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Post by impact on May 15, 2021 19:27:47 GMT 1
On the Leicester goal, this guy knows his stuff on VAR.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:28:43 GMT 1
Because they are told not to raise a flag? Because the ref HAS to be in charge? Why not let the officials make the calls and get back to how we played football for well over 100 years. No if he thought it was offside he'd have raised it after the goal went in. So he didn't think it was. He made a mistake. As for the 2nd point, if the media didn't make such a big deal of the tight decisions and draw their own lines on screens to show them and bang on about them, we may well not have needed VAR. Actually, I agree with this mate. They wanted change and got something far, far worse.
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Post by Hull0Leeds4 on May 15, 2021 19:28:56 GMT 1
All it needs is a few dodgy signings, some bad luck (hi Michael Rat Oliver), injuries, a slight drop in intensity and the fact that every PL team now knows how they play and they might struggle. Here’s hoping. There is zero chance of a load of dodgy decisions going against them. 🤣
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:29:28 GMT 1
Great to see Leicester win another trophy as the acceptable face of globalisation in our national game.
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Post by space hardware on May 15, 2021 19:31:27 GMT 1
Brendan Rogers loving this opportunity to hug everyone and whisper in their ears while kissing their faces 😂 The creepiest guy in football
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 15, 2021 19:32:17 GMT 1
Great to see Leicester win another trophy as the acceptable face of globalisation in our national game. Everyone will get sick of them if they start winning loads of trophies. Fair play to them they needed to start turning that top 4/6 status by winning some trophies.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:32:36 GMT 1
No if he thought it was offside he'd have raised it after the goal went in. So he didn't think it was. He made a mistake. As for the 2nd point, if the media didn't make such a big deal of the tight decisions and draw their own lines on screens to show them and bang on about them, we may well not have needed VAR. Actually, I agree with this mate. They wanted change and got something far, far worse. The linesman was bang, bang inline. But they don't even have to bother raising the flag anymore. In fact, they daren't. Just keep quiet and let VAR sort it out. Still delighted Leicester won, mind.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2021 19:33:19 GMT 1
On the Leicester goal, this guy knows his stuff on VAR. Why is everyone ignoring the fact he turned his whole body to get his arm in the way of it. It hitting his leg about 1/100th of a second after his leg shouldn't matter for me, he intentionally made himself bigger. To add insult to injury the ball is in the net 5 seconds later. You see the ridiculous ones like Wilson's being disallowed against Liverpool and then deliberate attempts like that to make your body bigger allowed stand
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 15, 2021 19:33:58 GMT 1
Actually, I agree with this mate. They wanted change and got something far, far worse. The linesman was bang, bang inline. But they don't even have to bother raising the flag anymore. In fact, they daren't. Just keep quiet and let VAR sort it out. Still delighted Leicester won, mind. I honesty do not think the game should be giving cock hair decisions like that as offside, it's no in the interest of attacking football. VAR is being misused.
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Post by impact on May 15, 2021 19:34:14 GMT 1
The lines are measured from Chilweel's shoulder and Soyuncu's sleeve. The lines have been made closer by the stupid t-shirt line rule. And there's still a gap between them. The lines don’t fucking exist anywhere else other than at this ‘elite’ level. They are playing a different game to Town. They are playing a different game to Halifax. They are playing a different game to Golcar. They are playing a different game to Battyeford Belles under 10’s. mm’s offside ruined this game for me and has ruined the PL as well. I say this even though I wanted Leicester to win. I'd understand if it was one of the really close ones. That wasn't one of those. It looked offside by eye. Football has different rules at every level so they're all playing different games. If that's the play off final in 2017 and Reading had scored, I'd be fuming they'd won a game through an offside goal.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:34:38 GMT 1
The lines are measured from Chilweel's shoulder and Soyuncu's sleeve. The lines have been made closer by the stupid t-shirt line rule. And there's still a gap between them. The lines don’t fucking exist anywhere else other than at this ‘elite’ level. They are playing a different game to Town. They are playing a different game to Halifax. They are playing a different game to Golcar. They are playing a different game to Battyeford Belles under 10’s. mm’s offside ruined this game for me and has ruined the PL as well. I say this even though I wanted Leicester to win. Just about all major sports now use some kind of review system that makes the higher level of the pros more accountable than the rest. I believe we'll see a much fairer Prem moving forward with VAR. Leicester and West Ham's success this season is no fluke.
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Post by impact on May 15, 2021 19:35:32 GMT 1
On the Leicester goal, this guy knows his stuff on VAR. Why is everyone ignoring the fact he turned his whole body to get his arm in the way of it. It hitting his leg about 1/100th of a second after his leg shouldn't matter for me, he intentionally made himself bigger. To add insult to injury the ball is in the net 5 seconds later. You see the ridiculous ones like Wilson's being disallowed against Liverpool and then deliberate attempts like that to make your body bigger allowed stand Your complaint is with the laws, not the decision.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2021 19:36:37 GMT 1
Brendan Rogers loving this opportunity to hug everyone and whisper in their ears while kissing their faces 😂 The creepiest guy in football Beautiful human being
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Post by space hardware on May 15, 2021 19:38:14 GMT 1
😂 The creepiest guy in football Beautiful human being Stop that right now 😂
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Post by sabailand on May 15, 2021 19:38:56 GMT 1
Arm, elbow, shoulder, having a big nose...why not determine wether its offside or not by where their feet are.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:41:10 GMT 1
The linesman was bang, bang inline. But they don't even have to bother raising the flag anymore. In fact, they daren't. Just keep quiet and let VAR sort it out. Still delighted Leicester won, mind. I honesty do not think the game should be giving cock hair decisions like that as offside, it's no in the interest of attacking football. VAR is being misused. How far does a player need to be offside to be flagged?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:42:36 GMT 1
Arm, elbow, shoulder, having a big nose...why not determine wether its offside or not by where their feet are. Same problem shifted to the feet which makes it much harder to quantify! Jeezuz.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:43:57 GMT 1
😂 The creepiest guy in football Beautiful human being He will deffo be getting in the bath or showers with the lads right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:44:51 GMT 1
Arm, elbow, shoulder, having a big nose...why not determine wether its offside or not by where their feet are. Or.....drumroll....maybe let the linesman call it?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2021 19:46:44 GMT 1
I honesty do not think the game should be giving cock hair decisions like that as offside, it's no in the interest of attacking football. VAR is being misused. How far does a player need to be offside to be flagged? What makes football exciting? Goals So the offside law should be written in such a way that produces more goals rather than chalks them off for ridiculous margins. It was originally brought in to stop players just standing miles up the pitch goal hogging or whatever you want to call it, not to penalise someone for being a mm offside. They need to somehow figure out a consistent way of applying a daylight ruling. Not easy but it will improve the game
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Post by impact on May 15, 2021 19:46:51 GMT 1
Arm, elbow, shoulder, having a big nose...why not determine wether its offside or not by where their feet are. Same problem shifted to the feet which makes it much harder to quantify! Jeezuz. It's an easier sell though. A lot of the current anger comes from arms and shoulders and people not understanding how the angle of the camera changes perspective. I'd change it to feet. It's simpler all round.
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Post by 28901 on May 15, 2021 19:48:10 GMT 1
The lines are measured from Chilweel's shoulder and Soyuncu's sleeve. The lines have been made closer by the stupid t-shirt line rule. And there's still a gap between them. The lines don’t fucking exist anywhere else other than at this ‘elite’ level. They are playing a different game to Town. They are playing a different game to Halifax. They are playing a different game to Golcar. They are playing a different game to Battyeford Belles under 10’s. mm’s offside ruined this game for me and has ruined the PL as well. I say this even though I wanted Leicester to win. Totally this. Soon no one will ever celebrate a goal in the ground.its the officials opinion right or wrong. It makes me puke.Ive stopped watching premier league because of it. I despise it passionately.
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Post by k1man999 on May 15, 2021 19:48:29 GMT 1
Not sure the issue with the VAR decision could tell straight away was offside without drawing lines. Don't get me wrong all this mm of a shirt crap does my head in and spoils football but that one was straight forward watching it live.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2021 19:48:42 GMT 1
Same problem shifted to the feet which makes it much harder to quantify! Jeezuz. It's an easier sell though. A lot of the current anger comes from arms and shoulders and people not understanding how the angle of the camera changes perspective. I'd change it to feet. It's simpler all round. The issue with the camera angles isnt helped by Stockley Park supposedly having different images/angles than what the public see. How can that be right? Straight away you're creating an issue
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:49:28 GMT 1
How far does a player need to be offside to be flagged? What makes football exciting? Goals So the offside law should be written in such a way that produces more goals rather than chalks them off for ridiculous margins. It was originally brought in to stop players just standing miles up the pitch goal hogging or whatever you want to call it, not to penalise someone for being a mm offside. They need to somehow figure out a consistent way of applying a daylight ruling. Not easy but it will improve the game What about night matches?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 15, 2021 19:50:14 GMT 1
What makes football exciting? Goals So the offside law should be written in such a way that produces more goals rather than chalks them off for ridiculous margins. It was originally brought in to stop players just standing miles up the pitch goal hogging or whatever you want to call it, not to penalise someone for being a mm offside. They need to somehow figure out a consistent way of applying a daylight ruling. Not easy but it will improve the game What about night matches? Damn, plan scuppered
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Post by 28901 on May 15, 2021 19:50:22 GMT 1
Arm, elbow, shoulder, having a big nose...why not determine wether its offside or not by where their feet are. Or.....drumroll....maybe let the linesman call it? Yep. Right or wrong. In the opinion of the ref used to be written in the rule book. Thats opinion not fact. If they get too many wrong opinions sack them.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:50:54 GMT 1
Not sure the issue with the VAR decision could tell straight away was offside without drawing lines. Don't get me wrong all this mm of a shirt crap does my head in and spoils football but that one was straight forward watching it live. So, for about the tenth time, why didn’t the linesman raise his flag?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:53:41 GMT 1
What about night matches? Damn, plan scuppered Floodlight ruling?
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Post by stanton1969 on May 15, 2021 19:54:37 GMT 1
Offside is binary. You're offside or you're onside. Doesn't matter whether it is by an inch. That is the law of the game. It also doesn't matter what you use as the part of the body that counts - there will always be a "line" drawn somewhere relative to something that determines whether a player is offside.
At least offside/onside is a fact. My real issue with VAR is subjective penalty and red card decisions. They are still not consistent.
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