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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 1, 2018 21:32:51 GMT 1
I wish I'd had my phone handy when it happened, next time he refs us I'll be ready and waiting and watching him like a hawk during the warm up. Bollocks to that. Next time he refs us I want people hurling coins at him when he arrives at the ground. He’s a biased cheating twat. I can accept people being incompetent. But he’s being paid money to do us over. 1 game is a poor performance, 3 games is a mission. he is not biased towards anyone or anything other than him being centre of attention.. he gives many contentious big decisions against the home team which always makes him the focus of the conversation and debate.. he is a very, very small man who has a whistle.. he had a good game today because he is being talked about, its all that counts.. the fact he could easily have evened it up makes him even more 'powerful' in his arbitory decision led mind.. could not just give a dead, had to run a few yards and over 'act' the signal etc etc... we went to watch him, thats what he thinks..
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Post by space hardware on Dec 1, 2018 21:39:12 GMT 1
Bollocks to that. Next time he refs us I want people hurling coins at him when he arrives at the ground. He’s a biased cheating twat. I can accept people being incompetent. But he’s being paid money to do us over. 1 game is a poor performance, 3 games is a mission. he is not biased towards anyone or anything other than him being centre of attention.. he gives many contentious big decisions against the home team which always makes him the focus of the conversation and debate.. he is a very, very small man who has a whistle.. he had a good game today because he is being talked about, its all that counts.. the fact he could easily have evened it up makes him even more 'powerful' in his arbitory decision led mind.. could not just give a dead, had to run a few yards and over 'act' the signal etc etc... we went to watch him, thats what he thinks.. Personally, I don't think he gives that red card in a bigger game. It's an easy decision for him in a game at our level i.e. a game between two of the lesser sides at the wrong end of the table. He thinks he's above reffing Huddersfield v Brighton so he makes the game all about himself by waving that red card. I actually think he'd have done the same if it were, say, Duffy on Pritchard.
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Dec 1, 2018 21:42:03 GMT 1
Post by ACW on Dec 1, 2018 21:42:03 GMT 1
he is not biased towards anyone or anything other than him being centre of attention.. he gives many contentious big decisions against the home team which always makes him the focus of the conversation and debate.. he is a very, very small man who has a whistle.. he had a good game today because he is being talked about, its all that counts.. the fact he could easily have evened it up makes him even more 'powerful' in his arbitory decision led mind.. could not just give a dead, had to run a few yards and over 'act' the signal etc etc... we went to watch him, thats what he thinks.. Personally, I don't think he gives that red card in a bigger game. It's an easy decision for him in a game at our level i.e. a game between two of the lesser sides at the wrong end of the table. He thinks he's above reffing Huddersfield v Brighton so he makes the game all about himself by waving that red card. I actually think he'd have done the same if it were, say, Duffy on Pritchard. But he didn't when Pritchard was hauled down in the box. Not sure who made the challenge, but it was a blatant penalty and a red card. If he likes waving red cards that much, he had the perfect opportunity to wav e a few more today.
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Dec 1, 2018 21:43:23 GMT 1
Post by towntone63 on Dec 1, 2018 21:43:23 GMT 1
Michael Oliver..Pompous, slimy arrogant bastard. Probably hated by all his neighbours and lives with his mum.
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Dec 1, 2018 21:45:13 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Dec 1, 2018 21:45:13 GMT 1
Personally, I don't think he gives that red card in a bigger game. It's an easy decision for him in a game at our level i.e. a game between two of the lesser sides at the wrong end of the table. He thinks he's above reffing Huddersfield v Brighton so he makes the game all about himself by waving that red card. I actually think he'd have done the same if it were, say, Duffy on Pritchard. But he didn't when Pritchard was hauled down in the box. Not sure who made the challenge, but it was a blatant penalty and a red card. If he likes waving red cards that much, he had the perfect opportunity to a few more today. It's another controversial decision though, one that keeps him in the public eye. Might be reading too much into it and overlooking the fact that he's possibly just an incompetent fuck though 😁😁
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Post by ACW on Dec 1, 2018 21:47:48 GMT 1
But he didn't when Pritchard was hauled down in the box. Not sure who made the challenge, but it was a blatant penalty and a red card. If he likes waving red cards that much, he had the perfect opportunity to a few more today. It's another controversial decision though, one that keeps him in the public eye. Might be reading too much into it and overlooking the fact that he's possibly just an incompetent fuck though 😁😁 That is a distinct possibility.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 21:48:13 GMT 1
Post by wiseman on Dec 1, 2018 21:48:13 GMT 1
In this day and age I'm not surprised that was a red card, however what is infuriating is that all too often these decisions go against us. Three our of four of our red cards in the prem have been given by this dickhead - can't wait to get the cards out of his pocket to make himself the talking point.
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Post by drumriggend on Dec 1, 2018 21:56:46 GMT 1
I wish I'd had my phone handy when it happened, next time he refs us I'll be ready and waiting and watching him like a hawk during the warm up. Bollocks to that. Next time he refs us I want people hurling coins at him when he arrives at the ground. He’s a biased cheating twat. I can accept people being incompetent. But he’s being paid money to do us over. 1 game is a poor performance, 3 games is a mission. Coins?? I'm fooking stockpiling bricks and petrol bombs bro😁
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Post by loumacari on Dec 1, 2018 22:02:52 GMT 1
In this day and age I'm not surprised that was a red card, however what is infuriating is that all too often these decisions go against us. Three our of four of our red cards in the prem have been given by this dickhead - can't wait to get the cards out of his pocket to make himself the talking point. Exactly. I’d take those decisions against us in the normal run of play but when they’re all given by that prick he deserves total hostility. I hope if we get him at home this season he gets abused and bullied from the off. He doesn’t make innocent mistakes, he’s a biased Geordie bastard.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 22:04:34 GMT 1
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 1, 2018 22:04:34 GMT 1
Bollocks to that. Next time he refs us I want people hurling coins at him when he arrives at the ground. He’s a biased cheating twat. I can accept people being incompetent. But he’s being paid money to do us over. 1 game is a poor performance, 3 games is a mission. Coins?? I'm fooking stockpiling bricks and petrol bombs bro😁 Wait for him outside as he arrives and leather him. Throw him off that bridge at the back of the main stand.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 1, 2018 22:05:34 GMT 1
He’s an awful ref
Did anyone notice Bruno always had his arm around him when they were talking - he was visably more friendly/ familiar to Brighton best illustrated by the Brighton sub made on a town throw in front of the south stand. The Brighton player took an age to walk off - they were killing the clock - then Oliver further helped them by insisting smith wait to take the throw so the Brighton sub could literally trot across to the corner flag and take up a position - literally no idea what that was about and never seen that happen in 700ish games
If the Pritchard pen shout had been a Brighton I’m certain he’d have given it
As well as the Town reds Oliver was the ref who sent off the Swansea player after 5 mins last season - for me that was a yellow as well
He never consults an assistant or 4th official before he hands these game changing decisions- he seems very very arrogant
He’s took Uriah Rennies crown as the worst ref I’ve seen
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Post by willo on Dec 1, 2018 22:11:06 GMT 1
He’s an awful ref Did anyone notice Bruno always had his arm around him when they were talking - he was visably more friendly/ familiar to Brighton best illustrated by the Brighton sub made on a town throw in front of the south stand. The Brighton player took an age to walk off then Oliver insisted smith wait to take the throw so the Brighton sub could literally trot across to the corner flag and take up a position - literally no idea what that was about and never seen that happen in 700ish games If the Pritchard pen shout had been a Brighton I’m certain he’d have given it As well as the Town reds Oliver was the ref who sent off the Swansea player after 5 mins last season - for me that was a yellow as well He never consults an assistant or 4th official before he hands these game changing decisions- he seems very very arrogant He’s took Uriah Rennies crown as the worst ref I’ve seen Uriah Rennie! I’d forget all about that useless fucker.
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Post by DuncanShearer on Dec 1, 2018 22:17:20 GMT 1
Oliver was dreadful today and without any question influenced the result, it's as simple as that. I thought Brighton were bloody awful too, that they won 2-1 says everything about the referee as there is no way they beat us playing like that without his help.
Not a red in a million years. Barely a yellow. Definite Penalty and possible red. Definite red for their lad on Durm if even the faintest of parity was in his decision making.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 1, 2018 22:19:21 GMT 1
He’s an awful ref Did anyone notice Bruno always had his arm around him when they were talking - he was visably more friendly/ familiar to Brighton best illustrated by the Brighton sub made on a town throw in front of the south stand. The Brighton player took an age to walk off - they were killing the clock - then Oliver further helped them by insisting smith wait to take the throw so the Brighton sub could literally trot across to the corner flag and take up a position - literally no idea what that was about and never seen that happen in 700ish games If the Pritchard pen shout had been a Brighton I’m certain he’d have given it As well as the Town reds Oliver was the ref who sent off the Swansea player after 5 mins last season - for me that was a yellow as well He never consults an assistant or 4th official before he hands these game changing decisions- he seems very very arrogant He’s took Uriah Rennies crown as the worst ref I’ve seen
George Courtney was the worst ref I've seen.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 22:19:28 GMT 1
Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 1, 2018 22:19:28 GMT 1
He’s an awful ref Did anyone notice Bruno always had his arm around him when they were talking - he was visably more friendly/ familiar to Brighton best illustrated by the Brighton sub made on a town throw in front of the south stand. The Brighton player took an age to walk off - they were killing the clock - then Oliver further helped them by insisting smith wait to take the throw so the Brighton sub could literally trot across to the corner flag and take up a position - literally no idea what that was about and never seen that happen in 700ish games If the Pritchard pen shout had been a Brighton I’m certain he’d have given it As well as the Town reds Oliver was the ref who sent off the Swansea player after 5 mins last season - for me that was a yellow as well He never consults an assistant or 4th official before he hands these game changing decisions- he seems very very arrogant He’s took Uriah Rennies crown as the worst ref I’ve seen exactly he is not biased against us, he just makes decisions which always keep him as the centre of attention, even in the very big games.. he has also learned to away the ones which heighten the contentious nature of his 'performance'.. he is an expert at being one bloke amongst 22 others and keeping the centre of attention.. small bloke with some 'power' a couple of times a week. I still cant work out why we have to know the refs names or how they become 'celebrities' in their own right?? This is nothing against the lads/lasses who keep the non league and kids football going by 'being' the ref rather than the main attraction..
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Dec 1, 2018 22:33:59 GMT 1
Post by wildbillthetownfan on Dec 1, 2018 22:33:59 GMT 1
This clown is by far the worse Ref i have ever seen, he his a disgrace so biased it's untrue.
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Post by Tupper on Dec 1, 2018 22:40:18 GMT 1
He’s an awful ref Did anyone notice Bruno always had his arm around him when they were talking - he was visably more friendly/ familiar to Brighton best illustrated by the Brighton sub made on a town throw in front of the south stand. The Brighton player took an age to walk off - they were killing the clock - then Oliver further helped them by insisting smith wait to take the throw so the Brighton sub could literally trot across to the corner flag and take up a position - literally no idea what that was about and never seen that happen in 700ish games If the Pritchard pen shout had been a Brighton I’m certain he’d have given it As well as the Town reds Oliver was the ref who sent off the Swansea player after 5 mins last season - for me that was a yellow as well He never consults an assistant or 4th official before he hands these game changing decisions- he seems very very arrogant He’s took Uriah Rennies crown as the worst ref I’ve seen
George Courtney was the worst ref I've seen. Was thinking of that twat on the drive home for some reason...
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 22:44:56 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Dec 1, 2018 22:44:56 GMT 1
George Courtney was the worst ref I've seen. Was thinking of that twat on the drive home for some reason... I remember him waving at us after a defeat at Barnsley as we serenaded him with a chorus of "George Courtney, you're a wanker" 😁
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 22:48:51 GMT 1
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Post by markthehorn on Dec 1, 2018 22:48:51 GMT 1
He probably will get a big game now - seems to like it doesn't matter what the high profile refs do they get away with punishment.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:01:12 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Dec 1, 2018 23:01:12 GMT 1
He probably will get a big game now - seems to like it doesn't matter what the high profile refs do they get away with punishment. He was lucky not to get lynched today.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:21:57 GMT 1
Post by lindleyite on Dec 1, 2018 23:21:57 GMT 1
If we got him again in another match are we allowed to say we don't want him?
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Post by impact on Dec 1, 2018 23:23:30 GMT 1
He probably will get a big game now - seems to like it doesn't matter what the high profile refs do they get away with punishment. Especially because it was against little Huddersfield. Bet he'll get the Chelsea v City game next weekend.
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Dec 1, 2018 23:26:08 GMT 1
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Post by drewden on Dec 1, 2018 23:26:08 GMT 1
M.O.T.D. here we go, see if we get any answers.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:30:43 GMT 1
Post by markthehorn on Dec 1, 2018 23:30:43 GMT 1
Why aren't refs allowed to speak and at least explain their decisions?
So ong as it was consutrctive I wouldn't see an issue - might help them in a way.
I mean managers always have to give interviews regardless of the results and ok they usually try and hide behind excuses but at least you can understand what they were thinking/saw.
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Dec 1, 2018 23:34:26 GMT 1
its All about Michaela Oliver.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:37:37 GMT 1
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Post by impact on Dec 1, 2018 23:37:37 GMT 1
Why aren't refs allowed to speak and at least explain their decisions? So ong as it was consutrctive I wouldn't see an issue - might help them in a way. I mean managers always have to give interviews regardless of the results and ok they usually try and hide behind excuses but at least you can understand what they were thinking/saw. They did in the past. I remember a few refs talking on MOTD. Clearly the establishment have stopped them for fear of looking more incompetent than they are. Imagine a ref admitting a mistake, only for the ban not to be rescinded. With rugby and the refs mic'd up, you know exactly what the refs are thinking. Even if you don't agree with their decision, at least you know how they've come to it. It makes it all more transparent.
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Dec 1, 2018 23:38:22 GMT 1
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Post by drewden on Dec 1, 2018 23:38:22 GMT 1
Why aren't refs allowed to speak and at least explain their decisions? So ong as it was consutrctive I wouldn't see an issue - might help them in a way. I mean managers always have to give interviews regardless of the results and ok they usually try and hide behind excuses but at least you can understand what they were thinking/saw. Because the prem is so corrupt and covered up.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:45:51 GMT 1
Post by markthehorn on Dec 1, 2018 23:45:51 GMT 1
Why aren't refs allowed to speak and at least explain their decisions? So ong as it was consutrctive I wouldn't see an issue - might help them in a way. I mean managers always have to give interviews regardless of the results and ok they usually try and hide behind excuses but at least you can understand what they were thinking/saw. Because the prem is so corrupt and covered up. But they never do in other leagues either... Might stop the back chat as well which as talked about the refs being heard in rugby does.
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Oliver
Dec 1, 2018 23:54:39 GMT 1
Post by rothwellterrier on Dec 1, 2018 23:54:39 GMT 1
I need to stop watching that clip. The more I watch it, the angrier I get. If there’s a red glow coming from south leeds this evening, I know it’s coming from your place morley. Look for a similar one coming from north leeds, it’ll be me. As you look towards Morleys house, mine will be the second glow to the left a couple of miles
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Post by dugnet on Dec 1, 2018 23:56:20 GMT 1
The bottom line is that to send Mounie off it must be either, serious foul play or violent conduct. In fairness to Mounie I really don't think it was either. Clumsy maybe, but not reckless, overly high or dangerous. I was prepared to give Oliver the doubt until I has seen it, but now I have it was unbelievably harsh.
Unfortunately I don't see anything other than this being seen as being a correct decision. I don't agree but I don't see it being rescinded, even if we chose to appeal, and Oliver will be vindicated by pundits and assessors alike.
It's a major frustration but we need to move on asap.
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