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Post by townrwe on May 6, 2019 12:37:38 GMT 1
Wouldn't surprise me, but he seems pretty professional so will have probably done it in the correct way.... let's be honest there are more fashionable clubs in the championship that he would probably prefer to play for, so a move for someone that doesn't quite fit into seiwerts side would seem reasonable for him and us. New GK Smith Schindler stankovich louwe Hogg mooy bacuna Mbenza grant Diakhaby I thinks that's probably about the best we can hope for next season, obviously with additions to strengthen across the team. Looking at this we need defensive first team players, probably a first choice midfielder, but I'm not sure who they would replace. Cut our losses on the other wingers and get 2 backups/stronger players. (Sobhi might be an option as backup) mounie or a new second striker. We can then fill in with Daly, Rowe etc. not forgetting Duhaney, O'Brien, Pyke, Payne, RVLP, big Col We need some quality at the back and more goals from midfield. I can see Bacuna banging the goals in, mooy will always get a few if he stays, so maybe as painful as it would be.... a replacement for Hogg? O'Brien maybe? Its ashame Phil Billing has downed tools since the Jan transfer window. He obviously had a move lined up. We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed this summer.... let's hope Josh marsh has been the one bringing in the hits and not rebbe or Wagner. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 6, 2019 13:26:46 GMT 1
pay the 2/3 you really want to keep a wage big enough to do this.. its easier to build a team around a spine and a leader(Hogg) than to try starting again..
Schindler/Kongolo Hogg/Mooy Grant...
Then its a matter of who is staying or who we have to keep..
The fees for others is unknown as yet but the above will tell us how many we 'need' to bring in before we even look at players/fees etc for incoming players..
not just as easy as clearing out and replacing..
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Post by WirralTerrier on May 6, 2019 13:27:14 GMT 1
not forgetting Duhaney, O'Brien, Pyke, Payne, RVLP, big Col We need some quality at the back and more goals from midfield. I can see Bacuna banging the goals in, mooy will always get a few if he stays, so maybe as painful as it would be.... a replacement for Hogg? O'Brien maybe? Its ashame Phil Billing has downed tools since the Jan transfer window. He obviously had a move lined up. We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed this summer.... let's hope Josh marsh has been the one bringing in the hits and not rebbe or Wagner. "We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed on this summer" said every club in the league. We wouldn't be in this position if our recruitment had been better last summer. And with the messages of us only getting players in if they go out I'm not holding much hope as that makes the window much more difficult to plan and organise and get players that are also wanted by other clubs. It's likely we will end up in a position where our better players are snapped up at the end of the window and we have a mad rush on to find replacements out of who's left available for us. |
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Post by nshackle on May 6, 2019 16:19:21 GMT 1
I have been told in the last couple of weeks that there are issues in the dressing rooms at Brighton and Stoke, big clear out at Stoke and Hughton likely to go atBrighton, along with some of the strikers that cost approx £120 million and have been worse than Mounie. Hughton would do well to get out of Brighton whilst his stock is still high. They've been regressing for a few months now, and for me it's only the solidity of the Duffy/Dunk partnership and Murray's goals which separates them from the bottom three. My money will be on them going down next season when they will probably appoint a De Boer type character to try and 'progress to the next level...'and fail miserably. Had my doubts about Hughton after his Norwich spell where he set them up very negatively and van Wolfswinkel did a very fine impression of Mounie/Depoitre, but he has done a tremendous job at Brighton to be fair. Their transfer business hasn't looked a great deal better than ours overall, for all the plaudits Pascal Gross got last season he has looked a one season wonder this time, Izquierdo has barely been any better than Mbenza\Diakahby, Locardia has also done nothing. Andone has chipped in with a few goals but looks a very spikey character - he had a real go at Hughton when taken off for his own good at Spurs where he was already on a yellow and had been very fortunate to escape a second one. There is only so long they will be able to rely on Glenn Murray without getting in a solid replacement. I could see Hughton at a West Brom or Stoke before long. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 6, 2019 16:25:06 GMT 1
Whether he wants to leave or not, I was surprised Zanka wasn't on the lap of honour as it doesn;t seem to be his character. Always thanks the fans after games whilst other players head straight for the tunnel, even in games where hes not got off the bench. So could well have been ill. I saw Flo rocking up at the game in his big BMW, so he was present. What time? I saw him in his big white BMW driving away from the stadium about 20 minutes before kick off. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 6, 2019 22:04:09 GMT 1
I have been told in the last couple of weeks that there are issues in the dressing rooms at Brighton and Stoke, big clear out at Stoke and Hughton likely to go atBrighton, along with some of the strikers that cost approx £120 million and have been worse than Mounie. Hughton would do well to get out of Brighton whilst his stock is still high. They've been regressing for a few months now, and for me it's only the solidity of the Duffy/Dunk partnership and Murray's goals which separates them from the bottom three. My money will be on them going down next season when they will probably appoint a De Boer type character to try and 'progress to the next level...'and fail miserably. Had my doubts about Hughton after his Norwich spell where he set them up very negatively and van Wolfswinkel did a very fine impression of Mounie/Depoitre, but he has done a tremendous job at Brighton to be fair. Their transfer business hasn't looked a great deal better than ours overall, for all the plaudits Pascal Gross got last season he has looked a one season wonder this time, Izquierdo has barely been any better than Mbenza\Diakahby, Locardia has also done nothing. Andone has chipped in with a few goals but looks a very spikey character - he had a real go at Hughton when taken off for his own good at Spurs where he was already on a yellow and had been very fortunate to escape a second one. There is only so long they will be able to rely on Glenn Murray without getting in a solid replacement. I could see Hughton at a West Brom or Stoke before long. Most of me agrees with you, but the flip side of that is - where would he go to find a chairman as good as the one he's got? Brighton are one of the few (if not the only one) clubs in the top 4 divisions that can claim to have a chairman as good as Dean Hoyle. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 6, 2019 22:27:03 GMT 1
We need some quality at the back and more goals from midfield. I can see Bacuna banging the goals in, mooy will always get a few if he stays, so maybe as painful as it would be.... a replacement for Hogg? O'Brien maybe? Its ashame Phil Billing has downed tools since the Jan transfer window. He obviously had a move lined up. We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed this summer.... let's hope Josh marsh has been the one bringing in the hits and not rebbe or Wagner. " We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed on this summer" said every club in the league. We wouldn't be in this position if our recruitment had been better last summer. And with the messages of us only getting players in if they go out I'm not holding much hope as that makes the window much more difficult to plan and organise and get players that are also wanted by other clubs. It's likely we will end up in a position where our better players are snapped up at the end of the window and we have a mad rush on to find replacements out of who's left available for us. True. We had it nailed on in the summer of 2016. Players were identified early, signed early and team spirit put in place early and a perfect storm ensued so that we benefited. This year? JS has had time to assess his squad. He has known for quite some time what division we were likely to be playing in next season. I expect him to know who he wants to bring in & who to ship out. And I expect the business to be done early. On the flip side, a number of the players we want to ship out are probably still under contract. They won't necessarily be easy to shift. Wagner had the advantage of a small squad left over from the Powell days - JS might not have that. These are interesting (but imo exciting) times. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 22:29:12 GMT 1
I saw Flo rocking up at the game in his big BMW, so he was present. What time? I saw him in his big white BMW driving away from the stadium about 20 minutes before kick off. Crikey. It was about 12:40 when I saw him going in. Disgusting he’s gone in and then left before the game like that, bet he never got out of his car. Should be getting fined some of these players. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 7, 2019 7:57:11 GMT 1
wonder if Sobhi will come back ?
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Post by detox on May 7, 2019 8:09:21 GMT 1
I think Sean Morrison from cardiff would be an ideal aquisition for us. he was great while on loan with us and he's improved since. Maybe he's ready for a change ? He's only 28 and done ok in the PL and think his contract ends next year. Wednesday had a £5m bid turned down a while back but with his contract nearing it's end he might go for less now ?
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Post by nshackle on May 7, 2019 8:37:13 GMT 1
Hughton would do well to get out of Brighton whilst his stock is still high. They've been regressing for a few months now, and for me it's only the solidity of the Duffy/Dunk partnership and Murray's goals which separates them from the bottom three. My money will be on them going down next season when they will probably appoint a De Boer type character to try and 'progress to the next level...'and fail miserably. Had my doubts about Hughton after his Norwich spell where he set them up very negatively and van Wolfswinkel did a very fine impression of Mounie/Depoitre, but he has done a tremendous job at Brighton to be fair. Their transfer business hasn't looked a great deal better than ours overall, for all the plaudits Pascal Gross got last season he has looked a one season wonder this time, Izquierdo has barely been any better than Mbenza\Diakahby, Locardia has also done nothing. Andone has chipped in with a few goals but looks a very spikey character - he had a real go at Hughton when taken off for his own good at Spurs where he was already on a yellow and had been very fortunate to escape a second one. There is only so long they will be able to rely on Glenn Murray without getting in a solid replacement. I could see Hughton at a West Brom or Stoke before long. Most of me agrees with you, but the flip side of that is - where would he go to find a chairman as good as the one he's got? Brighton are one of the few (if not the only one) clubs in the top 4 divisions that can claim to have a chairman as good as Dean Hoyle. I agree there aren't many, although Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough is one, their fans are very unhappy with Pulis. The Coates family have been in charge of Stoke for a long time, there are worse employers than them too. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 7, 2019 8:44:42 GMT 1
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 7, 2019 8:54:47 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be surprised if Flo was one of the referred to by DH. Wasn’t he refusing to return to training for Ingolstadt when they got relegated from the Bundesliga? We then picked him up on loan before he signed a contract with us.
Sabiri is another, we all know the saga he had leaving his German club.
As far as Lossl goes, he was benched at Mainz, looking absolutely useless. We took a chance on him and he gets back to form. Didn’t sign a contract with us and it looks like we’ve only picked up the remainder of his contract while paying for him what Mainz paid for him. IMO it showed what type of character he is by not extending his contract. Could have easily signed a contract with a buyout clause that allowed Town to get some money back on their outlay.
Zanka had his head turned by the Danish manager after his WC performance. Bigged him up while putting Town down.
These guys will one day look back and realise how lucky they were to play in the Premier League and I bet they will regret their own behavior. It will take them to grow up(will take time) and realise they had no professional pride in their performances.
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Post by TTCMatt on May 7, 2019 9:31:22 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be surprised if Flo was one of the referred to by DH. Wasn’t he refusing to return to training for Ingolstadt when they got relegated from the Bundesliga? We then picked him up on loan before he signed a contract with us. Sabiri is another, we all know the saga he had leaving his German club. As far as Lossl goes, he was benched at Mainz, looking absolutely useless. We took a chance on him and he gets back to form. Didn’t sign a contract with us and it looks like we’ve only picked up the remainder of his contract while paying for him what Mainz paid for him. IMO it showed what type of character he is by not extending his contract. Could have easily signed a contract with a buyout clause that allowed Town to get some money back on their outlay. Zanka had his head turned by the Danish manager after his WC performance. Bigged him up while putting Town down. These guys will one day look back and realise how lucky they were to play in the Premier League and I bet they will regret their own behavior. It will take them to grow up(will take time) and realise they had no professional pride in their performances. Jason Puncheon one of the worst. Scrapped, argued and fell out with most pretty much from the start. Hard to believe this guy was captain material at his old club. |
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Post by space hardware on May 7, 2019 9:34:19 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling.
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 7, 2019 9:39:35 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be surprised if Flo was one of the referred to by DH. Wasn’t he refusing to return to training for Ingolstadt when they got relegated from the Bundesliga? We then picked him up on loan before he signed a contract with us. Sabiri is another, we all know the saga he had leaving his German club. As far as Lossl goes, he was benched at Mainz, looking absolutely useless. We took a chance on him and he gets back to form. Didn’t sign a contract with us and it looks like we’ve only picked up the remainder of his contract while paying for him what Mainz paid for him. IMO it showed what type of character he is by not extending his contract. Could have easily signed a contract with a buyout clause that allowed Town to get some money back on their outlay. Zanka had his head turned by the Danish manager after his WC performance. Bigged him up while putting Town down. These guys will one day look back and realise how lucky they were to play in the Premier League and I bet they will regret their own behavior. It will take them to grow up(will take time) and realise they had no professional pride in their performances. Jason Puncheon one of the worst. Scrapped, argued and fell out with most pretty much from the start. Hard to believe this guy was captain material at his old club. You wonder why he even bothered to come here with that attitude? |
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Post by rastrick32 on May 7, 2019 10:21:03 GMT 1
What time? I saw him in his big white BMW driving away from the stadium about 20 minutes before kick off. Crikey. It was about 12:40 when I saw him going in. Disgusting he’s gone in and then left before the game like that, bet he never got out of his car. Should be getting fined some of these players. I don't mind players with a bit of an attitude if they are performing on the pitch but Flo has been absolutely shite for us this season. If he's downed tools, then all I can say is good riddance. |
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Post by palaceman42 on May 7, 2019 10:24:27 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling. I said at the time I wasn't sure why you'd signed him from us, and I still don't understand it. Can't see where he's going to end up after this season, as his contract is up with us. I saw no upside in him for you guys, as his legs had gone and he seemed too slow to perform at this level, especially coming back from the injury he had which slowed him down further. |
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Post by dewsburyborn on May 7, 2019 10:38:52 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling. Maybe he needed to get out of south London for a few months ... |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 7, 2019 10:55:54 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling. to be fair to him, he came into a club full of bad karma. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 7, 2019 13:17:26 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling. I said at the time I wasn't sure why you'd signed him from us, and I still don't understand it. Can't see where he's going to end up after this season, as his contract is up with us. I saw no upside in him for you guys, as his legs had gone and he seemed too slow to perform at this level, especially coming back from the injury he had which slowed him down further. Agreed. Some signings don't work out as well as you'd hope, but this one was a signing that made no sense at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight. |
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Post by iams4m on May 7, 2019 13:41:03 GMT 1
I think when DH mentions "disgraces" he's certainly referring to players with public displays of off the pitch insolence.
As mentioned before in this thread: Lossl, Billing and Zanka touting themselves to the footballing wold halfway through a season is indeed a disgrace.
Say what you want about Mounie and his performances on the pitch, and no matter how genuine or disingenuous you see it, his "Town forever 💪" comment on his Instagram was a nice touch. His heart seems to be in the right place.
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Post by Champers on May 7, 2019 13:50:09 GMT 1
What time? I saw him in his big white BMW driving away from the stadium about 20 minutes before kick off. Crikey. It was about 12:40 when I saw him going in. Disgusting he’s gone in and then left before the game like that, bet he never got out of his car. Should be getting fined some of these players. Coming, going...Sure he wasn't just doing "doughnuts" in the car park? |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on May 7, 2019 13:57:06 GMT 1
Puncheon has to go down as one of the worst, most pointless loan signings we've ever made. Baffling. to be fair to him, he came into a club full of bad karma. not sure it was karma. Bad juju maybe |
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Post by shawsie on May 7, 2019 14:10:13 GMT 1
I think when DH mentions "disgraces" he's certainly referring to players with public displays of off the pitch insolence. As mentioned before in this thread: Lossl, Billing and Zanka touting themselves to the footballing wold halfway through a season is indeed a disgrace. Say what you want about Mounie and his performances on the pitch, and no matter how genuine or disingenuous you see it, his "Town forever 💪" comment on his Instagram was a nice touch. His heart seems to be in the right place. Mounie has had a shocker but with the right service could prove useful and he wants to stay. A couple of goals for Benin in the summer would do him the world of good but he has to earn a place first....up to him now. |
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Post by iams4m on May 7, 2019 14:21:06 GMT 1
I think when DH mentions "disgraces" he's certainly referring to players with public displays of off the pitch insolence. As mentioned before in this thread: Lossl, Billing and Zanka touting themselves to the footballing wold halfway through a season is indeed a disgrace. Say what you want about Mounie and his performances on the pitch, and no matter how genuine or disingenuous you see it, his "Town forever 💪" comment on his Instagram was a nice touch. His heart seems to be in the right place. Mounie has had a shocker but with the right service could prove useful and he wants to stay. A couple of goals for Benin in the summer would do him the world of good but he has to earn a place first....up to him now. I've always thought he would absolutely terror the Championship, like you say, up to him though. Time will tell. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 7, 2019 14:40:50 GMT 1
We need some quality at the back and more goals from midfield. I can see Bacuna banging the goals in, mooy will always get a few if he stays, so maybe as painful as it would be.... a replacement for Hogg? O'Brien maybe? Its ashame Phil Billing has downed tools since the Jan transfer window. He obviously had a move lined up. We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed this summer.... let's hope Josh marsh has been the one bringing in the hits and not rebbe or Wagner. "We are in good shape if we get recruitment nailed on this summer" said every club in the league. We wouldn't be in this position if our recruitment had been better last summer. And with the messages of us only getting players in if they go out I'm not holding much hope as that makes the window much more difficult to plan and organise and get players that are also wanted by other clubs. It's likely we will end up in a position where our better players are snapped up at the end of the window and we have a mad rush on to find replacements out of who's left available for us. If the players do not all 'leave', then Grant/Pritchard/Mooy/Schindler/Kongolo etc will look much, much better in the Championship... If they all leave then there should be some cash to spend??? Why would it be just our best players being 'snapped up' and also 'at the end of the window'  maybe you are being a little paranoid about Town being the only small club in the leagues? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 7, 2019 14:49:21 GMT 1
Keep the spine....Schindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Hogg (maybe) Mooy and Grant.
Bring back VLP.
Build around those and we will do OK in the Champs (no chance of promotion though).
A couple of cute signings needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 15:03:49 GMT 1
I said at the time I wasn't sure why you'd signed him from us, and I still don't understand it. Can't see where he's going to end up after this season, as his contract is up with us. I saw no upside in him for you guys, as his legs had gone and he seemed too slow to perform at this level, especially coming back from the injury he had which slowed him down further. Agreed. Some signings don't work out as well as you'd hope, but this one was a signing that made no sense at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight. The sense was that we expected to be screwed with Mooy either injured or at the Asia Cup, and Puncheon was on the face of it an old pro who could hold that role. That he turned out to be nowhere up to things physically is just the luck of the draw...assumedly we watched videos of his handful of appearances in December but he only played about 10mins so probably difficult to see that he’d totally lost the spark needed. (Although it was surely obvious he’s a bit of a nasty moaning twat when we needed a positive role model?) |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 15:06:26 GMT 1
I think when DH mentions "disgraces" he's certainly referring to players with public displays of off the pitch insolence. As mentioned before in this thread: Lossl, Billing and Zanka touting themselves to the footballing wold halfway through a season is indeed a disgrace. Say what you want about Mounie and his performances on the pitch, and no matter how genuine or disingenuous you see it, his "Town forever 💪" comment on his Instagram was a nice touch. His heart seems to be in the right place. Disagree on Lossl, as a player over age of 23 and coming to end of his contract he’s free to talk to anyone from January. The other two 100%, which possibly explains why Lossl is featuring now he’s over the injury that kept him out. |
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