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Post by Porrohman on Mar 27, 2021 20:59:37 GMT 1
Pipa on the bench tonight for Spain U21
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 27, 2021 22:25:22 GMT 1
Tell me, how many domestic games have not gone ahead because of internationals? That will be zero, then. I'd prefer England to play home games at Wembley on Saturdays at 3pm, but I can accept I can't always get what I want. Pub teams? England have always played the "pub teams" as you call them. My regret about Thursday is we didn't play the full side and push 15 past 'em. I think tha's moaning abart nowt. Your missing my point. More is less. There are far more countries in Europe than their used to be. I like domestic football on a Saturday afternoon. I'm lost without it. That's all There are still 46 games a season. Can you agree on that? Then there are the internationals on top. More is less? What tf is that supposed to mean?
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 27, 2021 22:29:31 GMT 1
Tell me, how many domestic games have not gone ahead because of internationals? That will be zero, then. I'd prefer England to play home games at Wembley on Saturdays at 3pm, but I can accept I can't always get what I want. Pub teams? England have always played the "pub teams" as you call them. My regret about Thursday is we didn't play the full side and push 15 past 'em. I think tha's moaning abart nowt. Every pointless international break means all PL and Championship games don't go ahead and we have to suffer England on the telly instead. Again; How many Pl and Championship games don't go ahead? Oh. That would be zero. You don't have to watch England if you don't want to. Do summat else. Moaning for moaning's sake.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Mar 27, 2021 22:41:55 GMT 1
Ireland beaten at home to Luxembourg, Irish squad looks as weak as I can remember but that’s still a shocker for them.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 27, 2021 22:54:12 GMT 1
Pipa nearly got a last minute winner
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 27, 2021 23:00:52 GMT 1
Every pointless international break means all PL and Championship games don't go ahead and we have to suffer England on the telly instead. Again; How many Pl and Championship games don't go ahead? Oh. That would be zero. You don't have to watch England if you don't want to. Do summat else. Moaning for moaning's sake. I don't watch England but the PL and Championship would have played if it wasn't an international break. They used to manage to play the international games midweek when it was the pinnacle of football, now it's not even close to it.
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Post by Stewpot on Mar 27, 2021 23:06:26 GMT 1
Cowleys off to a good start at Pompey, away win with 10 men. Hhmm!
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 27, 2021 23:25:37 GMT 1
Again; How many Pl and Championship games don't go ahead? Oh. That would be zero. You don't have to watch England if you don't want to. Do summat else. Moaning for moaning's sake. I don't watch England but the PL and Championship would have played if it wasn't an international break. They used to manage to play the international games midweek when it was the pinnacle of football, now it's not even close to it. Those PL and Champiomship games will still go ahead. You can watch them another day. Back in those halcyon days of midweek internationals you could not have watched 10% of the games you do now. You have missed nothing. NOTHING. Other people have enjoyed other games this weekend that you don't want to watch. Are you so selfish that every football watching opportunity has to suit you?
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 0:22:05 GMT 1
I don't watch England but the PL and Championship would have played if it wasn't an international break. They used to manage to play the international games midweek when it was the pinnacle of football, now it's not even close to it. Those PL and Champiomship games will still go ahead. You can watch them another day. Back in those halcyon days of midweek internationals you could not have watched 10% of the games you do now. You have missed nothing. NOTHING. Other people have enjoyed other games this weekend that you don't want to watch. Are you so selfish that every football watching opportunity has to suit you? I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England.
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 28, 2021 0:28:34 GMT 1
Those PL and Champiomship games will still go ahead. You can watch them another day. Back in those halcyon days of midweek internationals you could not have watched 10% of the games you do now. You have missed nothing. NOTHING. Other people have enjoyed other games this weekend that you don't want to watch. Are you so selfish that every football watching opportunity has to suit you? I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England (so would I) I'd rather Town won than England. (so would I) I'd rather Town won something than England (so would I). If you don't like that I couldn’t give a flying fuck (chill Winston, we are both on the same team)
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Post by 28901 on Mar 28, 2021 1:22:30 GMT 1
Your missing my point. More is less. There are far more countries in Europe than their used to be. I like domestic football on a Saturday afternoon. I'm lost without it. That's all There are still 46 games a season. Can you agree on that? Then there are the internationals on top. More is less? What tf is that supposed to mean? I cant be bothered to be honest. Forget it.
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Post by est1908 on Mar 28, 2021 1:40:10 GMT 1
Those PL and Champiomship games will still go ahead. You can watch them another day. Back in those halcyon days of midweek internationals you could not have watched 10% of the games you do now. You have missed nothing. NOTHING. Other people have enjoyed other games this weekend that you don't want to watch. Are you so selfish that every football watching opportunity has to suit you? I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England. We all would. International matches have to be played though, to qualify for international competitions. So that every 2 years, we can have parties/BBQ's and watch football in the summer. I'm sure you can understand that?
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Post by digs on Mar 28, 2021 9:23:33 GMT 1
Those PL and Champiomship games will still go ahead. You can watch them another day. Back in those halcyon days of midweek internationals you could not have watched 10% of the games you do now. You have missed nothing. NOTHING. Other people have enjoyed other games this weekend that you don't want to watch. Are you so selfish that every football watching opportunity has to suit you? I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England. I'd rather England win a world cup or Euro final than say Town win a game that doesn't affect us getting promoted or relegated
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Post by blue1003 on Mar 28, 2021 9:30:17 GMT 1
No sure what this discussion is about, but Wilson left Town for Everton well before O’Grady left for Leeds. Yes you are right. Given the distance in time I should have checked before posting rather than relying on memory. Apologies. Ray Wilson made his England debut on 9 April 1960 v. Scotland and his last England appearance whilst still at Town was on 6 June 1964 v. Argentina. He left for Everton that month. Mike O'Grady's England debut was on 20 Oct 1962 v. Northern Ireland (Wilson was in the same England line-up). Mike joined Leeds in Oct 1965 and made his second (and final) England appearance v. France on 12 March 1969. So: Ray was the last Town player to be capped by England. Mike was the last Town player to be called up for his England debut. [This discussion arose from discussion re Coady and Chilwell in the England team]
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 9:38:53 GMT 1
I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England. We all would. International matches have to be played though, to qualify for international competitions. So that every 2 years, we can have parties/BBQ's and watch football in the summer. I'm sure you can understand that? My point being they used to be able to do that without disrupting the domestic games
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 9:40:34 GMT 1
I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England. I'd rather England win a world cup or Euro final than say Town win a game that doesn't affect us getting promoted or relegated Fair enough, I wouldn't.
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Post by digs on Mar 28, 2021 9:48:05 GMT 1
I'd rather England win a world cup or Euro final than say Town win a game that doesn't affect us getting promoted or relegated Fair enough, I wouldn't. So you'd rather Town win in the last game of the season to finish 10th,than England to Beat Scotland,Argentina,Brazil,Spain,Frogs ect in a world cup final? (i know the Scotland bit is a bit far fetched though)
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 10:09:15 GMT 1
So you'd rather Town win in the last game of the season to finish 10th,than England to Beat Scotland,Argentina,Brazil,Spain,Frogs ect in a world cup final? (i know the Scotland bit is a bit far fetched though) Yep, I couldn't give a monkeys about the national team. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched them play a full game.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 10:13:23 GMT 1
Looks like Mings has competition
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Post by 28901 on Mar 28, 2021 11:23:06 GMT 1
I'd rather watch Town this weekend than England. I'd rather Town won than England. I'd rather Town won something than England. We all would. International matches have to be played though, to qualify for international competitions. So that every 2 years, we can have parties/BBQ's and watch football in the summer. I'm sure you can understand that? There used to be 8 teams in the Euros. A great competition. Every match top notch, every team quality. Now there is probably 32, and if there isnt there soon will be. The group games are as meaningless as the qualifiers. When England failed to qualify in 74 they were in a group of three. Poland and Wales. Four games, every one important and an occasion. Four games in two years. All on a Wednesday. All must win. Less international football was more. Thats what I was trying to get across. They've ruined it by a series of utterly meaningless encounters where you know England are going to win, not just win but score a lot. Not only that, all the interesting football has to stop to allow the total borefest to happen. All these mini nations should play pre qualifiers. They do it in the FA cup. Maximum groups of 4 in the qualifiers and back to 8 in the Euro finals, 16 possibly 24 in the World Cup.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 11:27:57 GMT 1
We all would. International matches have to be played though, to qualify for international competitions. So that every 2 years, we can have parties/BBQ's and watch football in the summer. I'm sure you can understand that? There used to be 8 teams in the Euros. A great competition. Every match top notch, every team quality. Now there is probably 32, and if there isnt there soon will be. The group games are as meaningless as the qualifiers. When England failed to qualify in 74 they were in a group of three. Poland and Wales. Four games, every one important and an occasion. Four games in two years. All on a Wednesday. All must win. Less international football was more. Thats what I was trying to get across. They've ruined it by a series of utterly meaningless encounters where you know England are going to win, not just win but score a lot. Not only that, all the interesting football has to stop to allow the total borefest to happen. All these mini nations should play pre qualifiers. They do it in the FA cup. Maximum groups of 4 in the qualifiers and back to 8 in the Euro finals, 16 possibly 24 in the World Cup. Unfortunately FIFA are more interested in money making than quality.
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Post by 28901 on Mar 28, 2021 12:03:47 GMT 1
There used to be 8 teams in the Euros. A great competition. Every match top notch, every team quality. Now there is probably 32, and if there isnt there soon will be. The group games are as meaningless as the qualifiers. When England failed to qualify in 74 they were in a group of three. Poland and Wales. Four games, every one important and an occasion. Four games in two years. All on a Wednesday. All must win. Less international football was more. Thats what I was trying to get across. They've ruined it by a series of utterly meaningless encounters where you know England are going to win, not just win but score a lot. Not only that, all the interesting football has to stop to allow the total borefest to happen. All these mini nations should play pre qualifiers. They do it in the FA cup. Maximum groups of 4 in the qualifiers and back to 8 in the Euro finals, 16 possibly 24 in the World Cup. Unfortunately FIFA are more interested in money making than quality. Exactly
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Post by sabailand on Mar 28, 2021 12:50:26 GMT 1
Unfortunately FIFA are more interested in money making than quality. Exactly Just like UEFA and their 'champions, runners up, and also-rans league'.Regarding the world cup i get that FIFA wants to make it a truly world tournament, but i just cant see the value of including sides some of whome are no better than non-league, the big guns gain nothing and it just heaps humiliation on the minnows.
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Post by benhomly on Mar 28, 2021 13:14:57 GMT 1
So you'd rather Town win in the last game of the season to finish 10th,than England to Beat Scotland,Argentina,Brazil,Spain,Frogs ect in a world cup final? (i know the Scotland bit is a bit far fetched though) Yep, I couldn't give a monkeys about the national team. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched them play a full game. I’m a bit the same and admit to revel a bit in our national teams failures these days and like you can’t remember the last time I saw a full game. But to say you’d rather Town won a meaningless match than see England win a major tournament is a bit bizarre. Unless you’re not English of course
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Post by sabailand on Mar 28, 2021 13:30:00 GMT 1
So many meaningless international friendlies nowadays there has been times England have had a match and i`ve only realised the day before, its overkill and renders international football `just another game` an England international used to be a big event but now its a bit.. meh.I want England to win games because im English and im a football fan, i can understand if some football fans aren't overly bothered about international football but to not care if England win big games is strange behaviour to say the least, in fact in other sports i only have a passing interest in i want the national teams to do well, i`ve never paid to watch a cricket match in my life, or a rugby union match, but im still pleased if they win games, cant imagine any English sports fan not being chuffed when England won the Rugby world cup and England the cricket world cup.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 28, 2021 13:35:33 GMT 1
Yep, I couldn't give a monkeys about the national team. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched them play a full game. I’m a bit the same and admit to revel a bit in our national teams failures these days and like you can’t remember the last time I saw a full game. But to say you’d rather Town won a meaningless match than see England win a major tournament is a bit bizarre. Unless you’re not English of course I'm Yorkshire before England. I passionately want the England cricket and RU teams to win but I just don't care about the football team. Town winning any game makes me happy, the national team winning has no bearing on how I feel. They matter to me about as much as an England RL team.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 28, 2021 13:51:45 GMT 1
I’m a bit the same and admit to revel a bit in our national teams failures these days and like you can’t remember the last time I saw a full game. But to say you’d rather Town won a meaningless match than see England win a major tournament is a bit bizarre. Unless you’re not English of course I'm Yorkshire before England. I passionately want the England cricket and RU teams to win but I just don't care about the football team. As a football fan Porrohman is there a particular reason you dont care for the football team but want the rugby/cricket teams to do well, i wouldnt say that too much money, greed, overrated etc can really be used because that runs through league football too, i want both the rugby team and cricket teams to do well also, although i rarely watch a match of either sport in full.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 28, 2021 14:05:12 GMT 1
We all would. International matches have to be played though, to qualify for international competitions. So that every 2 years, we can have parties/BBQ's and watch football in the summer. I'm sure you can understand that? There used to be 8 teams in the Euros. A great competition. Every match top notch, every team quality. Now there is probably 32, and if there isnt there soon will be. The group games are as meaningless as the qualifiers. When England failed to qualify in 74 they were in a group of three. Poland and Wales. Four games, every one important and an occasion. Four games in two years. All on a Wednesday. All must win. Less international football was more. Thats what I was trying to get across. They've ruined it by a series of utterly meaningless encounters where you know England are going to win, not just win but score a lot. Not only that, all the interesting football has to stop to allow the total borefest to happen. All these mini nations should play pre qualifiers. They do it in the FA cup. Maximum groups of 4 in the qualifiers and back to 8 in the Euro finals, 16 possibly 24 in the World Cup. Absolutely the point. Interrupting our domestic leagues ( including our 4 game unbeaten run!) to play an International against San Marino is frankly ridiculous. It’s no surprise that some are no longer interested in watching International football.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 28, 2021 14:23:25 GMT 1
There used to be 8 teams in the Euros. A great competition. Every match top notch, every team quality. Now there is probably 32, and if there isnt there soon will be. The group games are as meaningless as the qualifiers. When England failed to qualify in 74 they were in a group of three. Poland and Wales. Four games, every one important and an occasion. Four games in two years. All on a Wednesday. All must win. Less international football was more. Thats what I was trying to get across. They've ruined it by a series of utterly meaningless encounters where you know England are going to win, not just win but score a lot. Not only that, all the interesting football has to stop to allow the total borefest to happen. All these mini nations should play pre qualifiers. They do it in the FA cup. Maximum groups of 4 in the qualifiers and back to 8 in the Euro finals, 16 possibly 24 in the World Cup. Absolutely the point. Interrupting our domestic leagues ( including our 4 game unbeaten run!) to play an International against San Marino is frankly ridiculous. It’s no surprise that some are no longer interested in watching International football. Its international football overkill, even i who wants England to win games dont always watch them especially if its a friendly match, at one time all the home nations would have big world cup/Euro qualifiers in midweek but the full league programme on the saturday before still went ahead.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 28, 2021 14:59:52 GMT 1
Absolutely the point. Interrupting our domestic leagues ( including our 4 game unbeaten run!) to play an International against San Marino is frankly ridiculous. It’s no surprise that some are no longer interested in watching International football. Its international football overkill, even i who wants England to win games dont always watch them especially if its a friendly match, at one time all the home nations would have big world cup/Euro qualifiers in midweek but the full league programme on the saturday before still went ahead. Agree totally. In years gone by I’d really look forward to watching a meaningful International game. Those Wednesday night ones were usually great occasions. Now, even mediocre players are given England Caps. - these used to be the pinnacle of a players career. Personally, I restrict myself to watching the World Cup and Euro Finals only now.
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