy. I think Mooy in particular has the versatility to make this arrangement work. Jedinak isn't up to it any more. We may find out soon as Brattan has just been included in the next World Cup squad. Watched him score a screamer last night in the FFA Cup ( 2 in 4 games now, not bad for a number 6). If Mooy can play Championship the way he has, so can Brattan- can't believe Bolton passed on him without a minute of game time. |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Oct 26, 2016 4:28:30 GMT 1
I don't think people understand what 'allowing' him to leave actually means!!! We said we would allow him to leave after Rotherham showed interest, but told him we'd prefer he stayed, which he ultimately did. If we had just told him he was staying, we could've easily ended up with an unhappy camper, just on the principle. Looks like it was handled perfectly! That wasn't how I heard it but happy to be corrected. Whitehead was given a choice as a respected senior pro, he could go to Rotherham and play every week or, he could leave a legacy of helping to bring on a team full of young players or foreigners who were not experienced in this league and really leave his mark on Huddersfield Town. he made the right choice |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 26, 2016 7:15:43 GMT 1
Respect to Whitehead for his choice, just shows what a good club we are , can see how he was in Boro team for so many years now.
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Post by wtd on Oct 26, 2016 9:31:09 GMT 1
That wasn't how I heard it but happy to be corrected. Whitehead was given a choice as a respected senior pro, he could go to Rotherham and play every week or, he could leave a legacy of helping to bring on a team full of young players or foreigners who were not experienced in this league and really leave his mark on Huddersfield Town. he made the right choice Chucking the captain's armband away in a hissy fit, when being subbed, left a bit to be desired, though.  |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 26, 2016 10:21:31 GMT 1
Whitehead was given a choice as a respected senior pro, he could go to Rotherham and play every week or, he could leave a legacy of helping to bring on a team full of young players or foreigners who were not experienced in this league and really leave his mark on Huddersfield Town. he made the right choice Chucking the captain's armband away in a hissy fit, when being subbed, left a bit to be desired, though. That can't be right, only Nakhi sulks apparently  Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 26, 2016 11:50:55 GMT 1
I see that Mooy has been called up again over the forthcoming 'International Break'
Our problem lies in the fact that his game - against Bangkok - is late in the 'window'; 15th Nov.
We play at Cardiff (and Colin!) on the 19th which might come just a bit too soon for him.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 26, 2016 12:14:17 GMT 1
I see that Mooy has been called up again over the forthcoming 'International Break' Our problem lies in the fact that his game - against Bangkok - is late in the 'window'; 15th Nov. We play at Cardiff (and Colin!) on the 19th which might come just a bit too soon for him. Think we have shown we can play without him to some extent and Colin will only set someone on to kick him. Late second half appearance might be appropriate - if required. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 26, 2016 18:01:15 GMT 1
Hope we sign him properly next summer. Classsss
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Post by lahdeedah on Oct 26, 2016 22:04:11 GMT 1
Using your own logic, Milligan won't be a show neither will luongo so there is plenty of room for both Brattan and Mooy. I think Mooy in particular has the versatility to make this arrangement work. Jedinak isn't up to it any more. We may find out soon as Brattan has just been included in the next World Cup squad. Watched him score a screamer last in the FFA Cup ( 2 in 4 games now, not bad for a number 6). If Mooy can play Championship so can Brattan- can't believe Bolton passed on him without a minute of game time. A goal that should have been ruled offside and most likely would have been saved if the keeper didn't see it late. I agree on both counts he is a good enough player for the championship and he definitely deserves to be in the national team squad but that is a long way from taking Mooy's spot. |
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