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Post by WirralTerrier on Dec 17, 2018 12:25:36 GMT 1
WT - you're just a negative poster, even any hint of praise to the team is followed with a 'but', as per the above statement about B'mouth being on a bad run of form. Call me biased, happy clapper, whatever, where football is concerned I can't shake off the blind optimism, even if we couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo at the moment. Town will come again, hopefully in time to save this season, but if not it will happen, whereas it seems like it will be a cold day in hell the time you actually post something with faith, blind optimism and positivity on here... Says the guy who just followed up what he said with a but and a negative we couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. So anti town that, hate all this negative town talk.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 17, 2018 12:28:15 GMT 1
For me I think we should keep him for the rest of the season.
Let's get a striker in January who is currently bang in form and scoring goals in the Championship or the top league in Germany, Spain, France, Holland, Italy or Belgium. Perhaps a number 10 who is also scoring goals to put pressure on Pritchard.
We are playing well and creating chances. Let's get a couple of players in in January and see how we go. Re-asses at the end of the season.
Should we go down, then yes we will loose some players......However, I recon we'd only lose Zanka, Kongolo, Schindler, Mooy, Billing & Mounie from the current first 11. Which granted is a lot to lose. However, we'd probably get somewhere in the region of £70m for them.
We'd probably keeps hold of Lossl, Flo, Lowe, Stankovic, Hogg, Bacuna, Pritchard. Plus we'd probably keep hold of Kachunga, Sabiri and Sohbi. We'd also have Payne coming back from loan. That's the bones of a pretty decent Championship side. With £70m in the bank we'd be more than fine
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 12:31:11 GMT 1
We are,in my opinion, a Burnley, Blackburn, Wigan. We will fluctuate,as we have done, between divisions.Nothing wrong with that. The money generated recently is huge for a club of our stature. We have done amazingly well to get where we are and yes, we may get relegated this season. It doesn’t stop us being Town fans. If we go back to 12,000 fans at home against Bristol Rovers so be it. I’ll be there. Loved last season and this to an extent but we’ve got to stop being unrealistic, can we not enjoy it for what it is? We we have a chance to stay up this season but we need to recruit well in January. Last Saturdays atmosphere was a reflection on how we, as a group, feel. A bit nervous, expecting a loss, we won’t score etc. It’s just the way it is. Lads, worse things happen in life. My brother in law has just been diagnosed with throat cancer, im sure he’ll be fine but his beloved Nottingham Forest won’t be on his mind for a while. It’s life. Shit happens. I’ve followed Town since 1970 aged 6. Loved every minute. Wouldn’t change a thing. Trust in OUR team and management and above all OUR chairman. To you all.... Merry Christmas and a peaceful and relegation free New Year ....UTFT. Well said and I've been watching since 1970 too,although id say the 12000 is optimistic if we do slide a couple of divisions.
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Post by Champers on Dec 17, 2018 12:43:33 GMT 1
I don't want to see him sacked even if we lose every game 0-6 between now and May. Wagner has given me and many others the best time of our Huddersfield Town supporting lives. Twice. He instilled a togetherness at this club and for me, that means sticking together through both the good times and the bad. He's still well in credit for me, and if we get relegated, I would still rather he be at the helm when it happens. Anyone who wants rid should hang their fucking heads.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 17, 2018 12:59:12 GMT 1
WT - you're just a negative poster, even any hint of praise to the team is followed with a 'but', as per the above statement about B'mouth being on a bad run of form. Call me biased, happy clapper, whatever, where football is concerned I can't shake off the blind optimism, even if we couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo at the moment. Town will come again, hopefully in time to save this season, but if not it will happen, whereas it seems like it will be a cold day in hell the time you actually post something with faith, blind optimism and positivity on here... Says the guy who just followed up what he said with a but and a negative we couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. So anti town that, hate all this negative town talk. Christ, you're like a less tedious Marcus...
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Post by hypotenuse on Dec 17, 2018 12:59:48 GMT 1
Absolutely ridiculous to suggest he gets sacked. Childish, immature nonsense. I very much doubt anyone could get better out of our squad. You’re welcome to call me a happy clapper but I know, like sabre and herefordaway, that what I have seen for the last 3 seasons is better than pretty much all of the previous 45 seasons. I’m fairly sure we will go down this season, just like I was last season. Suggestions regarding changing the system are nonsense - I would pick the same formation and team that DW does. There are one or two individuals who need a kick up the arse (Kongolo, Schindler not performing at anywhere near the level of last season despite receiving little or no criticism on here - just look at the goal we conceded on Saturday and Kongolo’s lack of effort if you want an example - Schindler poss at fault for goal v Arsenal and also Burnley away) and the striker situation is a nightmare but the manager has us playing well in at least 60% of games.
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Post by willo on Dec 17, 2018 14:07:30 GMT 1
Stick or twist? Tricky one. Guess the question is who would and could we expect to replace him with? Big Sam has a (brief) history with us, certainly knows how to get teams out of relegation trouble & is available. We all love & respect DW for everything he’s achieved here but maybe he’s run out of ideas. Or maybe we just need the January window to get some strikers in. Any other previous Town manager on the run we’re on would have been shown the door by now, no doubt. It’s only his past reputation that is keeping him in the job right now. ONLY his past reputation? Only the fact that when he joined us his single remit was to keep us in the Championship? Only the fact that he took an unfashionable club all the way to the promised land? Only the fact that he took a half empty stadium and packed it full. Only the fact that he ended our 45 year wait to see the top players on the country on a regular basis? Wagner is going nowhere and rightly so. Sorry mate, I wasn’t being facetious. Maybe I should have left the word only out. I go back as far as Buxton and DW has being without doubt the best manager I’ve ever known at the club. I’m on the precipice with this right now though. But if we stick, I do think he can turn this round. However if we are sticking, January is pivotal for him. If we do nothing, the end of January will be too late to change.
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Post by mrg on Dec 17, 2018 14:19:14 GMT 1
He's a good manager, but the system is broken. That's what needs to change, not the manager. Get rid of five at the back and defensive midfielders at home; pick attacking players - not for their defensive capabilities - and get out and attack teams. I'm certain that we would have beaten Newcastle, Cardiff and Brighton if we'd adopted those tactics. Five at the back and filling the team with defenders is taking us down. This is my perspective entirely. He seems unable to make a decision on a back 4 which doesn't involve 1 of the top 3 central defenders. It's schindy, kongolo or zanka at centre back and durm and Flo left and right, period, no more pissing around. Then decide what we actually want to do in front if that. Is it 2 banks of 3 or is it 4321/4231. We look out of our depth because the lads are being asked to do things they are not used to and making marginal errors. Then we've got the issues of the new lads and not scoring enough. Changes need to be made to adapt next week. I'm currently resigned to a weak campaign in which we are relegated. No big deal, but we can change it if we change it. I know it's obvious but it is taking some time to sink in I feel.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 17, 2018 15:13:36 GMT 1
Every season three teams have to go down. Its a sad fact of PL life. Makes it tough to take though if you are one of the three. I think right now we are suffering from the appalling summer recruitment. All that money spent on Mbenza, Diahkby and Sohbi. Three players who should be providing us with the attacking goal scoring flair that was clearly missing last season. Our midfield tends to hang deep because of the quality of the opposition which leaves only Pritchard to link up with the lone striker. I know, Durm, Flo and Lowe are supposed to do this, but although they work hard, they don't that have the quality. Its massively frustrating, Flo makes himself available a lot, but his final ball in his just not good enough. When reverting to a back four and putting Mbenza in the team, not only does he not have the quality, he doesn't even look like a footballer. You wonder know if Diakhby and VLP are stating to disrupt the harmony in the dressing room. I guess we will see what happens in two weeks time. UTT. Wagner in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 15:21:25 GMT 1
He's a good manager, but the system is broken. That's what needs to change, not the manager. Get rid of five at the back and defensive midfielders at home; pick attacking players - not for their defensive capabilities - and get out and attack teams. I'm certain that we would have beaten Newcastle, Cardiff and Brighton if we'd adopted those tactics. Five at the back and filling the team with defenders is taking us down. [br You stick to saying he's a good manager yet say all these tactical changes that should be made. He's in charge and is responsible for these tactical errors.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 21:36:18 GMT 1
Bring in two strikers for him in January. And watch the great escape II Why give him 2 strikers? He has rarely if ever started a game with 2 strikers since being at town. Add to that he's had plenty of time to pick a decent winger but we've made a mess if that. Now he's lost all confidence in being brave and making the opponent worry about us. He has unfortunately turned in to another dull manager that is way too worried about the opposition, worried about losing and therefore takes the safe option over and over again. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Wagner does the exact same thing week after week, nothing changes, it rarely works but he does the exact same thing again the next game and expects something different to happen. I just feel sad more than anything that he has become that way and we have become that negative, dull, unattractive team to watch. One striker to start and one on the bench - mounie and depoitre need not be in the match day squad by default. Most other premier league teams have 3,4 or 5 strikers in their squads. If DW chopped and changed the team every week it wouldnt help, the squad is decent but not quite good enough at this level. We should bring in one or two significantly better players and where better to start than with the goalscoring area. Finances are a limiting factor but somehow we need proven goalscorer(s).
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 18, 2018 8:43:23 GMT 1
If we were genuinely underachieving then I'd ditch Wagner, but we're the 2nd most poorly funded club in the division & we're 2nd bottom in the table. In terms of funding, there's a big gap between us & 3rd poorest, let alone 4th, yet one win could take us out of the relegation zone.
Are we beginning to take massive overachievement for granted?
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