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Post by Malvern Tom (WAHLS) on Dec 8, 2018 21:01:52 GMT 1
If you look at it from the perspective of other teams fans, they know we are a good team. I know that counts for little, in fact nothing in terms of points, but Bournemouth know we were far better than them..... Burnley saw we were better than them..... Wolves, Cardiff, Palace and Everton did too. Liverpool, spurs, arsenal and West ham fans know they could have easily achieved less points against us than they did. Town are a very good football team..... We all know what's lacking..... Sir Dean will sort it in January. (I hope)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 21:03:03 GMT 1
We have been 'not that far off' for fucking ages. It's a very boring broken record. Not really Morley. Last season we were miles off for a lot of games, Arsenal being one of them. We got torn a new one last year, not this time. We have only been ‘not that far off’ this season only so the record ain’t been playing that long. There is a massive difference in this seasons performances to last seasons. We will only know come May, if it isn’t enough then fair enough but I for one am very happy with our performances of late. Would much rather this scenario than win some, lose some, draw some in another division. I went last season,it was men v boys. Today, we pushed them hard and competed as equals. If fans cannot see the progress, they are blind, stupid or wumming.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 8, 2018 21:04:17 GMT 1
would agree, but Hogg and Smith out with hamstrings makes me worried Hopefully Hogg’s isn’t too bad. Bacunna looked the goods today, nice passing game, does he have the energy and ability to break up play like Hoggy? Time will tell. Thought we really missed Billing today, watching Williams today highlighted how much our midfield trio of Mooy, Billing and Hogg have progressed. Exactly this - good to see Williams back though and in Sabiri's absence, he will likely replace Mooy in the lineup but Billing will be the one likely tasked with covering Mooy's role within the team. As impressive from the bench as Bacuna was, I'm not sure him and Hogg will be the right pairing without Mooy as the third in the centre of midfield. I could possibly see a role for Hogg and Bacuna in a midfield 3 against the top six though.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 8, 2018 21:08:38 GMT 1
Ive been out all day but followed it at pub, sounded to be very unlucky indeed.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 8, 2018 21:10:00 GMT 1
'Out injured' he's suspended.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 8, 2018 21:10:45 GMT 1
We have been 'not that far off' for fucking ages. It's a very boring broken record. I agree it's bit boring now, no one gets points for playing well and losing. I would take a few games where we played bloody awfully but won. I think everyone would take a crap performance with a win. But you know that is very unlikely. Out Achilles heal prevents us winning even when we play well. Unfortunately most of the teams at this level don’t have that problem We need something to change. Either a lucky injury forces a formation change that works or we manage to pick up some superstar in the January window But if we keep up this level of performance I will be happy that at least we are competing week in week out. Something that I never even dreamed of. UTT
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 8, 2018 21:11:06 GMT 1
Bla bla bla, the nearly Men of Huddersfield,
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 8, 2018 21:18:58 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well
We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship.
We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 8, 2018 21:27:52 GMT 1
Bla bla bla, the nearly Men of Huddersfield, Bla bla bla, nearly a man in Morley
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 8, 2018 21:29:07 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky Eeyore.
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Post by loumacari on Dec 8, 2018 21:31:38 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky If we had Callum Wilson or dare I say it, Glen Murray in our team, do you think we would be where we are? If the answer is no then you’ve already answered your own debate about playing well versus competing well.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 8, 2018 21:31:45 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky Eeyore. Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change
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Post by loumacari on Dec 8, 2018 21:33:35 GMT 1
Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change Because the movement up front is rubbish and because when we get chances, we are nowhere near clinical enough. We don’t need a top quality alternative to Mounie, we need a half decent one. That would have been enough to have given us an extra 4 or 5 points so far.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 8, 2018 21:34:55 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky Well if you fancy giving Dean Hoyle around £100 million and a list of a few players who can make us ‘more Premier League’ crack on lad.
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 8, 2018 21:35:24 GMT 1
Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change And that is exactly what everybody thinks when they see you are posting, whatever name you use.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 8, 2018 21:37:18 GMT 1
Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change And that is exactly what everybody thinks when they see you are posting, whatever name you use. Harsh. He may be a miserable twat (😁) but he does make decent, if slightly negative, points.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 8, 2018 21:38:29 GMT 1
Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change Drink spitting moment there... From a fan that following EVERY game comes on here to get his apparent jollies from belittling the team (and its latest performance) that he purports to support. Truly bizarre!!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 8, 2018 21:39:00 GMT 1
Why do you think we've scored the fewest goals in the league? Are we just unlucky? Be interested to here something different from you for a change Because the movement up front is rubbish and because when we get chances, we are nowhere near clinical enough. We don’t need a top quality alternative to Mounie, we need a half decent one. That would have been enough to have given us an extra 4 or 5 points so far. Do you think a world class striker would flourish in a system which sees him isolated up top? The reason we have looked better since the change in formation is that it allows us to flood areas of the pitch to win the ball back while remaining solid. The problem is once we've won the ball back, there is only one man up top. Pritchard spends most of the game out wide playing one twos with Mooy and the right wing back. Looks pretty but doesn't achieve much apart from getting our possession stats up
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Post by drumriggend on Dec 8, 2018 21:39:35 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky I wish somebody would bury your head in the sand
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 8, 2018 21:39:58 GMT 1
we are a good side. we just lack that goalscorer (or two) to take us to the next level. We deserved a point today and were punished for one lapse on concentration.
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Post by est1908 on Dec 8, 2018 21:47:42 GMT 1
Bla bla bla, the nearly Men of Huddersfield, You miserable fooker.....Bring back the days of playing Carlisle and Exeter eh?
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Post by ldotm on Dec 8, 2018 21:57:05 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky I wish somebody would bury your head in the sand I second this
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Post by willo on Dec 8, 2018 22:01:41 GMT 1
Look. We all know what the problem is & have done for weeks now. Even Stevie Wonder could see it! We don’t need to spend £100m as has been mentioned previously but we will need to spend £20-£30m on 2 strikers or the game’s up. But there is another 3 weeks before the window opens & we have to get a minimum of 4 points from the next 2, no excuses. LDP could play until NEXT Christmas & he won’t score. Thanks for last season fella but you are way off being good enough. Mounie might bag a few in time but he’ll never be prolific. Has to be time to try something different, Mbenza up top, he has pace at least. And any new recruits simply have to be in as early in January as possible. Really hope those behind the scenes are working very hard now to do the business. When everyone else is doing their job, would be a real shame to go down because we just can’t score.
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Post by Phil Starbuck - Legend! on Dec 8, 2018 22:06:01 GMT 1
Couldn’t go today (was in London taking the family to Winter Wonderland - which was doubly frustrating seeing so many town fans on the train both ways!) but I’ve enjoyed reading the thread, despite the defeat. I said a few weeks ago I thought we needed 15 points by Christmas to have a chance, given the fixtures. 2 wins and we’ll be on 16. Honestly think if we play like have been doing, keep 11 men on the pitch, we can scrape the odd goal and beat Newcastle and Southampton. Still all to play for!
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Post by est1908 on Dec 8, 2018 22:09:43 GMT 1
Look. We all know what the problem is & have done for weeks now. Even Stevie Wonder could see it! We don’t need to spend £100m as has been mentioned previously but we will need to spend £20-£30m on 2 strikers or the game’s up. But there is another 3 weeks before the window opens & we have to get a minimum of 4 points from the next 2, no excuses. LDP could play until NEXT Christmas & he won’t score. Thanks for last season fella but you are way off being good enough. Mounie might bag a few in time but he’ll never be prolific. Has to be time to try something different, Mbenza up top, he has pace at least. And any new recruits simply have to be in as early in January as possible. Really hope those behind the scenes are working very hard now to do the business. When everyone else is doing their job, would be a real shame to go down because we just can’t score. We are a million miles better than last year, they all must think this......
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 8, 2018 22:12:23 GMT 1
Look. We all know what the problem is & have done for weeks now. Even Stevie Wonder could see it! We don’t need to spend £100m as has been mentioned previously but we will need to spend £20-£30m on 2 strikers or the game’s up. But there is another 3 weeks before the window opens & we have to get a minimum of 4 points from the next 2, no excuses. LDP could play until NEXT Christmas & he won’t score. Thanks for last season fella but you are way off being good enough. Mounie might bag a few in time but he’ll never be prolific. Has to be time to try something different, Mbenza up top, he has pace at least. And any new recruits simply have to be in as early in January as possible. Really hope those behind the scenes are working very hard now to do the business. When everyone else is doing their job, would be a real shame to go down because we just can’t score. Is this system ever going to produce many goals though? That's the point I'm trying to make It contains 5 defenders and two fairly defensive midfielders. Mooy is somewhat attacking but too often ends up back doing the dirty work meaning he can't get far enough up. So that leaves an attacking midfielder and striker to shoulder the blame for our lack of goals As it happens I don't rate the players we have playing in those 2 positions but I'm not sure that bringing in better will suddenly change everything. The system makes us look competitive but I don't think it's one which will ever allow us to score enough unless you have an individual performance like Mooys at Wolves when he stuck away two corkers. You only have to look at Lowe today. 3 times he got in to advanced positions and produces attempts which wouldn't have looked out of place in a 10 year old kick about on the local rec. You can't be relying on players like him to do something in the final third Wagner needs to make a decision on whether he's happy to continue competing and losing by the odd goal or taking a chance and playing a more open formation that maybe sacrifices decent possession but has more attacking players on the pitch and gives us a better chance of scoring a few goals. We might have a few games where we get stuffed (although we have done playing this formation too) but it might see us accumulate more points and stay up
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 8, 2018 22:16:18 GMT 1
All this talk of us playing well. Folk are confusing competing well with playing well We compete well in every game we play now, that wasn't always the case last season. But until we start looking more 'Premier League' once in the oppositions half then we'll be on a collision course with the Championship. We've only scored 10 goals this season. Such a low tally cannot be consistent with 'playing well' unless you want to bury your head in the sand and keep claiming we're unlucky I'm not, we have played some good stuff.
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Post by Batman on Dec 8, 2018 22:17:48 GMT 1
Not really Morley. Last season we were miles off for a lot of games, Arsenal being one of them. We got torn a new one last year, not this time. We have only been ‘not that far off’ this season only so the record ain’t been playing that long. There is a massive difference in this seasons performances to last seasons. We will only know come May, if it isn’t enough then fair enough but I for one am very happy with our performances of late. Would much rather this scenario than win some, lose some, draw some in another division. I went last season,it was men v boys. Today, we pushed them hard and competed as equals. If fans cannot see the progress, they are blind, stupid or wumming. Can’t really compare last season to this given the changes we made for the game last season though.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 8, 2018 22:18:09 GMT 1
Lets look again on before the fa cup 3rd round, then we will know where we are at.
We are still improving other teams going backward.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 8, 2018 22:18:35 GMT 1
Look. We all know what the problem is & have done for weeks now. Even Stevie Wonder could see it! We don’t need to spend £100m as has been mentioned previously but we will need to spend £20-£30m on 2 strikers or the game’s up. But there is another 3 weeks before the window opens & we have to get a minimum of 4 points from the next 2, no excuses. LDP could play until NEXT Christmas & he won’t score. Thanks for last season fella but you are way off being good enough. Mounie might bag a few in time but he’ll never be prolific. Has to be time to try something different, Mbenza up top, he has pace at least. And any new recruits simply have to be in as early in January as possible. Really hope those behind the scenes are working very hard now to do the business. When everyone else is doing their job, would be a real shame to go down because we just can’t score. Is this system ever going to produce many goals though? That's the point I'm trying to make It contains 5 defenders and two fairly defensive midfielders. Mooy is somewhat attacking but too often ends up back doing the dirty work meaning he can't get far enough up. So that leaves an attacking midfielder and striker to shoulder the blame for our lack of goals As it happens I don't rate the players we have playing in those 2 positions but I'm not sure that bringing in better will suddenly change everything. The system makes us look competitive but I don't think it's one which will ever allow us to score enough unless you have an individual performance like Mooys at Wolves when he stuck away two corkers. You only have to look at Lowe today. 3 times he got in to advanced positions and produces attempts which wouldn't have looked out of place in a 10 year old kick about on the local rec. You can't be relying on players like him to do something in the final third Wagner needs to make a decision on whether he's happy to continue competing and losing by the odd goal or taking a chance and playing a more open formation that maybe sacrifices decent possession but has more attacking players on the pitch and gives us a better chance of scoring a few goals. We might have a few games where we get stuffed (although we have done playing this formation too) but it might see us accumulate more points and stay up No mate, everyone wants us to keep playing well, lose and get relegated.
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