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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 10, 2019 13:56:42 GMT 1
The vibe among the American crowd was that he could challenge Tommy Smith, Flo Hadergjonaj and Demeaco Duhaney for a spot in Jan Siewert's Championship side. Yeah, ok 🤣🤣🤣 Very Knowledgeable these American crowds!
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 10, 2019 14:20:46 GMT 1
You can just imagine to buzz of excitement in the crowd in Minnesota as word gets round that there might be a scout from Huddersfield there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 14:43:43 GMT 1
I'd take £20m for a 29 yr old, not that anyone would bid that but £10m would be a very good fee even though we'd be losing a top man and player.
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Post by townatheart on Jun 10, 2019 14:48:38 GMT 1
You can just imagine to buzz of excitement in the crowd in Minnesota as word gets round that there might be a scout from Huddersfield there. Things have really changed if folks in Minnesota even have a clue who Huddersfield is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 15:08:55 GMT 1
Why would there be “work permit difficulties” for a footballer born in France who played all his development and senior football in Europe up until earlier this year?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 15:16:08 GMT 1
Why would there be “work permit difficulties” for a footballer born in France who played all his development and senior football in Europe up until earlier this year? The Examiner is a bag of shite. If they said it was raining, I would look out the window. Can imagine all them Americans buzzing we were there, when probably most would never have heard of us before our brief stint in the Premier League. Painted like we are Liverpool or Man City. Hardly a bloody head turner and if was that bloke, I would stop in the MLS.
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Post by townohiofan on Jun 10, 2019 15:38:13 GMT 1
The vibe among the American crowd was that he could challenge Tommy Smith, Flo Hadergjonaj and Demeaco Duhaney for a spot in Jan Siewert's Championship side. Yeah, ok 🤣🤣🤣 As someone who attends many MLS matches, I've come across two fans this year who would even know the names of those fullbacks. Both were transplants from Yorkshire. Also, I'd highly advise against looking to MLS for defending talent. It's where the talent gap between the two leagues is most pronounced. Opara is one of the handful that could play at this level. Don't really need to see him in person to see that though. Him and Aaron Long are obviously quality CBs. Takes 5 mins to see that they well outclass their counterparts in MLS. That said I'd be shocked if either is on low wages.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 10, 2019 15:43:10 GMT 1
Why would there be “work permit difficulties” for a footballer born in France who played all his development and senior football in Europe up until earlier this year? The Examiner is a bag of shite. If they said it was raining, I would look out the window. Can imagine all them Americans buzzing we were there, when probably most would never have heard of us before our brief stint in the Premier League. Painted like we are Liverpool or Man City. Hardly a bloody head turner and if was that bloke, I would stop in the MLS. MLS or Championship? Apart from the handful of players that go there for a money spinning retirement gift most earn far less than the average Championship earner. The standard is shocking in comparison aswell.
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Post by shawsie on Jun 10, 2019 17:15:55 GMT 1
Fair points, but even with greater financial backing, Powell would never have had us playing like Wagner did. He wouldn;t have been as successful. But never really got the boredom tag Powell gets. Certainly not compared to wagner whos side seemed much less gung-ho and more cautious to me. In Powells only (almost) full season here in 14/15 we actually scored more than Wagners side did in getting promotion, even though they were obviously no where near as good. Think the boring perception is mainly down to results than a lack of attacking, chance-creating football. Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 10, 2019 17:32:34 GMT 1
He wouldn;t have been as successful. But never really got the boredom tag Powell gets. Certainly not compared to wagner whos side seemed much less gung-ho and more cautious to me. In Powells only (almost) full season here in 14/15 we actually scored more than Wagners side did in getting promotion, even though they were obviously no where near as good. Think the boring perception is mainly down to results than a lack of attacking, chance-creating football. Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since. Cant disagree with any of that. But thats isn;t quite the same as this thing about the football being boring, especially when compared to wagners. Losing is boring. And the results under Powell were pretty uninspiring. Enough to keep us up, but we were unlikely to move on from there. Think people found that position 'stale' and boring. But was the actual football? In terms of goals and goal chances I think we saw more under powell than under wagner, even in the promotion season. We also saw more at the other end, which was an issue! But under wagner we saw a way forward. A path to achieving something.. and that made it exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 18:08:52 GMT 1
He wouldn;t have been as successful. But never really got the boredom tag Powell gets. Certainly not compared to wagner whos side seemed much less gung-ho and more cautious to me. In Powells only (almost) full season here in 14/15 we actually scored more than Wagners side did in getting promotion, even though they were obviously no where near as good. Think the boring perception is mainly down to results than a lack of attacking, chance-creating football. Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since. Slightly in Powell's defence. Forever mentioning the gulf in money is maybe slightly exaggerating it? He did mention it a few times following the chairman's lead, "we cannot compete financially we have to do it another way" as I recall... Wagner brought his family over eventually but not until his daughter had her education sorted. Precisely the reason Powell gave for not bringing his family north at that time, he wasn't here long enough for that to happen as it turned out. Wagner was like a breath of fresh air, can't think of a manager over here that would have done what he did.
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Post by Maynardblue on Jun 10, 2019 18:22:11 GMT 1
He wouldn;t have been as successful. But never really got the boredom tag Powell gets. Certainly not compared to wagner whos side seemed much less gung-ho and more cautious to me. In Powells only (almost) full season here in 14/15 we actually scored more than Wagners side did in getting promotion, even though they were obviously no where near as good. Think the boring perception is mainly down to results than a lack of attacking, chance-creating football. Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since. Under Powell, at its worst, we were only having 2 training sessions a week, and they were half sessions and was mainly due to Powell spending most of his time in London. This suited some of the players sadly so they didn't complain.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jun 10, 2019 18:47:35 GMT 1
Fair points, but even with greater financial backing, Powell would never have had us playing like Wagner did. He wouldn;t have been as successful. But never really got the boredom tag Powell gets. Certainly not compared to wagner whos side seemed much less gung-ho and more cautious to me. In Powells only (almost) full season here in 14/15 we actually scored more than Wagners side did in getting promotion, even though they were obviously no where near as good. Think the boring perception is mainly down to results than a lack of attacking, chance-creating football. Totally agree - I’ve never understood the boring tag. I share a season ticket and went to 11 home games that season, loads of which were really good. I can only think of 1 or 2 games that were dull -Cardiff being the worst. Charlton, Forest, Brentford, Bolton, Watford, Derby, Blackburn, Wolves were all decent games.
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Post by shawsie on Jun 10, 2019 19:12:34 GMT 1
Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since. Cant disagree with any of that. But thats isn;t quite the same as this thing about the football being boring, especially when compared to wagners. Losing is boring. And the results under Powell were pretty uninspiring. Enough to keep us up, but we were unlikely to move on from there. Think people found that position 'stale' and boring. But was the actual football? In terms of goals and goal chances I think we saw more under powell than under wagner, even in the promotion season. We also saw more at the other end, which was an issue! But under wagner we saw a way forward. A path to achieving something.. and that made it exciting. It was boring under Powell imo. There was no plan, no strategy, nothing innovative. In the main we beat those we were expected to, lost to the bigger boys back then and there was nothing to look forward to.........no cup runs, surprises nothing. Wagner was undoubtedly lucky....got the club at the right time, players who bought into no limits and we all knew that the players had to work for their money. He showed innovation, drive, determination which Powell, robins could only dream of for me. We won games we didn't think we would, lost similarly but there was a sense that Wagner had a different mindset.....he wasn't prepared to settle for mediocrity and we went toe to toe with everyone in the championship. Not in style terms but we developed styles to cope with on paper better sides like Brighton, Newcastle, sheff wed,derby,Villa. The sad thing for Wagner is he probably should have gone after keeping us up.......his magnificent legacy here is clearly tarnished for some by last summer's transfers and style changes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 19:33:59 GMT 1
Think Powell was deeply uninspiring full stop. Forever mentioned the gulf in money and we couldn't compete.... Said he would move up north to embrace the challenge....didn't. Felt like we were listing as a club....happy to finish 16th every year. Wagner came in and ripped up the accepted norm....and from the get go there was a style, a pattern, a method. Powell offered nothing different and never seemed at home here - thank God, he's done nothing since. Under Powell, at its worst, we were only having 2 training sessions a week, and they were half sessions and was mainly due to Powell spending most of his time in London. This suited some of the players sadly so they didn't complain. What had training got to do with Powell being absent? What your saying is the entire coaching staff including his second in command went absent half the time when Powell wasn't there! That sounds daft. Doubt Dean Hoyle would have been happy to see Canalside vacant half the time on his impromptu visits.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 10, 2019 19:49:28 GMT 1
Gonne say. Just cos Powell wasn't there doesn;t mean they didn't train. Brian Clough famously barely ever turned up at Forest's training sessions for years.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 10, 2019 19:51:32 GMT 1
powell v wagner??? now a moot argument...
hoping for the play to be 'mixed up' in a good way, next season..
personally would like to see us score a goal more than the opposition but can live with conceding one less..
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Post by Maynardblue on Jun 10, 2019 20:02:20 GMT 1
Under Powell, at its worst, we were only having 2 training sessions a week, and they were half sessions and was mainly due to Powell spending most of his time in London. This suited some of the players sadly so they didn't complain. What had training got to do with Powell being absent? What your saying is the entire coaching staff including his second in command went absent half the time when Powell wasn't there! That sounds daft. Doubt Dean Hoyle would have been happy to see Canalside vacant half the time on his impromptu visits. I agree but that was the case. Possibly because if they trained when he wasn't there questions would be asked. And you're quite right Dean wasn't happy.. You know what happened shortly after.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 20:35:21 GMT 1
What had training got to do with Powell being absent? What your saying is the entire coaching staff including his second in command went absent half the time when Powell wasn't there! That sounds daft. Doubt Dean Hoyle would have been happy to see Canalside vacant half the time on his impromptu visits. I agree but that was the case. Possibly because if they trained when he wasn't there questions would be asked. And you're quite right Dean wasn't happy.. You know what happened shortly after. Questions about what? I used to visit Canalside regularly on Mondays, not only were players training, occasionally I took in an under 23 match and Powell was invariably in attendance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 20:41:35 GMT 1
I'd take 20 million and I suspect Dean / Phil would too. if the lad says he wants to leave he will but town will strike a hard bargain. no evidence he wants to leave but shalke would e verty tempting.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 10, 2019 20:44:50 GMT 1
I agree but that was the case. Possibly because if they trained when he wasn't there questions would be asked. And you're quite right Dean wasn't happy.. You know what happened shortly after. Questions about what? I used to visit Canalside regularly on Mondays, not only were players training, occasionally I took in an under 23 match and Powell was invariably in attendance. I thought we all found out about the lack of training because Dean mentioned it during a Q&A after Cozy was sacked
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 20:48:12 GMT 1
Questions about what? I used to visit Canalside regularly on Mondays, not only were players training, occasionally I took in an under 23 match and Powell was invariably in attendance. I thought we all found out about the lack of training because Dean mentioned it during a Q&A after Cozy was sacked A q&a I must have missed, just going on what I saw.
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Post by yappledapple on Jun 10, 2019 20:49:37 GMT 1
DW starts his rebuilding at Schalke. Who said the German’s don’t have a sense of humour...
Obviously didn’t fancy taking Flo!
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jun 11, 2019 9:27:10 GMT 1
Powell had a strategy, it was just repetitive kicks up the flanks with the winger chasing down the full back, hoping they’d put it out of play so we had possession advanced up the pitch.
I’ve walked past building sites that i’d have preferred to watch for 90 minutes.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jun 11, 2019 9:42:48 GMT 1
Reece Brown. Just finalising Tribunal fee.
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Post by terrier030702 on Jun 11, 2019 10:02:32 GMT 1
Reece Brown. Just finalising Tribunal fee. Says who?
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Post by Hank Hill on Jun 11, 2019 10:07:26 GMT 1
Reece Brown. Just finalising Tribunal fee. Blurry photo outside canalside or it isn't true
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Post by ColchTerrier on Jun 11, 2019 10:13:49 GMT 1
Reece Brown. Just finalising Tribunal fee. Happy with this.
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Post by townatheart on Jun 11, 2019 10:34:38 GMT 1
Reece Brown. Just finalising Tribunal fee. Says who? Well, at the moment it is tomtheterrier And, all together now "TIME WILL TELL" (sometimes those old cliches just ring true)
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Jun 11, 2019 10:55:35 GMT 1
Linked with Bolton keeper Ben Alnwick, don't know much about him TBH.
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