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Post by bluestripe on Apr 16, 2021 21:36:49 GMT 1
I'm possibly not the one to be sticking up for those 2 😉😁 It really makes you wonder how the fuck we went up with Kachunga Brown Smith VLP Ward as regular starters. Hefele Lowe Wells Palmer, none of them exactly gone on to be household names.. If ever a team just jelled it was that one. I loved, loved that season. I know I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed it more than being in the Prem. Just nice to be at the right end of a league table for a season.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 16, 2021 21:38:05 GMT 1
I'm possibly not the one to be sticking up for those 2 😉😁 Is your opinion still the same on bacuna ? I still think he's the most talented player we have but he seems to have just played the same game over and over again this season, flicks and turns that don't come off but without the good bits he used to come up with. Every game I hope he's going to find that killer pass that only he sees or sticks on in but he just ends up giving the ball away. As I said on a thread the other day, Hogg is the only regular midfielder I'd be upset about leaving.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 16, 2021 21:48:07 GMT 1
Is your opinion still the same on bacuna ? I still think he's the most talented player we have but he seems to have just played the same game over and over again this season, flicks and turns that don't come off but without the good bits he used to come up with. Every game I hope he's going to find that killer pass that only he sees or sticks on in but he just ends up giving the ball away. As I said on a thread the other day, Hogg is the only regular midfielder I'd be upset about leaving. We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again
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Post by space hardware on Apr 16, 2021 22:00:48 GMT 1
I still think he's the most talented player we have but he seems to have just played the same game over and over again this season, flicks and turns that don't come off but without the good bits he used to come up with. Every game I hope he's going to find that killer pass that only he sees or sticks on in but he just ends up giving the ball away. As I said on a thread the other day, Hogg is the only regular midfielder I'd be upset about leaving. We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again Spot on there but I must have missed the games he's bossed in the Championship 😳
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 16, 2021 22:03:34 GMT 1
Ok maybe I over egged the pudding.. he had influence though. And some of the goals were sublime
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 16, 2021 22:03:57 GMT 1
We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again Spot on there but I must have missed the games he's bossed in the Championship 😳 Just a bit of something now and again that leads to something would do. Bit more general interest in the game would be something.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 16, 2021 22:07:02 GMT 1
Ok maybe I over egged the pudding.. he had influence though. And some of the goals were sublime Yeah, he went on a run, think it was autumn 2019 under the Cowleys, when he scored every other week and they weren't just tap ins either.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 16, 2021 22:10:43 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer
We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 16, 2021 22:13:37 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table Take some solace in the fact he’s pretty unlikely to get higher than a League 1 club
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 16, 2021 22:13:51 GMT 1
I still think he's the most talented player we have but he seems to have just played the same game over and over again this season, flicks and turns that don't come off but without the good bits he used to come up with. Every game I hope he's going to find that killer pass that only he sees or sticks on in but he just ends up giving the ball away. As I said on a thread the other day, Hogg is the only regular midfielder I'd be upset about leaving. We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again Can't argue with any of that mate. And the worst bit is they are my 2 favourite players in the squad, the only ones capable of doing something different.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 16, 2021 22:14:18 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table And he's bloody injured again too 🙄
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 16, 2021 22:16:35 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table Take some solace in the fact he’s pretty unlikely to get higher than a League 1 club Someone in the championship will take him on in the hope he can turn back in to the player he was 5 years ago. He will get a deal on close to 10k a week which is a joke given his performances while at Town
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 16, 2021 22:19:45 GMT 1
Spot on there but I must have missed the games he's bossed in the Championship 😳 Just a bit of something now and again that leads to something would do. Bit more general interest in the game would be something. It's hard to like players who have that "too cool for school" vibe going on. Grant was the same, but at least he did his job regularly. The most animated and engaged (in a positive way) I have seen Bacuna was in the Prem when I seem to recall he played at right back for the second half of a game. He was trying to gee up the crowd. He played well that night
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Post by Wingman on Apr 16, 2021 22:29:05 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table And he's bloody injured again too 🙄 He’d be bloody injured if I ever see him if we are in the same vicinity. Wage stealing dwarf bastard.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 16, 2021 22:30:23 GMT 1
It really makes you wonder how the fuck we went up with Kachunga Brown Smith VLP Ward as regular starters. Hefele Lowe Wells Palmer, none of them exactly gone on to be household names.. If ever a team just jelled it was that one. I loved, loved that season. I know I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed it more than being in the Prem. Just nice to be at the right end of a league table for a season. I wouldn’t say you were in the minority. It was a wonderful season, and nice to have teams fear playing us for a change.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 16, 2021 22:33:03 GMT 1
Just a bit of something now and again that leads to something would do. Bit more general interest in the game would be something. It's hard to like players who have that "too cool for school" vibe going on. Grant was the same, but at least he did his job regularly. The most animated and engaged (in a positive way) I have seen Bacuna was in the Prem when I seem to recall he played at right back for the second half of a game. He was trying to gee up the crowd. He played well that night I want to like anyone who plays for town but he has to realise he may be a very good player in a good, successful team, unfortunately he and us are where we are and some graft is going to be required over the next few games. He and the rest will have to play the percentages better for a while. The one fancy flick if it works has to be followed by a good pass or a shot, not a giveaway after another flick.
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Post by tobbyg on Apr 16, 2021 22:58:29 GMT 1
We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again Can't argue with any of that mate. And the worst bit is they are my 2 favourite players in the squad, the only ones capable of doing something different. I don’t deny they both have talent but favourite players in the squad? They’re both absolute wastemen, I think Rowes looked to make things happen more than these two combined this season with a fraction of the game time. They’re both braindead mercenaries.
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Post by kayeb222 on Apr 16, 2021 23:12:52 GMT 1
It really makes you wonder how the fuck we went up with Kachunga Brown Smith VLP Ward as regular starters. Hefele Lowe Wells Palmer, none of them exactly gone on to be household names.. If ever a team just jelled it was that one. I loved, loved that season. I know I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed it more than being in the Prem. Just nice to be at the right end of a league table for a season. I loved it 2,much more enjoyable than our time in the premier League. It's the only time during my 35 years as a town fan where I thought "fuck me,We have a good team!!!"
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 17, 2021 0:00:03 GMT 1
We've seen him hold his own in the prem . Boss games in the Championship and score incredible goals. Compare that to 2020-21 Bacuna . Makes me so angry . Same goes for mbenza. Pre Xmas, playing for a deal /move . Post Xmas it seems obvious he has now sorted his future and downed tools again . Makes me so mad that these kids earn lottery winning contracts and then have no qualms betraying the supporters with half arsed displays. IF we ever go up again i hope to god we change the model and are never held hostage by these immoral saps ever again Can't argue with any of that mate. And the worst bit is they are my 2 favourite players in the squad, the only ones capable of doing something different. Wouldn't you add Koroma into that category (if he were fit)?
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 17, 2021 2:09:41 GMT 1
A couple of good results for Town tonight. Blackburn now surely safe so becomes a slightly easier fixture. Our last game v Reading is difficult but would look more reasonable if they cannot mathematically make the play-offs. Isn’t it damning how obsessed we all are with other Teams around us results. This alone says it all in terms of the complete lack of confidence many of us have in our own Team to do what is required to stay up. The reality is what is required should be easily achievable across the fixtures we have left regardless of other results.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 17, 2021 6:02:07 GMT 1
Can't argue with any of that mate. And the worst bit is they are my 2 favourite players in the squad, the only ones capable of doing something different. I don’t deny they both have talent but favourite players in the squad? They’re both absolute wastemen, I think Rowes looked to make things happen more than these two combined this season with a fraction of the game time. They’re both braindead mercenaries. The only 2 that could get me out of my seat. VLP was the same, he got all the stick but he was my favourite player when he was here.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Apr 17, 2021 6:44:18 GMT 1
It really makes you wonder how the fuck we went up with Kachunga Brown Smith VLP Ward as regular starters. Hefele Lowe Wells Palmer, none of them exactly gone on to be household names.. If ever a team just jelled it was that one. It's almost as if we had a genius for a manager It still amazes me how Wagner gets so much shit from some fans on here. The squad was nowhere near good enough to go up and then he pulls off a bigger miracle by keeping us in the Premier league. Then he gets blamed for signing diakhaby and mbenza... as if he possibly had the time to scout the players. They were just a part of a shit list of players that were presented to him. Didnt we have Limbombo or something like that at the top of our list and he proved to be another diakhaby. Wagner is the reason we got promoted and he in my eyes is the legend.
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 17, 2021 6:49:08 GMT 1
I don’t deny they both have talent but favourite players in the squad? They’re both absolute wastemen, I think Rowes looked to make things happen more than these two combined this season with a fraction of the game time. They’re both braindead mercenaries. The only 2 that could get me out of my seat. VLP was the same, he got all the stick but he was my favourite player when he was here. Me too Porro, I really liked the Guy and he was underrated by too many. He kept the ball at the right end of the pitch and I think it was ignorance by those that couldn’t see what he brought to the Team. Yes the old he couldn’t cross chestnut, if he could, he wouldn’t have been playing for us. Another I really liked was Nahki, again the deluded thought we could do better. Oh to have him starting for us today.
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 17, 2021 8:39:35 GMT 1
At least Bacuna and Mbenza have turned out. I'm more pissed off that Pritchard gets away with pretending he's injured so that he doesn't actually get injured ahead of trying to sort a new club out this summer We're paying him massive money for him to constantly tell the physios he has felt something and doesn't feel he can play. They can't exactly turn around and call him a liar but having spoken to a physio who has worked at pro clubs he says you would be amazed at how many players pull this trick when a club is struggling. If you're at the other end of the table and the going is good then you hardly see anyone on the treatment table he's been doing it going on 18 months as well. Last time he looked up for it was the start of last season under Siewert where he was bizarrely our best player in those few games at the start of the season. I remember Cowley pretty early on in his tenure alluding to this exact thing- nothing at all came up on a scan where he said he was injured but he said he felt he couldn't play. I do wonder what has gone on with him
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 17, 2021 10:38:48 GMT 1
It really makes you wonder how the fuck we went up with Kachunga Brown Smith VLP Ward as regular starters. Hefele Lowe Wells Palmer, none of them exactly gone on to be household names.. If ever a team just jelled it was that one. I loved, loved that season. I know I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed it more than being in the Prem. Just nice to be at the right end of a league table for a season. There's an old maxim that the hunt is better than the kill 😚 applies to slot of things
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Post by jonbrno on Apr 17, 2021 10:46:31 GMT 1
Defeats for Sheff Wed and Wycombe today and they will both be nearly mathematically certain of relegation. Tho Sheff Wed are home to Bristol City which I would expect them to win.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Apr 17, 2021 12:41:30 GMT 1
Sheff already up
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 17, 2021 14:27:28 GMT 1
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Post by sabailand on Apr 17, 2021 14:48:13 GMT 1
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 17, 2021 14:49:10 GMT 1
And the Bantams lose 2-1 to the mighty HTFC.
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