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Post by townatheart on Jan 16, 2019 8:52:40 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. American sports franchises just build another one Or move club to a different city 🤔
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 16, 2019 8:53:29 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. American sports franchises just build another one Hey y'all... Bruce Bigun here... Thinking of buying yer soccer club. Could we get a stadium on that itty bitty little bit of land that has a Home Depot store on it.?
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Post by billy143 on Jan 16, 2019 8:59:40 GMT 1
Club subject to take over from American business man who owns sports teams in the USA share bid currently being approved by large LONDON Solicitors. DH owns HTFC, there are no shares to buy.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 16, 2019 9:00:28 GMT 1
Blimey...might get some decent hot dogs then? Not sure that would make up for the season card price hike. Can you imagine the reaction from some quarters if they were increased to even around the lower end of the norm.
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Post by Jack on Jan 16, 2019 9:02:19 GMT 1
They want their own manager too. Welcome Bob Bradley.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 16, 2019 9:18:29 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. I would argue that in some cases Stadium ownership can be a liability/burden.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 16, 2019 9:31:06 GMT 1
Club subject to take over from American business man who owns sports teams in the USA share bid currently being approved by large LONDON Solicitors. DH owns HTFC, there are no shares to buy. Think you’re a bit confused here, DH owning HTFC means he owns all HTFC’s shares and can sell them to someone else if he wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 9:40:43 GMT 1
Not sure that would make up for the season card price hike. Can you imagine the reaction from some quarters if they were increased to even around the lower end of the norm. Yes, hardly anyone would buy one.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 16, 2019 9:44:41 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. I'm sure Dean stated (not so long ago) that talks were ongoing for Town to 'run' the stadium. Then again I could be mistaken.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 16, 2019 9:55:05 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. I'm sure Dean stated (not so long ago) that talks were ongoing for Town to 'run' the stadium. Then again I could be mistaken. That was definitely mentioned. Might not have got that far though with everything else going on.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 16, 2019 11:56:39 GMT 1
American sports franchises just build another one Hey y'all... Bruce Bigun here... Thinking of buying yer soccer club. Could we get a stadium on that itty bitty little bit of land that has a Home Depot store on it.? Next season, y'all come back now. Be blessed.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 16, 2019 11:58:11 GMT 1
DH owns HTFC, there are no shares to buy. Think you’re a bit confused here, DH owning HTFC means he owns all HTFC’s shares and can sell them to someone else if he wants. Dean Hoyle does not own Town, he is just the guardian for the next generation
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Post by iangreaves on Jan 16, 2019 12:26:32 GMT 1
Think you’re a bit confused here, DH owning HTFC means he owns all HTFC’s shares and can sell them to someone else if he wants. Dean Hoyle does not own Town, he is just the guardian for the next generation Not sure American investors understand that concept. The idea of a foreign takeover makes me very, very nervous.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 16, 2019 12:29:50 GMT 1
If there is any truth in any form of take over I’d like to think Mr Hoyle gives his approval and that is good enough for me. I’d like us to be a mid table secure prem team challenging for europa spots rather than a petrochemical billionaires lovetoy. I realise the figures involved just to get us to compete at this level but I’d love for us to keep that realism about the club to fans.
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Post by billy143 on Jan 16, 2019 12:34:53 GMT 1
DH owns HTFC, there are no shares to buy. Think you’re a bit confused here, DH owning HTFC means he owns all HTFC’s shares and can sell them to someone else if he wants. I was wrong in the first instance saying DH owns the club, he is the majority shareholder. I should have said you cannot buy shares on the stock exchange, the club is a private limited company with share capital. The share capital in a private limited company is the amount of money invested by its owners in exchange for shares of ownership. Company directors are typically shareholders in their own companies.
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Post by townrwe on Jan 16, 2019 12:48:12 GMT 1
It is the first time in Deanos tenure that potentially another owner could take the club further. Not saying i wish that to be the case, but the club will probably never be worth more than it is today, so a takeover at this point would probably be best for everyone based on a purely financial decision, Deano is a fan, so ££££ dont always hold the same sway, but like others say, if he is selling the club, it will be only to someone he believes can take us to the next level.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jan 16, 2019 12:49:08 GMT 1
Deano has always stated at Q&A if someone comes along to buy the club who can takes us to the next level and has our best interest at heart he will not stand in the way. So if deano does sell it will be for the good of the club.
P.s I think it’s all a load of tosh anyway
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 16, 2019 12:51:58 GMT 1
Think you’re a bit confused here, DH owning HTFC means he owns all HTFC’s shares and can sell them to someone else if he wants. I was wrong in the first instance saying DH owns the club, he is the majority shareholder. I should have said you cannot buy shares on the stock exchange, the club is a private limited company with share capital. The share capital in a private limited company is the amount of money invested by its owners in exchange for shares of ownership. Company directors are typically shareholders in their own companies. Yep HTAFC isn't publicly listed on the stock exchange, but if DH decides to sell HTAFC what ultimately happens is that money is exchanged for shares. As far as I'm aware he is the sole shareholder so also the majority by default. You can't have a Limited company without shareholders (and therefore shares).
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Post by mids on Jan 16, 2019 12:53:53 GMT 1
A person's circumstances change, and their priorties may change as a consequence. If Dean is selling the club then it may be the best for him and his family.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 16, 2019 13:26:49 GMT 1
A person's circumstances change, and their priorties may change as a consequence. If Dean is selling the club then it may be the best for him and his family. Absolutely and he hardly owes us anything does he? If he does sell what a legacy he will leave behind, not a bad time to go really either. His personal situation is paramount and Town must come 2nd to that.
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Post by ldotm on Jan 16, 2019 13:43:26 GMT 1
They want their own manager too. Welcome Bob Bradley. Brad Bobley.. MEGNUTS!! so sweet!
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Post by billy143 on Jan 16, 2019 14:18:03 GMT 1
I was wrong in the first instance saying DH owns the club, he is the majority shareholder. I should have said you cannot buy shares on the stock exchange, the club is a private limited company with share capital. The share capital in a private limited company is the amount of money invested by its owners in exchange for shares of ownership. Company directors are typically shareholders in their own companies. Yep HTAFC isn't publicly listed on the stock exchange, but if DH decides to sell HTAFC what ultimately happens is that money is exchanged for shares. As far as I'm aware he is the sole shareholder so also the majority by default. You can't have a Limited company without shareholders (and therefore shares). Correct, every company must have at least 1 share. I think Ken Davy still has a shareholding.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 16, 2019 14:42:51 GMT 1
[/quote]Correct, every company must have at least 1 share. I think Ken Davy still has a shareholding. [/quote]
I would doubt that Ken Davy has as much as fixture card let alone a share.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 16, 2019 14:45:39 GMT 1
A person's circumstances change, and their priorties may change as a consequence. If Dean is selling the club then it may be the best for him and his family. no real town fan would blame him at all. He took a hell of a risk initially when he became owner. If he feels it is the right time for whatever reason then he should leave with the best wishes of every single town fan.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 16, 2019 15:18:57 GMT 1
Dean owes us nothing. Our town, club & us all owe Dean a heck of a lot.
Hopefully if when he sells he can have one last kick and obligate the new owners to remove Davy as lifetime president.
Equally they should ensure that he given a suitable recognition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 15:37:43 GMT 1
I don't know the state of DH's health, but I understand he has been quite ill recently. I would have thought that owning the club during this very difficult season (and it's likely to get a whole lot worse) must be very stressful, millions in the bank or no. Reverting to being just a "conventional fan" again, and letting someone else take the strain, might now be a very tempting prospect. And he could probably walk away with all his investment in the club recovered, and a nice profit on top.
Health/stress issues seem to have done for DW's involvement with the club. DH might soon follow his example.....
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Post by townatheart on Jan 16, 2019 16:02:11 GMT 1
Dean owes us nothing. Our town, club & us all owe Dean a heck of a lot. Hopefully if when he sells he can have one last kick and obligate the new owners to remove Davy as lifetime president. Equally they should ensure that he given a suitable recognition. Oh, and if it is to be Americans, please do not forget the corn dogs
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Post by townrwe on Jan 16, 2019 16:05:56 GMT 1
Dean owes us nothing. Our town, club & us all owe Dean a heck of a lot. Hopefully if when he sells he can have one last kick and obligate the new owners to remove Davy as lifetime president. Equally they should ensure that he given a suitable recognition. Oh, and if it is to be Americans, please do not forget the corn dogs and a few hundred million for players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 16:32:33 GMT 1
Yep HTAFC isn't publicly listed on the stock exchange, but if DH decides to sell HTAFC what ultimately happens is that money is exchanged for shares. As far as I'm aware he is the sole shareholder so also the majority by default. You can't have a Limited company without shareholders (and therefore shares). Correct, every company must have at least 1 share. I think Ken Davy still has a shareholding. Dean Hoyle has a 100% shareholding in Town. £7.125m capital of 10p and 5p shares.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 16:33:43 GMT 1
You do have to wonder why anyone would want to buy a football club that doesn't own it's stadium. Thats normal in the US. In a lot of cases the city owns the stadium
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