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Post by shawsie on May 7, 2019 23:01:49 GMT 1
This system must be fucking amazing to outweigh our best player since frank Worthington. Has he played it yet cos we seem to just lose every game and all the players are hacked off ? But hey if this amazing system means we walk the league next season then I'm in . Clayton is as good. And nick yet again proves his zero knowledge of the beautiful game!
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Post by ACW on May 7, 2019 23:03:09 GMT 1
Mooy is the best player by a country mile as part of a two in a 4231... I think he is more a very good player in a 433 playing either MCR or MCL To suggest he wouldn't be missed or is easily replaced is laughable.... but I do believe that the balance of the team could be better in a 433 with someone else, it's a case of it balance would make up for the loss of such a wonderful player. This system must be fucking amazing to outweigh our best player since frank Worthington. Has he played it yet cos we seem to just lose every game and all the players are hacked off ? But hey if this amazing system means we walk the league next season then I'm in . Personally if we can keep him, I'd rather we came up with a system to accommodate and get the best out of Mooy.
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Post by townrwe on May 7, 2019 23:18:34 GMT 1
Bacuna leaving would just sum up this season. He's got the most potential of any player currently on the books Not buying the baby reason as he and his partner knew she was pregnant when he agreed a move to an English club. If he goes it will be because he thinks he's better than the Championship, which he is. Offer him an improved deal and do everything we can to keep him It would be tough for bacuna to leave. Obviously found a system and a manager that works well for him. He is improving and 44 games next season would do him the world of good. Think he will be here.
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Post by townrwe on May 7, 2019 23:19:42 GMT 1
This system must be fucking amazing to outweigh our best player since frank Worthington. Has he played it yet cos we seem to just lose every game and all the players are hacked off ? But hey if this amazing system means we walk the league next season then I'm in . Personally if we can keep him, I'd rather we came up with a system to accommodate and get the best out of Mooy. Agreed. But 433 is the way we are going to play. So it's time to find players that can thrive In that system
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 23:31:45 GMT 1
I’m not bothered...whilst I rate him, it’s difficult to see how he’ll ever really be massively effective playing the style that Siewert seems to be heading towards. Bacuna would be a bigger loss than Mooy as things stand. Mind you...Quaner is one of my footballing heroes. 🤷‍♂️🤣 You always did talk absolute nonsense Nigel. What is it about " siewerts style" which couldn't accommodate our best player by a country mile ? What it is, is that I’ve yet to see Mooy have anything close to even a half decent game in a 4-3-3. He was our third best midfielder in a game where we grabbed a point from Man U.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 23:57:21 GMT 1
Anybody that wants to or not bothered if Mooy leaves are, excuse the French, “ off their fucking rockers “ His injury killed us. Our only bonefide premier league player. If there’s any chance whatsoever of keeping him then we must. He’s not been arsed since he returned from injury and I don’t blame him. The players were so wank in his absence. Couldn’t even hold it together for a few weeks against mediocre opposition. At championship level Mooy will be the best player in the league again. If we keep Kongolo, Schindler, Grant, Hogg, Bacuna there’s no reason we can’t do very well next year.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 23:58:13 GMT 1
You always did talk absolute nonsense Nigel. What is it about " siewerts style" which couldn't accommodate our best player by a country mile ? What it is, is that I’ve yet to see Mooy have anything close to even a half decent game in a 4-3-3. He was our third best midfielder in a game where we grabbed a point from Man U. In a pointless dead rubber game that meant absolutely nothing.
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Post by Town Duppy on May 8, 2019 0:01:27 GMT 1
What it is, is that I’ve yet to see Mooy have anything close to even a half decent game in a 4-3-3. He was our third best midfielder in a game where we grabbed a point from Man U. In a pointless dead rubber game that meant absolutely nothing. They had to win.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 0:13:45 GMT 1
In a pointless dead rubber game that meant absolutely nothing. They had to win. For Town it meant nothing. I just don’t think how he’s played under Jan, often out of position in games that meant nothing is not a worthwhile way of assessing him. If there’s any possibility he’d stay then we be crazy not to take it. Unless the plan is not to try to come straight back.
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Post by Town Duppy on May 8, 2019 0:23:31 GMT 1
For Town it meant nothing. I just don’t think how he’s played under Jan, often out of position in games that meant nothing is not a worthwhile way of assessing him. If there’s any possibility he’d stay then we be crazy not to take it. Unless the plan is not to try to come straight back. If he wants to stay we should keep him he's a great player but don't tell me playing Man Utd meant nothing that's just daft.
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Post by Big Ern on May 8, 2019 2:30:39 GMT 1
I saw Flo rocking up at the game in his big BMW, so he was present. What time? I saw him in his big white BMW driving away from the stadium about 20 minutes before kick off. He just nipped to the petrol station for some fags
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 2:36:36 GMT 1
For Town it meant nothing. I just don’t think how he’s played under Jan, often out of position in games that meant nothing is not a worthwhile way of assessing him. If there’s any possibility he’d stay then we be crazy not to take it. Unless the plan is not to try to come straight back. If he wants to stay we should keep him he's a great player but don't tell me playing Man Utd meant nothing that's just daft.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 2:37:07 GMT 1
For Town it meant nothing. I just don’t think how he’s played under Jan, often out of position in games that meant nothing is not a worthwhile way of assessing him. If there’s any possibility he’d stay then we be crazy not to take it. Unless the plan is not to try to come straight back. If he wants to stay we should keep him he's a great player but don't tell me playing Man Utd meant nothing that's just daft. Meant nowt to me or to Mooy.
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Post by golcarexile on May 8, 2019 5:58:25 GMT 1
I've always thought he would absolutely terror the Championship, like you say, up to him though. Time will tell. I don't think so. We all thought he was a beast after his goals at Palace. Long term he has not proven himself. If he wants to pull a Town shirt on he will get my support, but I don't think he would terrorize ANY defence. Perhaps not terrorize, but I still think he could be handy in the Championship. Earlier in the season, before it all went completely pear-shaped, he turned in a few good performances without getting on the score sheet. Recently he's looked desperately out of touch and unable to even do the basics, but some of the abuse he's come in for has been totally uncalled for. He's often criticized for his attitude, being lazy, not caring etc. but I've just seen a young lad low on confidence, struggling more than most in a struggling team. I'd doubt if Mounie is one of the players that Dean was referring to. He's always come across to me anyway, as a popular member of the squad who wants to do his best for the club and fans. At no point has he ever suggested that he wants away, or that he's too good for us or the Championship. If he's still with us in August I'll be getting behind him and giving him a chance. A couple of early goals might make all the difference.
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Post by Town Duppy on May 8, 2019 6:12:56 GMT 1
If he wants to stay we should keep him he's a great player but don't tell me playing Man Utd meant nothing that's just daft. Meant nowt to me or to Mooy. Is that what he told you?
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 8, 2019 7:13:56 GMT 1
The biggest problem with most of our players is they " THINK " they are better players than they really are ,and many think they are actually bigger than the club. They are in for one massive fooking shock in the end of season fire sale ,and so much crap that i never want to see again in a town shirt The man to build a team around is Mooy and the club must try everything to keep him The odd one may think that, my view is some were massively lacking in confidence and the complete opposite. I would pick Hogg, Kongolo or even Bacuna before Grant, mainly because he hasn't been here two minutes. It's one thing criticising performances, which you can see, but some also do this based on what they speculate the players perceive their own worth is. This is almost said as a fact. Coco from Devon isn't the only one who has said this. It's just ridiculous. You are not a good 'supporter' if you assume the worst when there is nothing to substantiate it. NB - if the comments are directed at specific players based on something other than a whim, fair game.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 10:04:41 GMT 1
Meant nowt to me or to Mooy. Is that what he told you? In his performances since we’ve been adrift yes. I just find the idea of people judging him on any performances since then a bit pointless. Similarly the big Bacuna love in. We need to see what he can do when it counts.
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Post by Batman on May 8, 2019 12:47:29 GMT 1
The biggest problem with most of our players is they " THINK " they are better players than they really are ,and many think they are actually bigger than the club.They are in for one massive fooking shock in the end of season fire sale ,and so much crap that i never want to see again in a town shirt The man to build a team around is Mooy and the club must try everything to keep him Any team's scouting department can look at this season one of two ways, depending on what type of player they're after; a) They see a player who has potential and has (albeit limited) premier league experience, who was unable to live up to that potential due to the quality of players around him. Could take a gamble and they come good surrounded and influenced by better teammates or b) They see a player that when the going got tough, they decided that they didn't want to know and either downed tools, feigned injuries etc. so that they could protect themselves and distance themselves from being in a relegated side. Would you want a player who when things weren't going so well didn't get their head down and try and help their team, instead of thinking only of themselves? No I in team. Suspect a lot of the 'disgraces' fall in to the latter which is definitely not the ethos of HTAFC!
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Post by Ross83 on May 8, 2019 12:56:35 GMT 1
Bacuna leaving would just sum up this season. He's got the most potential of any player currently on the books Not buying the baby reason as he and his partner knew she was pregnant when he agreed a move to an English club. If he goes it will be because he thinks he's better than the Championship, which he is. Offer him an improved deal and do everything we can to keep him I really hope there is nothing in this, I think we would struggle to replace Bacuna and what he brings to the pitch, passes and tackles aside his work rate and terrier like style would be a big miss. I fear that there could be something in it though, I see he's taken off all the photos of him and his missus from his Instagram.
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Post by royrace on May 8, 2019 13:51:26 GMT 1
Bacuna leaving would just sum up this season. He's got the most potential of any player currently on the books Not buying the baby reason as he and his partner knew she was pregnant when he agreed a move to an English club. If he goes it will be because he thinks he's better than the Championship, which he is. Offer him an improved deal and do everything we can to keep him His performances have been impressive but I'd say he's still miles off being too good for the championship, I'd say it's exactly his level at the moment, still improving hopefully and might be too good one day but not yet.
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Post by rastrick32 on May 8, 2019 15:48:47 GMT 1
I wonder who are the DATM 'disgraces'?
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Post by wigster on May 8, 2019 15:50:42 GMT 1
Collin. No way is he a disgrace. Went out on loan, did his stuff and will come back a hero. So presumably Ipswich will be desperate to keep him, and their fans love him... Have you looked on the Ipswich forums about their views of SuperCol?? If you think we're critical of him at DATM read their views !
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Post by dewsburyborn on May 8, 2019 17:41:25 GMT 1
Bacuna leaving would just sum up this season. He's got the most potential of any player currently on the books Not buying the baby reason as he and his partner knew she was pregnant when he agreed a move to an English club. If he goes it will be because he thinks he's better than the Championship, which he is. Offer him an improved deal and do everything we can to keep him I really hope there is nothing in this, I think we would struggle to replace Bacuna and what he brings to the pitch, passes and tackles aside his work rate and terrier like style would be a big miss. I fear that there could be something in it though, I see he's taken off all the photos of him and his missus from his Instagram. Having come to this late, where did the idea that he wants to leave come from ? As Cardiff are accompanying us to the Championship, I wonder if his brother is of the same mind too ?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 8, 2019 17:51:22 GMT 1
I really hope there is nothing in this, I think we would struggle to replace Bacuna and what he brings to the pitch, passes and tackles aside his work rate and terrier like style would be a big miss. I fear that there could be something in it though, I see he's taken off all the photos of him and his missus from his Instagram. Having come to this late, where did the idea that he wants to leave come from ? As Cardiff are accompanying us to the Championship, I wonder if his brother is of the same mind too ? His response to Oggy on Sunday didn't fill me with confidence that he wanted to stay
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 8, 2019 17:57:14 GMT 1
I wonder who are the DATM 'disgraces'? Folk who flounce off and delete their accounts every 3 weeks before skulking back anonymously maybe ? ;-)
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Post by Ross83 on May 8, 2019 18:39:06 GMT 1
Having come to this late, where did the idea that he wants to leave come from ? As Cardiff are accompanying us to the Championship, I wonder if his brother is of the same mind too ? His response to Oggy on Sunday didn't fill me with confidence that he wanted to stay What was said? I missed this.
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Post by portugalterrier on May 8, 2019 18:41:05 GMT 1
Can’t in all honesty see anyone getting interest from the Premiership apart from maybe Mooy, anyone going will become a fringe squad player at a team battling in the bottom 8, some may get interest from abroad, Bacuna and Grant will be here next season, both nowhere near Premier level yet, imo.
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Post by rastrick32 on May 8, 2019 18:46:33 GMT 1
I wonder who are the DATM 'disgraces'? Folk who flounce off and delete their accounts every 3 weeks before skulking back anonymously maybe ? ;-) Agreed, folk like that are a special kind of twat. Oh, hang on a minute....
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Post by Lard Buttie on May 8, 2019 18:54:00 GMT 1
His response to Oggy on Sunday didn't fill me with confidence that he wanted to stay What was said? I missed this. Was asked directly if he was staying. Just said thinking of Southampton game, season not over yet etc. I'm paraphrasing
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 8, 2019 18:57:17 GMT 1
His response to Oggy on Sunday didn't fill me with confidence that he wanted to stay What was said? I missed this. I don't speak about the future. I have one more game for Huddersfield this season. Or something like that I suppose you could interpret that as commitment/focus on the final game. Or as avoiding committing himself long term
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