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Post by wetherbyterrier1972 on Jul 15, 2017 7:30:48 GMT 1
I fall into P3 no complaints from me.
Surprised by some and their overreaction critising the club saying they have not rewarded loyalty. By my reckoning they have give nearly 500k back for the 10 years of supporting the Club. And getting a season card in the prem for 100 quid!
No one has been banned from getting a ticket and think the ballot idea is a cracker. Not sure how it will work but a good one.
I'm sure not all P1 and P2 will take up the tickets so am hoping i get the chance but i know a P1 person and will ask them to get me one if they cant go - simple
Let's stop the moaning!!!
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Post by andyeastleake on Jul 15, 2017 7:32:21 GMT 1
The club ballsed up years ago by not doing anything to monitor away purchases and creating a points system. Too late to do anything about it now so I guess we'll just have to deal with it. This is the main point IMHO, the error hasn't been made now it was made a long time ago. From where they are now TBH I can't see they could have done much else. The people I feel sorry for are those young supporters who travel regularly to away games but (probably) through no fault of their own don't have a 10-year history of a season ticket. For years I've been banging on about the club creating a better method of away ticket allocation on this board (and received some right dogs abuse in the process from the happy clappers who refuse to accept the club are even capable of doing anything wrong). A disappointing lack of foresight has been shown I'm afraid. This could have been anticipated. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 15, 2017 7:34:55 GMT 1
The club ballsed up years ago by not doing anything to monitor away purchases and creating a points system. Too late to do anything about it now so I guess we'll just have to deal with it. This is the main point IMHO, the error hasn't been made now it was made a long time ago. From where they are now TBH I can't see they could have done much else. The people I feel sorry for are those young supporters who travel regularly to away games but (probably) through no fault of their own don't have a 10-year history of a season ticket. For years I've been banging on about the club creating a better method of away ticket allocation on this board (and received some right dogs abuse in the process from the happy clappers who refuse to accept the club are even capable of doing anything wrong). A disappointing lack of foresight has been shown I'm afraid. This could have been anticipated. Hopefully they will make good on the suggestion in the FAQs that they will look into this going forward and in a couple of years time when there is a mad scramble for the San Siro those who go to Swansea, Southampton etc will be front of the queue! |
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Post by Floyds on Jul 15, 2017 7:44:38 GMT 1
Yeah the ticketing system should have been sorted years ago. People camping out over night to get tickets in 2017! Was fine round the back of the open end in 1992 (whenever it was), but surely In the 25 years hence we should have something more robust in place.
I would start a points system (similar to Sunflower c2010) whereby I'd give people who went to Palace 500 points, Swansea 700 and United 200 (for instance). Not ideal as it's not a level playing field to begin with but we have to start somewhere...
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Post by El Mel on Jul 15, 2017 7:48:58 GMT 1
So town introduced a priority scheme last season, to give people top priority, but people don't think that's fair because they didn't want to pay for top priority?
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jul 15, 2017 7:51:40 GMT 1
What a crock of shit. A difficult thing for Town to sort out, but all the same they've managed to make a complete fuck up of it. 25 years a season ticket holder?... barely missed a home game since 1979...seen town play on just about every ground in the country?... fuck that.. if only id spent £20 on a silly away membership last season I could have jumped the queue and stood a chance of going to the big prem away days. reward loyalty?? my arse! theyve pissed all over the loyal fans. Why are some fans more Loyal than I am? Yet I don't feel as if I have been pissed all over. I don't feel as if it is a crock of shit. Are you mad at the silly membership or mad at yourself for not getting the silly membership? |
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 15, 2017 7:55:51 GMT 1
Lack of foresight? Who in their wildest dreams anticipated seeing Town in the Premier League?! That's where we now, unbelievably, find ourselves. The club couldn't really have prepared for this. I'm slightly disappointed for myself, but not complaining and will try to enjoy the ride and get to as many games as possible (the increased TV coverage softens the blow slightly).
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2017 7:59:04 GMT 1
Your ten year loyalty means shit unless you've been paying extra for preferential treatment recently as far as I can tell  If you haven't you're stuck in cat 3 with the Jonny come latelys. I'm thinking my twenty odd years buying a season ticket should rank me higher than someone who recently chips in a few quid a season for free gym membership personally but apparently not. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Since when did the B&W Foundation include free gym membership? Answer......It doesn't. Oh really? I'm sure it did at some point or a heavy discount. My basic point is that this scheme means fans can just pay a small amount for preferential treatment and that will trump a long standing ticket holder. Even worse any fan could have joined as recently at 13th July, i.e.purely to get preferential treatment for pl away games. Difficult thing to get right and the club have had decent crack at it but IMO they shouldn't have mentioned the ten year loyalty thing as this gets you nothing unless you're paying extra. I got the video notification before anything else and assumed from that I'd be being priority. As it happens I'm the same as someone who's been going for three and less than someone who's been paying extra, not because of their loyalty but because it benefits them. The club would have been better not mentioning the ten year loyalty. Also a brilliant gesture for displaced fans but again only if they've paid extra!! Message is loud and clear that it's paying extra that buys you the preferential treatment not loyalty or the fact you've been turfed out of your seat! Seems like they've almost tried to do the right thing but reverted to basing it all on who pays the most! Almost looks like they need a category 2.5 in there for long term and displaced who haven't also been buying preferential treatment. Anyhow just being honest, not negative! Very much looking forward to maybe being able to get tickets! Not long til the new season!!! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by bro600 on Jul 15, 2017 8:01:20 GMT 1
Most of you know me. I missed out and didn't even feel right jumping in for 2 or 3 season tickets after being away so long. I'm gutted but i fought tooth and nail to get the club to where it is now and i knew that it would probably mean i lost my club as i knew it. I'll enjoy it from afar kicking and heading every ball but i don't think there is really " a fair system" Unfortunately. Just don't question Supporters loyalty just because they haven't met the criteria for priority. Loyalty cannot be measured. I will be back when HTFC need me probably fitter and louder... ENJOY....
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Post by andyeastleake on Jul 15, 2017 8:03:04 GMT 1
Lack of foresight? Who in their wildest dreams anticipated seeing Town in the Premier League?! Ticket shortages haven't just started now. They are just more magnified and regular. What about Cheltenham when there had to be a beam-back? Leeds in the first game for years (2007? can't be arsed to check), Burton and Wednesday last year, Chelsea in the cup etc. etc. We could have drawn Liverpool away in the cup any season and this problem would have appeared. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jul 15, 2017 8:03:56 GMT 1
Got no chance in away end.
Through business contacts, so far sorted for home end against Liverpool, Stoke and Watford.
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Post by space hardware on Jul 15, 2017 8:10:43 GMT 1
Anyone who wants to go to an away game next season will probably be able to go to one. It just won't be the one they want (i.e. Liverpool or Man Utd). Oh, thats good then..thanks. Can the admins lock the thread, can Sean remove the youtube video and can the club cancel the scheme...apparently not needed. Are you on drugs? We get 2/3 thousand tickets...we were taking that away every game last season. Has the 20,000 season tix passed you by, the 40,000 at Wembley? Unless you priority 1 you wont get tickets. Do you think we'll take 3,500 to Swansea? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Jul 15, 2017 8:12:49 GMT 1
My basic point is that this scheme means fans can just pay a small amount for preferential treatment and that will trump a long standing ticket holder. TBF It's not just any fan it is someone who is also a long standing ticket holder. Whilst I hope it's clear I think the club should have addressed this issue years ago, if you attend away games regularly why didn't you buy the card last year? I was thankful the card was introduced to avoid missing out last year. What has happened this year is just a bonus. |
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Post by terrierfortythree on Jul 15, 2017 8:19:27 GMT 1
I used to say the best £20 I ever spent was as a 16 year old on a fake ID now I have to admit that £20 spent on TOT tops that.
They have to introduce loyalty points this season.
Then there can be no complaints.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:20:35 GMT 1
Since when did the B&W Foundation include free gym membership? Answer......It doesn't. Oh really? I'm sure it did at some point or a heavy discount. My basic point is that this scheme means fans can just pay a small amount for preferential treatment and that will trump a long standing ticket holder. Even worse any fan could have joined as recently at 13th July, i.e.purely to get preferential treatment for pl away games. Difficult thing to get right and the club have had decent crack at it but IMO they shouldn't have mentioned the ten year loyalty thing as this gets you nothing unless you're paying extra. I got the video notification before anything else and assumed from that I'd be being priority. As it happens I'm the same as someone who's been going for three and less than someone who's been paying extra, not because of their loyalty but because it benefits them. The club would have been better not mentioning the ten year loyalty. Also a brilliant gesture for displaced fans but again only if they've paid extra!! Message is loud and clear that it's paying extra that buys you the preferential treatment not loyalty or the fact you've been turfed out of your seat! Seems like they've almost tried to do the right thing but reverted to basing it all on who pays the most! Almost looks like they need a category 2.5 in there for long term and displaced who haven't also been buying preferential treatment. Anyhow just being honest, not negative! Very much looking forward to maybe being able to get tickets! Not long til the new season!!! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Fair enough. Membership of Canalside is included. |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 15, 2017 8:22:43 GMT 1
The clubs made a massive mistake bringing loyalty into it. A massive mistake.
Surely the idea is to breed loyalty, This one club, everyone pulling together, welcomimg new supporters etc ect and suddenly your not worth shit, Categorised from 1 - 5.... from super supporter to is that some shit on my shoe supporter.
Worst thing is, it wont even matter, ill get tickets off someone whos a priority 1... like everyone did for the playoff, so even priority 2 folks have been shat on as well.
Poorly conceived system that has obviously caused bad feeling and will be circumvented at will.
Every supporter should be treated equally.... fairly and certainly not descriminated against for breeding the next generation of supporters.
Id told the youngest he couldnt have a liverpool goalie top, it had to be town, but seen as though my 38 years of support isnt in the loyal category ill get him a liverpool one with ward on.
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2017 8:22:58 GMT 1
My basic point is that this scheme means fans can just pay a small amount for preferential treatment and that will trump a long standing ticket holder. TBF It's not just any fan it is someone who is also a long standing ticket holder. Whilst I hope it's clear I think the club should have addressed this issue years ago, if you attend away games regularly why didn't you buy the card last year? I was thankful the card was introduced to avoid missing out last year. What has happened this year is just a bonus. Long standing as in three years, so as I said, paying trumps loyalty I'm not overly bothered and like I said the club has had a good crack at it. Re tot it smacks of paying to jump the queue and never interested me, I always avoid such schemes, probably the tight Yorkshire man in me! Tbh I'm just over the moon and still pinching myself that we have this problem, I've been dreaming of these days for many a year! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 15, 2017 8:27:02 GMT 1
Lack of foresight? Who in their wildest dreams anticipated seeing Town in the Premier League?! Ticket shortages haven't just started now. They are just more magnified and regular. What about Cheltenham when there had to be a beam-back? Leeds in the first game for years (2007? can't be arsed to check), Burton and Wednesday last year, Chelsea in the cup etc. etc. We could have drawn Liverpool away in the cup any season and this problem would have appeared. Fair points, but the fact you can think of a few individual instances in the last 10+ years just shows it has never been a major problem until now and the demand due to being Premier League (with their stingy away allocation rules). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:28:50 GMT 1
I just thought of a much better away ticketing system!
Everybody who has never come on here (or any social media) or shouted out at matches to slag of plans the club introduces, or the teams performance, or the amount invested in players, or a new player's performance, or a maturing players performance, get priority 1.
Anyone never done 4 of the above negative attacks on the club P2
Anyone never done 3 of the above negative attacks on the club P3
Anyone never done 2 of the above negative attacks on the club P4
Anyone never done 1 of the above negative attacks on the club P5
10% of tickets go into an open Ballot.
N.B. Any body who has accused another supporter of being a happy clapper is barred from the Ballot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:29:16 GMT 1
I fall into P3 no complaints from me. Surprised by some and their overreaction critising the club saying they have not rewarded loyalty. By my reckoning they have give nearly 500k back for the 10 years of supporting the Club. And getting a season card in the prem for 100 quid! No one has been banned from getting a ticket and think the ballot idea is a cracker. Not sure how it will work but a good one. I'm sure not all P1 and P2 will take up the tickets so am hoping i get the chance but i know a P1 person and will ask them to get me one if they cant go - simple Let's stop the moaning!!! Don't take this the wrong way, as my immediate thought (as a p4), was that I know a few folk who are p1 and p3 who don't regularly travel away, and I'd get them to get me a ticket for a game to increase my chance. However, on reflection, THIS is what will cook the system up if anything....I've decided I won't Game the system like this, and jointly we should all agree to play it fairly, as that will mean that the lower priority people aren't "cheated" out of a chance. I will NOT ask a pal in a higher priority bracket to get a ticket for me if he's not attending. We're Town fans, let's not screw each other just because we're playing West Brom instead of Hull. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 15, 2017 8:30:59 GMT 1
So town introduced a priority scheme last season, to give people top priority, but people don't think that's fair because they didn't want to pay for top priority? This is a fair point. I think that people underestimated the importance going forward of that £20. It was taken off sale and won't be made available again according to the ticket office so there's no chance to rectify it. The frustration stems from people who didn't pay £20 but still went to most away games and home games and have done for years. The club have to start somewhere but this means in theory you could have bought TOT, never been to an away game and still be priority 1 or 2 and I've got 2 or 3 mates who fit into that category. |
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Post by bro600 on Jul 15, 2017 8:31:35 GMT 1
The clubs made a massive mistake bringing loyalty into it. A massive mistake. Surely the idea is to breed loyalty, This one club, everyone pulling together, welcomimg new supporters etc ect and suddenly your not worth shit, Categorised from 1 - 5.... from super supporter to is that some shit on my shoe supporter. Worst thing is, it wont even matter, ill get tickets off someone whos a priority 1... like everyone did for the playoff, so even priority 2 folks have been shat on as well. Poorly conceived system that has obviously caused bad feeling and will be circumvented at will. Every supporter should be treated equally.... fairly and certainly not descriminated against for breeding the next generation of supporters. Id told the youngest he couldnt have a liverpool goalie top, it had to be town, but seen as though my 38 years of support isnt in the loyal category ill get him a liverpool one with ward on. You could get the 20 most intelligent people in the world together to come up with a system that doesn't produce a response like yours and they would fail. Upsetting the least number of supporters is what the club have tried to achieve. A thankless task IMO. I miss out through illness but fully recovered thankfully so my response is a tad tapered but i bet the average supporter who's missed out can understand that it was inevitable that someone was going to be stamping their feet. |
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Post by midge on Jul 15, 2017 8:35:55 GMT 1
Most of you know me. I missed out and didn't even feel right jumping in for 2 or 3 season tickets after being away so long. I'm gutted but i fought tooth and nail to get the club to where it is now and i knew that it would probably mean i lost my club as i knew it. I'll enjoy it from afar kicking and heading every ball but i don't think there is really " a fair system" Unfortunately. Just don't question Supporters loyalty just because they haven't met the criteria for priority. Loyalty cannot be measured. I will be back when HTFC need me probably fitter and louder... ENJOY.... Be good to see you back again soon mate!! |
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Post by rubicon on Jul 15, 2017 8:43:21 GMT 1
It is as it is. Some of us with loyalty cards, or in my case with a Blue and White Foundation membership for 20 months, are still missing out. I think I'm category 4, due to not having a season ticket, just a Take 10 in 2015-16. This was due to work commitments, but I had, a season card last season and of course do this.
In reply to an earlier poster, that sort of implied no one should join the Blue and White foundation purely to get priority, I'd just like to say, that, it wasn't the sole factor in my case. I was happy to give something to the club, with some small payback for, and I admit relatively few compared to others, the away games I go to.
I get nothing else from it living 90 miles away, so the gym and bar are useless to me, as is car parking as I use either the train, or bus from my dads who lives locally.
It may now just be a charity, that I can't afford to continue giving to, won't be the first and won't be the last.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:45:50 GMT 1
So the club have supposedly managed to both piss all over loyal fans and made a huge mistake by bringing loyalty into it. Shows how impossible the situation was for them.
They'll probably be 15k wanting to go to Man Utd away, ask all of them and they'd all come up with a different way of organising it, which coincidentally would mean they would get a ticket.
It being much harder to get tickets for away games is just one of the things that comes with being in the PL. Take the rough with the smooth.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 15, 2017 8:46:20 GMT 1
The clubs made a massive mistake bringing loyalty into it. A massive mistake. Surely the idea is to breed loyalty, This one club, everyone pulling together, welcomimg new supporters etc ect and suddenly your not worth shit, Categorised from 1 - 5.... from super supporter to is that some shit on my shoe supporter. Worst thing is, it wont even matter, ill get tickets off someone whos a priority 1... like everyone did for the playoff, so even priority 2 folks have been shat on as well. Poorly conceived system that has obviously caused bad feeling and will be circumvented at will. Every supporter should be treated equally.... fairly and certainly not descriminated against for breeding the next generation of supporters. Id told the youngest he couldnt have a liverpool goalie top, it had to be town, but seen as though my 38 years of support isnt in the loyal category ill get him a liverpool one with ward on. You could get the 20 most intelligent people in the world together to come up with a system that doesn't produce a response like yours and they would fail. Upsetting the least number of supporters is what the club have tried to achieve. A thankless task IMO. I miss out through illness but fully recovered thankfully so my response is a tad tapered but i bet the average supporter who's missed out can understand that it was inevitable that someone was going to be stamping their feet. Just ballot the lot.... your support is worth more than his is wrong. We are all one thing. Town supporters. It wont matter for me. Ill get one for any game i want by playing the system but that will mean someone with a higher priority missing out to someone with a lower priority... totally ridiculous. The Wednesday allocation sold out sharpish and i know at least 5 supporters who went and werent even season ticket holders... thats out of a bus of 18. |
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Post by tbwah on Jul 15, 2017 8:51:21 GMT 1
Welcome to the Premier League.
I haven't been able to get an away ticket through the club officially for several years.
There is a thriving market on Twitter and FB for ST holders to move on their away tickets (at face value 'to be fair').
They apply so they get he loyalty points even if they don't actually want to attend.
Luckily I have a few mates who can apply for me if needed.
I have been supporting for 50 years and attending for 45 years. I was there when we were shit! Buy I never bothered buying an ST. Didn't need to. So I can't now complain that other YIDS who have shelled out their hard earned up front for decades now get priority over me.
There are always ways and means. I have seen Spurs in the home end at the San Siro and Bernabaeu etc. Where thee's a will. ....
Anyone who wants a ticket for WHU at the Taxpayers will get one. If you get a customer number for Spurs right now, you will get one as I think he game against you will probably go to general sale.
I have customer numbers for half the teams in the Premier League! Got my Brighton one years ago 'just in case' they ever got promoted. Forward thinking.
Good luck.
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Post by hd7terrier on Jul 15, 2017 8:53:32 GMT 1
Super priority fan..... f@(k off. Absolutely bulls&*t. How to lose friends and alienate fans... jolly boys club. Shameful. I have had a season ticket for over 20 years and supported the academy through the B&W foundation for about 5 years, but I don't deserve to be a higher priority to someone who has only got a season ticket this year. Your logic seems strange to me. I have nothing against the new season ticket holders it is great for the club, but I think those that were buying season tickets back in the days of uncertainty when Jacko had 8 players on the books going into preseason and not really knowing if we would have a team to watch should be recognised. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:56:40 GMT 1
You could get the 20 most intelligent people in the world together to come up with a system that doesn't produce a response like yours and they would fail. Upsetting the least number of supporters is what the club have tried to achieve. A thankless task IMO. I miss out through illness but fully recovered thankfully so my response is a tad tapered but i bet the average supporter who's missed out can understand that it was inevitable that someone was going to be stamping their feet. Just ballot the lot.... your support is worth more than his is wrong. We are all one thing. Town supporters. It wont matter for me. Ill get one for any game i want by playing the system but that will mean someone with a higher priority missing out to someone with a lower priority... totally ridiculous. The Wednesday allocation sold out sharpish and i know at least 5 supporters who went and werent even season ticket holders... thats out of a bus of 18. Total Bollocks! "your support is worth more than his is wrong. We are all one thing. Town supporters." Anyone's support, who whines & whingers less than you, is worth more than your support. Look up support in a dictionary if you don't get it. |
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Post by detox on Jul 15, 2017 9:02:35 GMT 1
There's no hope of a future scheme being fairer because those gaining away games points will be the same people in category one and two?
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