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Post by crux on Mar 5, 2021 18:01:17 GMT 1
Another example highlighting how little thought this t-shirt line law got before being brought in. Technically with the current processes and laws it is offside. Like others before it is a joke. Change offsides to being solely to do with the location of feet. No guessing at points, no having to draw lines from body parts in the air. Under the Laws of the game, it's not offside - arms and hands of the players or goalkeepers do not count in offside decisions. It's the f*cking stupid made up VAR crap about 'T-shirt' line that has appeared to overrule the laws of the game. Hopefully towards the end of the season, when the result of the match won't affect relegation or a European place, a team will walk off the field in protest to one of these bullshit VAR 'decisions' like this one, or the Fulham goal that was ruled out for 'handball' in the build-up.
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Post by impact on Mar 5, 2021 18:47:54 GMT 1
Another example highlighting how little thought this t-shirt line law got before being brought in. Technically with the current processes and laws it is offside. Like others before it is a joke. Change offsides to being solely to do with the location of feet. No guessing at points, no having to draw lines from body parts in the air. Under the Laws of the game, it's not offside - arms and hands of the players or goalkeepers do not count in offside decisions. It's the f*cking stupid made up VAR crap about 'T-shirt' line that has appeared to overrule the laws of the game. Hopefully towards the end of the season, when the result of the match won't affect relegation or a European place, a team will walk off the field in protest to one of these bullshit VAR 'decisions' like this one, or the Fulham goal that was ruled out for 'handball' in the build-up. That's not correct. He could score with that part of his arm. That was the law change. Because he can score with it it counts for offside. It is the correct decision under the current laws.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 5, 2021 19:19:11 GMT 1
This is going to be interesting. Rotherham are going to end up with a lot of games to play in a very short space of time. Could this work in our favour?
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Post by Dan on Mar 5, 2021 19:20:19 GMT 1
This is going to be interesting. Rotherham are going to end up with a lot of games to play in a very short space of time. Their game against Luton postponed as well now, so we'll play twice before they play again. Could really do with widening that gap.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 5, 2021 19:21:24 GMT 1
This is going to be interesting. Rotherham are going to end up with a lot of games to play in a very short space of time. Could this work in our favour? Depends how the fixtures fall. If their backlog is against tough opponents then it doesn't really matter as they would have been unlikely to pick much up against those teams anyway. It does give them a decent rest before a winnable game at Luton on Tuesday
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 5, 2021 19:38:07 GMT 1
I also agree with you about the offside rule. I've said all along that the easiest way to deal with it is to look at feet only. Then there's no silliness of drawing lines across and up the screen to measure whether a players armpit hair has strayed half an inch offside. Easy to change the law. Easy to word the law. Easy to implement when using VAR, not so easy at lower league level but not ridiculous. Easy to understand. You are a fool Ilson, a fool I say.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 6, 2021 6:58:48 GMT 1
Could this work in our favour? Depends how the fixtures fall. If their backlog is against tough opponents then it doesn't really matter as they would have been unlikely to pick much up against those teams anyway. It does give them a decent rest before a winnable game at Luton on Tuesday Luton game also postponed so gives them a longer break before an even more winnable home game vs Coventry. I appreciate that any team could suffer from an outbreak and a few have (Derby, Sheff W, Villa, Man C etc). But at what point do the EFL, PL say I'm sorry but you either play youth players or you forfeit the game? Rotherham are now on their 2nd outbreak in 3 months as well as having 2 or 3 games postponed because of the weather. At Championship level surely 'frozen pitch shouldn't be an excuse, particularly in a new(ish) stadium? Town have done well at keeping their players safe through this, I think Hamer had to isolate but don't remember any others. So we have had to play all our games with no postponements but with an injury list as long as your arm, mainly due to the congestion and probably our own misjudgement on the training regime. Rotherham are now on their 3rd (supposedly unavoidable) winter break. It feels way too convenient this time though.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 6, 2021 10:03:54 GMT 1
Depends how the fixtures fall. If their backlog is against tough opponents then it doesn't really matter as they would have been unlikely to pick much up against those teams anyway. It does give them a decent rest before a winnable game at Luton on Tuesday Luton game also postponed so gives them a longer break before an even more winnable home game vs Coventry. I appreciate that any team could suffer from an outbreak and a few have (Derby, Sheff W, Villa, Man C etc). But at what point do the EFL, PL say I'm sorry but you either play youth players or you forfeit the game? Rotherham are now on their 2nd outbreak in 3 months as well as having 2 or 3 games postponed because of the weather. At Championship level surely 'frozen pitch shouldn't be an excuse, particularly in a new(ish) stadium? Town have done well at keeping their players safe through this, I think Hamer had to isolate but don't remember any others. So we have had to play all our games with no postponements but with an injury list as long as your arm, mainly due to the congestion and probably our own misjudgement on the training regime. Rotherham are now on their 3rd (supposedly unavoidable) winter break. It feels way too convenient this time though. Might not do Rotherham any favours having to play a large number of games in a shorter space of time.
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Post by detox on Mar 6, 2021 10:58:30 GMT 1
Luton game also postponed so gives them a longer break before an even more winnable home game vs Coventry. I appreciate that any team could suffer from an outbreak and a few have (Derby, Sheff W, Villa, Man C etc). But at what point do the EFL, PL say I'm sorry but you either play youth players or you forfeit the game? Rotherham are now on their 2nd outbreak in 3 months as well as having 2 or 3 games postponed because of the weather. At Championship level surely 'frozen pitch shouldn't be an excuse, particularly in a new(ish) stadium? Town have done well at keeping their players safe through this, I think Hamer had to isolate but don't remember any others. So we have had to play all our games with no postponements but with an injury list as long as your arm, mainly due to the congestion and probably our own misjudgement on the training regime. Rotherham are now on their 3rd (supposedly unavoidable) winter break. It feels way too convenient this time though. Might not do Rotherham any favours having to play a large number of games in a shorter space of time. Rotherham already have 8 games in April, season ends May 8th , and now have another game to fit in..
They play 13th, 16th and 20th March..then it's international break... then they have games 2nd, 5th, 10th, 13th, 17th, 21st, 24th and 27th of April then 1st and 8th May..
the Luton game will have to be between 1st and 8th May
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Mar 6, 2021 11:35:26 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sort of run-in that Dynamo Dresden had last year (8 games in 22 days), it was too much for them and they ended up being relegated (among a torrent of rage, Chris Löwe exploded in one famous interview). Maybe Rotherham have more depth in their squad - they'll certainly need it!
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Post by boooothy on Mar 6, 2021 13:29:43 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sort of run-in that Dynamo Dresden had last year (8 games in 22 days), it was too much for them and they ended up being relegated (among a torrent of rage, Chris Löwe exploded in one famous interview). Maybe Rotherham have more depth in their squad - they'll certainly need it! The flip side is they could end up playing against teams who’s season is over and no incentive to play tired players.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 6, 2021 13:30:25 GMT 1
Defeats for Birmingham and Wednesday would be very welcome today.
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 13:40:12 GMT 1
Defeats for Birmingham and Wednesday would be very welcome today. Both got tough away games at Barnsley and Reading. Hopefully no shocks in those two. Coventry v Derby today as well.
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Post by digs on Mar 6, 2021 13:51:44 GMT 1
Defeats for Birmingham and Wednesday would be very welcome today. Both got tough away games at Barnsley and Reading. Hopefully no shocks in those two. Coventry v Derby today as well. anything but a Coventry win?
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 13:52:15 GMT 1
Watford 1-0 up on Forest. Can't see Forest going down, but they're only two points infront of us as it stands. The more teams that are in the relegation battle the better.
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 13:52:36 GMT 1
Both got tough away games at Barnsley and Reading. Hopefully no shocks in those two. Coventry v Derby today as well. anything but a Coventry win? Definitely.
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Post by digs on Mar 6, 2021 13:57:35 GMT 1
Forest losing,,they got Reading Norwich Brentford and Cardiff next,,we should be looking to go above them soon
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 14:04:08 GMT 1
Forest losing,,they got Reading Norwich Brentford and Cardiff next,,we should be looking to go above them soon Tough run of games. And we go to their place in mid-April.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Mar 6, 2021 14:11:46 GMT 1
Wow, if you think some of Town’s brain explosions have been bad to concede a goal, Arsenal have just conceded a shocker.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 6, 2021 14:12:39 GMT 1
Wow, if you think some of Town’s brain explosions have been bad to concede a goal, Arsenal have just conceded a shocker. Xhaka with his best Sarr impression
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Post by rocky on Mar 6, 2021 14:14:33 GMT 1
anything but a Coventry win? Definitely. I’m not so sure about that. A low scoring Coventry win keeps us above both of them. Tough one though, you can make a case for all 3 outcomes.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 6, 2021 14:15:34 GMT 1
Might not do Rotherham any favours having to play a large number of games in a shorter space of time. Rotherham already have 8 games in April, season ends May 8th , and now have another game to fit in.. They play 13th, 16th and 20th March..then it's international break... then they have games 2nd, 5th, 10th, 13th, 17th, 21st, 24th and 27th of April then 1st and 8th May.. the Luton game will have to be between 1st and 8th May
Let's hope they don't pick up any injuries.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Mar 6, 2021 14:19:19 GMT 1
Wow, if you think some of Town’s brain explosions have been bad to concede a goal, Arsenal have just conceded a shocker. Xhaka with his best Sarr impression I don’t even know if Sarr could achieve that!
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 14:24:33 GMT 1
I’m not so sure about that. A low scoring Coventry win keeps us above both of them. Tough one though, you can make a case for all 3 outcomes. I see what you're saying, but I'd rather keep Coventry three points behind us. They have a worse goal difference too. Although it would be good to keep Derby below us I think, on balance, Coventry are more likely to be our rivals for a bottom three spot.
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 6, 2021 14:38:04 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sort of run-in that Dynamo Dresden had last year (8 games in 22 days), it was too much for them and they ended up being relegated (among a torrent of rage, Chris Löwe exploded in one famous interview). Maybe Rotherham have more depth in their squad - they'll certainly need it! The flip side is they could end up playing against teams who’s season is over and no incentive to play tired players. Very true. And if they know they ony need three wins by then what's the betting they put also rest players in certain games anyway.
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Post by impact on Mar 6, 2021 14:58:07 GMT 1
So what's the difference between that and the David Luiz foul he got sent off for?
Saka has put his foot down in the path of the Burnley player attempting to shoot. We know intent doesn't matter. So why isn't it a penalty?
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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 6, 2021 15:03:08 GMT 1
How is the Burnley handball not a penalty? VAR is shockingly inconsistent
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Post by impact on Mar 6, 2021 15:09:03 GMT 1
How is the Burnley handball not a penalty? VAR is shockingly inconsistent VAR doing what it should. Wasn't clear and obvious so don't get involved. Came at the arm from a yard. If only more would do that.
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Post by impact on Mar 6, 2021 15:13:59 GMT 1
And that is exactly what VAR is for.
Arsenal awarded a penalty for handball and a red to Burnley.
It clearly hits him on the shoulder. Both overturned.
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Post by crux on Mar 6, 2021 15:15:03 GMT 1
How is the Burnley handball not a penalty? VAR is shockingly inconsistent VAR doing what it should. Wasn't clear and obvious so don't get involved. Came at the arm from a yard. If only more would do that. But his arm was out at a right angle to his body and stopped the ball going beyond him and the Arsenal player was then through on goal.
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