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Post by always a terrier on Jan 5, 2019 20:52:50 GMT 1
Just seems everything is wrong at the moment. Management devoid of ideas. Players not giving a crap. Probably know huge pay decrease is looming large. Just wondering if we are going to see a massive shake up at Htafc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 20:58:14 GMT 1
Bloody hope so. Think its time to move on in a different direction.
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Post by townrwe on Jan 5, 2019 21:03:14 GMT 1
Where everything has been run well for 2 1/2 years this year it's all Changed and we look rudderless.
Puncheon signing sums it up. We have a recruitment guy Rebbe In place Since June and we sign Andy Hughes' pal.
Summer recruitment was diabolical.
No limits has disappeared.
We look like fucking Newcastle. Apart for Ashley has made cash in the transfer market and got a manager that can get results without the backing.
Team spirit gone and replaced by a bunch of misfits that look like they have never played together.
I think the this season could be the cliff edge. Has deano got the energy to start again?
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Post by 4 pts on Jan 5, 2019 21:07:23 GMT 1
OPE ?
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Post by Town Duppy on Jan 5, 2019 21:09:11 GMT 1
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 21:10:19 GMT 1
Bloody hope not
Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off
As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for
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Post by benhomly on Jan 5, 2019 21:11:52 GMT 1
Bloody hope so. Think its time to move on in a different direction. We are. Sadly |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 5, 2019 21:13:35 GMT 1
Andy Hughes is a part of the problem
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 5, 2019 21:16:06 GMT 1
Ope not
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 21:16:21 GMT 1
Andy Hughes is a part of the problem Possession football 'small working triangles'... has us playing backwards all the time. |
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Post by waterlooboy on Jan 5, 2019 21:19:12 GMT 1
Worrying part is the lack of ridicule from other fans, thought there may be a thread taking the piss but it is silent
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 5, 2019 21:19:52 GMT 1
Maybe some of those who seem to think they know how to run a football club should. I just don't think their probable sub £25k yearly salary will suffice.
Seriously, I had a nasty feeling the promotion could actually be the thing that stopped my HTAFC experience being enjoyable.
I really don't enjoy the football and can't stand the thought I have a common interest with the likes of Enoch and the bottom feeders I was stood by at Stoke last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 21:31:22 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for well said on both counts. |
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 21:32:53 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for The wheels came off in summer, a month ago the car caught fire from all the sparks caused from not stopping to sort out the issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 21:32:54 GMT 1
Worrying part is the lack of ridicule from other fans, thought there may be a thread taking the piss but it is silent The town twitter account is getting murdered |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 5, 2019 21:36:43 GMT 1
Dean knows we cannot compete at this level with the finances he is able to put in. The Premier League now is just one huge ''my club is better than yours' rich owners game. Dean cannot compete. If there is a takeover in the offing (I'm not sure there is but i'll bite) then whoever comes in would have to be absolutely bloody minted beyond belief to compete with the top six who can piss money away like it's nothing.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 21:40:04 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for The wheels came off in summer, a month ago the car caught fire from all the sparks caused from not stopping to sort out the issue. Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 21:44:20 GMT 1
Maybe some of those who seem to think they know how to run a football club should. I just don't think their probable sub £25k yearly salary will suffice. Seriously, I had a nasty feeling the promotion could actually be the thing that stopped my HTAFC experience being enjoyable. I really don't enjoy the football and can't stand the thought I have a common interest with the likes of Enoch and the bottom feeders I was stood by at Stoke last year. welcome to the web that is the spider to the fly |
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 21:55:14 GMT 1
The wheels came off in summer, a month ago the car caught fire from all the sparks caused from not stopping to sort out the issue. Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Were we playing well though? We started off the season with two tough games which was then followed by Cardiff at home where we were awful and it was the first time we started to realise Wagner had gone ultra defensive with the shite new system. We then got knocked out of the cup quite easily by a struggling Stoke. A decent draw against Everton away where we did actually do quite well was then followed by several shocking defensive performances although we did put up a good fight against Liverpool as you say. November was decent although I think most will agree we still sucked at scoring and creating or taking chances. After that it was back to the crap we were used to and somehow getting progressively worse and you could write the script to every game before it started - start off well, have a lot of possession but do nothing with it, fail to score from the few attacks we manage, then eventually concede and lose without putting up a fight. Throw in a few baffling substitutions, team selections, and Wagner failing to respond to tactical changes in-game for good measure. Then today we have another absolutely terrible performance which leads to us getting kicked out of the FA Cup. I think we were all expecting relegation and were (and still are) fine with it, but not in this manner. Shocking summer transfers aside it's quite obvious Wagner has lost his way with the "no limits terrier spirit" now a distant memory. The game against Bristol was a good chance to show what we might expect next season in the Championship and its done little to raise spirits. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jan 5, 2019 21:55:39 GMT 1
The wheels came off in summer, a month ago the car caught fire from all the sparks caused from not stopping to sort out the issue. Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results How long does it extend? |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 22:00:01 GMT 1
Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Were we playing well though? We started off the season with two tough games which was then followed by Cardiff at home where we were awful and it was the first time we started to realise Wagner had gone ultra defensive with the shite new system. We then got knocked out of the cup quite easily by a struggling Stoke. A decent draw against Everton away where we did actually do quite well was then followed by several shocking defensive performances although we did put up a good fight against Liverpool as you say. November was decent although I think most will agree we still sucked at scoring and creating or taking chances. After that it was back to the crap we were used to and somehow getting progressively worse and you could write the script to every game before it started - start off well, have a lot of possession but do nothing with it, fail to score from the few attacks we manage, then eventually concede and lose without putting up a fight. Throw in a few baffling substitutions, team selections, and Wagner failing to respond to tactical changes in-game for good measure. Then today we have another absolutely terrible performance which leads to us getting kicked out of the FA Cup. I think we were all expecting relegation and were (and still are) fine with it, but not in this manner. Shocking summer transfers aside it's quite obvious Wagner has lost his way with the "no limits terrier spirit" now a distant memory. The game against Bristol was a good chance to show what we might expect next season in the Championship and its done little to raise spirits. I agree and I want the Terrier limits gengenpressing back I don’t agree we were that bad in Aug, Sep and Oct though ... we just needed better finishing, getting the right side of some ref decisions and shots going in rather than hit the post. Fine margins |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 22:03:33 GMT 1
Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results How long does it extend? Not sure to be honest but I’m not calling for him to leave right now I agree with others he looks frazzled but equally players need to take responsibility for doing their job better - Bristol shouldn’t have scored that chance and we had 4 good chances missed by 4 different players |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jan 5, 2019 23:02:15 GMT 1
Not sure to be honest but I’m not calling for him to leave right now I agree with others he looks frazzled but equally players need to take responsibility for doing their job better - Bristol shouldn’t have scored that chance and we had 4 good chances missed by 4 different players Today was the final straw for me. I can handle us losing away to a championship team in the fa cup. I have dealt with the 12 months of awful results (the worst of any team in the country) and I have always had some hope that a bit of luck and a win or two could inspire some confidence and turn us around. Any hope I had has now gone. The performances are on a downward spiral and he has no idea how to turn it around. As much as I love DW I have no confidence that he can get us playing any better and do not know where the next goal or point will come from. I want him to turn it around. I want to be loyal to him but after 9 defeats in a row, two wins and 13 goals from 21 games, going out of both cups at the first time of asking against lesser teams and the slow deterioration or our performances there does not seem to be any other option. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 5, 2019 23:05:29 GMT 1
Is Wagner a better manager than Owen Coyle or Paul Lambert?
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Post by shawsie on Jan 5, 2019 23:06:50 GMT 1
Is Wagner a better manager than Owen Coyle or Paul Lambert? Yes |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 5, 2019 23:09:52 GMT 1
Is Wagner a better manager than Owen Coyle or Paul Lambert? Yes What makes you say that? |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 5, 2019 23:10:03 GMT 1
Is Wagner a better manager than Owen Coyle or Paul Lambert? Define better. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 23:12:31 GMT 1
Results v West Ham onwards...  🤷♂️🤣 ah well... |
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Post by shawsie on Jan 5, 2019 23:23:08 GMT 1
Lambert was poor at blackburn, took stoke down and is bottom now with Ipswich and gone out of the cup today like us. Coyly done nothing of note for years - was ok with burnley but been grim since and out of touch. Not had a 30% win record since 2010. . |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 23:23:12 GMT 1
Is Wagner a better manager than Owen Coyle or Paul Lambert? Define better. Time will tell Let’s see what level Wagner is managing in a couple of seasons and what level town are playing at |
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