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Post by melbournelad on Sept 6, 2017 2:46:20 GMT 1
Was great again to see Aaron play again live last night. Unfortunately we didn't score enough.
We have a home and away (Malaysia) game against Syria October 5th and 10th. So that's going to be an inconvenience for you blokes.
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Post by philincalifornia on Sept 6, 2017 3:07:10 GMT 1
Was great again to see Aaron play again live last night. Unfortunately we didn't score enough. We have a home and away (Malaysia) game against Syria October 5th and 10th. So that's going to be an inconvenience for you blokes. You should be able to handle Syria, shouldn't you ? |
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Post by ozterrier on Sept 6, 2017 3:08:35 GMT 1
Was great again to see Aaron play again live last night. Unfortunately we didn't score enough. We have a home and away (Malaysia) game against Syria October 5th and 10th. So that's going to be an inconvenience for you blokes. I'm sure there would have been friendlies that weekend anyway. |
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Post by melbournelad on Sept 6, 2017 3:19:08 GMT 1
Was great again to see Aaron play again live last night. Unfortunately we didn't score enough. We have a home and away (Malaysia) game against Syria October 5th and 10th. So that's going to be an inconvenience for you blokes. You should be able to handle Syria, shouldn't you ? On the balance of things we should but in one off games anything is possible. But the second playoff series against the concacaf side is no walk in the park either. I guess we are still alive and have a good chance of getting to the World Cup but only losing 1 game doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Drawing games we should have won is our own fault. |
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Post by philincalifornia on Sept 6, 2017 3:25:20 GMT 1
You should be able to handle Syria, shouldn't you ? On the balance of things we should but in one off games anything is possible. But the second playoff series against the concacaf side is no walk in the park either. I guess we are still alive and have a good chance of getting to the World Cup but only losing 1 game doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Drawing games we should have won is our own fault. Check out my earlier post - if the US or Honduras play like they did today, you will kill them. They were absolutely dreadful, especially the US. The midfield was like a pub team, and the defence was even worse. Honduras really should have beaten them. I don't know why our Danny Williams wasn't in the squad. He would've been a better midfield on his own than the crap that played today. |
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Post by melbournelad on Sept 6, 2017 3:59:06 GMT 1
On the balance of things we should but in one off games anything is possible. But the second playoff series against the concacaf side is no walk in the park either. I guess we are still alive and have a good chance of getting to the World Cup but only losing 1 game doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Drawing games we should have won is our own fault. Check out my earlier post - if the US or Honduras play like they did today, you will kill them. They were absolutely dreadful, especially the US. The midfield was like a pub team, and the defence was even worse. Honduras really should have beaten them. I don't know why our Danny Williams wasn't in the squad. He would've been a better midfield on his own than the crap that played today. Yeah I saw your previous post and that does boost the confidence but these playoff games teams can find something and perform above. But a game against the U.S or Honduras should be a win. Need to get over Syria first. |
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Post by philincalifornia on Sept 6, 2017 4:06:59 GMT 1
Check out my earlier post - if the US or Honduras play like they did today, you will kill them. They were absolutely dreadful, especially the US. The midfield was like a pub team, and the defence was even worse. Honduras really should have beaten them. I don't know why our Danny Williams wasn't in the squad. He would've been a better midfield on his own than the crap that played today. Yeah I saw your previous post and that does boost the confidence but these playoff games teams can find something and perform above. But a game against the U.S or Honduras should be a win. Need to get over Syria first. Yeah, good luck. Watching Costa Rica v Mexico right now and the game is at around 3 times the pace and quality of that earlier pub game. I'd be less confident for you if you would have had to play one of these two. |
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Post by melbournelad on Sept 6, 2017 4:42:04 GMT 1
Yeah I saw your previous post and that does boost the confidence but these playoff games teams can find something and perform above. But a game against the U.S or Honduras should be a win. Need to get over Syria first. Yeah, good luck. Watching Costa Rica v Mexico right now and the game is at around 3 times the pace and quality of that earlier pub game. I'd be less confident for you if you would have had to play one of these two. Definitely different level but to be fair the Socceroos are pretty rubbish (Mooy excluded). |
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Post by mozzie on Sept 6, 2017 7:05:15 GMT 1
Love to know how much distance Aaron covered against Thailand, that was an amazingly open game of football, especially the second half when Australia were totally committed to attack.
Probably a good thing the manager is going, the team needs a bit more of a measured approach re risk taking.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 6, 2017 8:16:29 GMT 1
The guy is just class. We are so lucky to have him at Town as he starts to hit his peak and it is also great timing that he is with us at the same time as Wagner.
Granted he wouldn't have been with us on day one had it not been for Wagner and the staff but he just seems to fit perfectly the system we play.
There will be games he wont play due to injury, suspension (maybe jet lag) and no doubt if we lose those games people will definitely say 'we have no one to replace Mooy', truth is we don't but not all players are replaceable.
The guy is an absolute engine and no doubt will move on at some stage. The longer we can keep him at the club the better and i will just enjoy watching the guy while he is in blue and white.
Watched Town since early 80's but he will always be in my favourite 11.
We are very lucky to be able to watch these type of players down Leeds Road, i hope people appreciate players of this calibre do not come along often and while he is in our team anything is possible as he can make anything happen out of nothing.
From a selfish point of view i really hope the Aussies make the World Cup just so a larger audience can see what we see week in week out, a bloody magician with the ball.
Long may it continue.
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Post by ozterrier on Sept 6, 2017 12:43:08 GMT 1
You should be able to handle Syria, shouldn't you ? On the balance of things we should but in one off games anything is possible. But the second playoff series against the concacaf side is no walk in the park either. I guess we are still alive and have a good chance of getting to the World Cup but only losing 1 game doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Drawing games we should have won is our own fault. We've been unluckier! Qualifying for the '98 World Cup Australia didn't lose a single game and still didn't qualify  I don't watch as many Socceroos games as I used to as I live in the US now - but from what I HAVE seen we look pretty poor in all honesty. I know Thailand. I don't really hold any fears for Syria, but playoff games against the US or Honduras make me a little nervous regardless of how poor they seem to have been. I have no doubt the US are better than us - and Honduras seems like a fairly hostile away trip! |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 6, 2017 18:36:37 GMT 1
Moooy might be better than Clayton ? Worlds apart, Mooy miles ahead physically and technically. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 6, 2017 18:37:53 GMT 1
Moooy might be better than Clayton ? Worlds apart, Mooy miles ahead physically and technically. Yup I agree now, I used to love Clayts but Mooy is on different level. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 6, 2017 18:42:59 GMT 1
Moooy might be better than Clayton ? Worlds apart, Mooy miles ahead physically and technically. Why compare them - different types of players. Clayton and Mooy would make a decent pairing. |
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Post by ldotm on Sept 6, 2017 18:45:46 GMT 1
Clayton never seems to have pushed on after us, just been steady for Boro. Might be down to playing a different role, but he's only scored once in 105 games for them and he used to chip in with a beauty often for us.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 6, 2017 19:27:32 GMT 1
Worlds apart, Mooy miles ahead physically and technically. Why compare them - different types of players. Clayton and Mooy would make a decent pairing. Not in the premier league they wouldn't. It's a bridge too far for clayts.............decent championship player but rarely looked the part in an admittedly poor boro prem team. Jury still out a bit on mooy for me.........had a great start and unlike clayts looks the part right now but will reserve judgment til we've played 15/20 games. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 6, 2017 20:55:23 GMT 1
Why compare them - different types of players. Clayton and Mooy would make a decent pairing. Not in the premier league they wouldn't. It's a bridge too far for clayts.............decent championship player but rarely looked the part in an admittedly poor boro prem team. Jury still out a bit on mooy for me.........had a great start and unlike clayts looks the part right now but will reserve judgment til we've played 15/20 games. Just shows how far we've come if jury is still out on Mooy. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 6, 2017 21:18:29 GMT 1
Worlds apart, Mooy miles ahead physically and technically. Why compare them - different types of players. Clayton and Mooy would make a decent pairing. I'm not sure Clayton would have had the athleticism to flourish in Wagner's system, he had all the technical ability in the world but not the physical and athletic prowess that our current squad show in spades. IIRC Clayton slowed the game down at every opportunity, he could pick a pass to unlock any defence, but pressing and tackling were 2 of his weaker attributes IMO. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 6, 2017 21:34:57 GMT 1
Why compare them - different types of players. Clayton and Mooy would make a decent pairing. Not in the premier league they wouldn't. It's a bridge too far for clayts.............decent championship player but rarely looked the part in an admittedly poor boro prem team. Jury still out a bit on mooy for me.........had a great start and unlike clayts looks the part right now but will reserve judgment til we've played 15/20 games. Depends who you are comparing to. Thought Clayton played his role ok in the Premier League - just not much around him at Boro and a negative manager. Would Mooy and Clayton be a better pairing than Mooy and Hogg? |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 7, 2017 10:03:33 GMT 1
Not in the premier league they wouldn't. It's a bridge too far for clayts.............decent championship player but rarely looked the part in an admittedly poor boro prem team. Jury still out a bit on mooy for me.........had a great start and unlike clayts looks the part right now but will reserve judgment til we've played 15/20 games. Depends who you are comparing to. Thought Clayton played his role ok in the Premier League - just not much around him at Boro and a negative manager. Would Mooy and Clayton be a better pairing than Mooy and Hogg? Not for me no - there is a need to win the ball back promptly in our system and clayts doesn't provide that for me. I didn't think Billing would do it, but thus far hes been excellent and Hogg will have a job displacing him at present. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 7, 2017 10:37:14 GMT 1
Depends who you are comparing to. Thought Clayton played his role ok in the Premier League - just not much around him at Boro and a negative manager. Would Mooy and Clayton be a better pairing than Mooy and Hogg? Not for me no - there is a need to win the ball back promptly in our system and clayts doesn't provide that for me. I didn't think Billing would do it, but thus far hes been excellent and Hogg will have a job displacing him at present. I agree Shawsie - I'm happy with Mooy and Billing and can't see Hoggy getting straight back in. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 7, 2017 12:16:04 GMT 1
On the balance of things we should but in one off games anything is possible. But the second playoff series against the concacaf side is no walk in the park either. I guess we are still alive and have a good chance of getting to the World Cup but only losing 1 game doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Drawing games we should have won is our own fault. We've been unluckier! Qualifying for the '98 World Cup Australia didn't lose a single game and still didn't qualify I don't watch as many Socceroos games as I used to as I live in the US now - but from what I HAVE seen we look pretty poor in all honesty. I know Thailand. I don't really hold any fears for Syria, but playoff games against the US or Honduras make me a little nervous regardless of how poor they seem to have been. I have no doubt the US are better than us - and Honduras seems like a fairly hostile away trip! Aye but weren't those the days when you used to spend qualifying beating Vanuatu and the Cook Islands 23-0? |
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Post by ozterrier on Sept 7, 2017 12:38:41 GMT 1
We've been unluckier! Qualifying for the '98 World Cup Australia didn't lose a single game and still didn't qualify I don't watch as many Socceroos games as I used to as I live in the US now - but from what I HAVE seen we look pretty poor in all honesty. I know Thailand. I don't really hold any fears for Syria, but playoff games against the US or Honduras make me a little nervous regardless of how poor they seem to have been. I have no doubt the US are better than us - and Honduras seems like a fairly hostile away trip! Aye but weren't those the days when you used to spend qualifying beating Vanuatu and the Cook Islands 23-0? Aye! Then we'd have to have a playoff against another confederation (in 1997 it was v Asia and we drew with Iran twice and lost out on away goals). In more recent times it was against South America. We'll now go into a playoff again - but at least there was the opportunity to qualify automatically if we were good enough. Oceania doesn't have that opportunity (probably fairly). Its a topic for another day (and probably another forum!) but Oceania should probably just been absorbed into Asia anyway. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 7, 2017 12:41:36 GMT 1
Aye but weren't those the days when you used to spend qualifying beating Vanuatu and the Cook Islands 23-0? Aye! Then we'd have to have a playoff against another confederation (in 1997 it was v Asia and we drew with Iran twice and lost out on away goals). In more recent times it was against South America. We'll now go into a playoff again - but at least there was the opportunity to qualify automatically if we were good enough. Oceania doesn't have that opportunity (probably fairly). Its a topic for another day (and probably another forum!) but Oceania should probably just been absorbed into Asia anyway. Bit of a trek for the Iranians to make Vanuatu away! |
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Post by ozterrier on Sept 7, 2017 12:53:21 GMT 1
Aye! Then we'd have to have a playoff against another confederation (in 1997 it was v Asia and we drew with Iran twice and lost out on away goals). In more recent times it was against South America. We'll now go into a playoff again - but at least there was the opportunity to qualify automatically if we were good enough. Oceania doesn't have that opportunity (probably fairly). Its a topic for another day (and probably another forum!) but Oceania should probably just been absorbed into Asia anyway. Bit of a trek for the Iranians to make Vanuatu away! Not that much further than Guam who's in the AFC... They could make it work I'm sure (if they wanted to - no idea if there's any appetite for it though). The Asian Champions League is split into East & West for early rounds - they could easily do something like that in the early stages of international qualifying also. Beirut to Melbourne is about 14,000km so there's already some long hauls in the confederation... |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 4, 2018 8:13:40 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on May 4, 2018 8:27:15 GMT 1
But have they got someone lined up to take over after Xmas when he does his disappearing trick like he has for the last 2 seasons ? |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 4, 2018 13:43:31 GMT 1
Not that I want him to leave, but if he was to go i’d fancy Hoyle’s chances with the West Ham hierarchy to pull off a ridiculous deal for us.
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 4, 2018 13:46:48 GMT 1
Been anonymous since Christmas.
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 5, 2018 1:30:21 GMT 1
One of the pundit shows was showing some analysis about Huddersfield and it showed why they thought we were ineffective. It showed our front 4 spread across in a line level with the opposition backline. It showed Hogg drop in to make a back 5 level with the oppositions forward. Then there was Mooy in the middle of the pitch, surrounded by 5 midfielders. Ineffective because of our style of play.
And just wanted to add a late edit, we had the ball.
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