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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on May 29, 2019 20:19:20 GMT 1
Will begin their preparations fort Prem by bidding 10 million for Joe Lolley. Best of luck to the lad if it goes through
We’re on our way We’re on our way
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Post by Town Duppy on May 29, 2019 20:38:43 GMT 1
Show me the money.
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Post by terryya on May 29, 2019 20:44:34 GMT 1
You'd hope Town have a decent sell on.
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Post by El Mel on May 29, 2019 21:07:05 GMT 1
You'd hope Town have a decent sell on. Clone him, get the real Joe back, and let Forest sell the fake JL to Villa for 10 bazillion quid?
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 29, 2019 21:17:30 GMT 1
Haven't they seen videos of him against premier league defenders? Still, he's had another full season to develope so who knows he might be more up to the job now. will be interesting to see how he does next season if the deal comes off.
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Post by lochnessterrier on May 29, 2019 22:41:20 GMT 1
Could become Scott Arfield Mark 2.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on May 29, 2019 22:46:40 GMT 1
Who did we replace him with, for how much and how did they do in comparison?
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Post by Captainslapper on May 29, 2019 23:26:28 GMT 1
Think they'll need to bid nearer £15m to get him. Hope they do. Presuming we have the standard 20% of profit sell on clause, we could end up with nice little £2.5 to 3m bonus.
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Post by Stewpot on May 30, 2019 0:05:31 GMT 1
Still scored one of our better goals in the 2 year stint in the Premier League v West Ham.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 0:33:35 GMT 1
Haven't they seen videos of him against premier league defenders? Still, he's had another full season to develope so who knows he might be more up to the job now. will be interesting to see how he does next season if the deal comes off. Seems to make light work of Premier League defenders...
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Post by ACW on May 30, 2019 0:46:20 GMT 1
Could become Scott Arfield Mark 2. And just like Scott Arfield Mark 1, we were right to let him go at the time we did. Both players have thrived since they left Town but neither of them really did the business for us. Certainly not on a consistent basis. These things happen in football, but I think it's safe to say neither Arfield nor Lolley would have become the players they are now had they stayed at Town. They needed a move, and they've made the most of them. Good luck to 'em.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 30, 2019 6:15:09 GMT 1
Haven't they seen videos of him against premier league defenders? Still, he's had another full season to develope so who knows he might be more up to the job now. will be interesting to see how he does next season if the deal comes off. Seems to make light work of Premier League defenders... Show us another goal then against Premier League defenders.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on May 30, 2019 8:34:31 GMT 1
Think they'll need to bid nearer £15m to get him. Hope they do. Presuming we have the standard 20% of profit sell on clause, we could end up with nice little £2.5 to 3m bonus. Or put it another way, we've lost out on £12.5m.
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Post by explorer on May 30, 2019 8:43:49 GMT 1
Think they'll need to bid nearer £15m to get him. Hope they do. Presuming we have the standard 20% of profit sell on clause, we could end up with nice little £2.5 to 3m bonus. Or put it another way, we've lost out on £12.5m. So if he’d stayed with us and not got any game time, he’d still be worth £15m now would he?🤔
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Post by Captainslapper on May 30, 2019 8:48:52 GMT 1
Think they'll need to bid nearer £15m to get him. Hope they do. Presuming we have the standard 20% of profit sell on clause, we could end up with nice little £2.5 to 3m bonus. Or put it another way, we've lost out on £12.5m. Its possible but unlikely. Hes thrived at Forest and at that level and has had a long injury free run which will have helped massively. At Town, even fit, he was likely to be in and out. The disappointment as far as we're concerned is, like Ince, we let them leave but replaced them with inferior players IMO.
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Post by explorer on May 30, 2019 9:08:20 GMT 1
Or put it another way, we've lost out on £12.5m. Its possible but unlikely. Hes thrived at Forest and at that level and has had a long injury free run which will have helped massively. At Town, even fit, he was likely to be in and out. The disappointment as far as we're concerned is, like Ince, we let them leave but replaced them with inferior players IMO. Thing is Slapps, we can’t really say that until we’ve see Joe play in the Prem and Diakhaby / Mbenza play in the Championship. It’s a whole different level as we found out. Will be interesting to see how it all works out.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 9:08:58 GMT 1
Seems to make light work of Premier League defenders... Show us another goal then against Premier League defenders. Why be a jerk when you know he only scored one goal, and only had the chance to play a small bit part in six Premier League games (only one of which we lost...those were the days!), where he did a pretty decent job all things considered, and certainly demonstrating he would likely adapt to Premier League football more readily than Tom Ince, who had the starting berth and did pretty much nothing going forwards or backwards at that time.
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Post by turbo2 on May 30, 2019 9:19:13 GMT 1
Could become Scott Arfield Mark 2. Defo. Such a shame these types have to leave before doing the business. I guess they need to find an environment they feel comfortable in before they deliver In all honesty joe was never really fit for any period of time while he was with us ( was he here nearly 4 years??) Anyway good luck to him and fingers crossed we get a few million that we weren’t expecting
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 30, 2019 9:28:12 GMT 1
Show us another goal then against Premier League defenders. Why be a jerk when you know he only scored one goal, and only had the chance to play a small bit part in six Premier League games (only one of which we lost...those were the days!), where he did a pretty decent job all things considered, and certainly demonstrating he would likely adapt to Premier League football more readily than Tom Ince, who had the starting berth and did pretty much nothing going forwards or backwards at that time. Jerk? 😂😂 You stated ‘seems to make light work of Premier League defenders’. Once. Big wow. He didn’t cut it for us, hope he does for someone else, if he does, good for him, doesn’t change the fact he didn’t for us.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 10:22:20 GMT 1
Seems to make like work of Premier League defenders whenever he’s had the opportunity.
In his couple minute cameos, he contributed more than Tom Ince....it’s not his fault there aren’t more highlights of him scoring goals, he was a victim of a managerial style that has been demonstrated didn’t always put “getting the best combination of 11 players on the pitch” at the top of his list of things to do.
It’s actually pretty odd thinking back...it felt like we had to play Ince because he was a bit of a profile signing, even though he struggled to have any kind of impact whatsoever in those early games, and yet the opposite seemed to happen with pretty much everyone we signed this last summer.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 30, 2019 10:48:59 GMT 1
In his couple minute cameos, he contributed more than Tom Ince.... Really? If we are just taking one moment, like you did with Lolley’s goal, I will raise you one Ince goal v Watford. That goal earned our club over 1 million English pounds with our final league placing. I would say that is more of a contribution to our club than a consolation goal v West Ham.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on May 30, 2019 16:30:02 GMT 1
Or put it another way, we've lost out on £12.5m. Its possible but unlikely. Hes thrived at Forest and at that level and has had a long injury free run which will have helped massively. At Town, even fit, he was likely to be in and out. The disappointment as far as we're concerned is, like Ince, we let them leave but replaced them with inferior players IMO. It wasn't forward thinking nor did we do a good enough job on what his potential was. Ince is another matter. At least we sold him for £10m plus. What did we get for Lolley? Pennies. He didn't turn into a £10-15m player after a few games with Forest. He was always worth that, we just didn't being it out in him.
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on May 30, 2019 20:56:50 GMT 1
Could become Scott Arfield Mark 2. And just like Scott Arfield Mark 1, we were right to let him go at the time we did. Both players have thrived since they left Town but neither of them really did the business for us. Certainly not on a consistent basis. These things happen in football, but I think it's safe to say neither Arfield nor Lolley would have become the players they are now had they stayed at Town. They needed a move, and they've made the most of them. Good luck to 'em. Dont mention Scott Arfield, how can any professional footballer admit they did not try hard enough like Arfield admitted about his time with Town. They is either something drastically wrong with the way we bring players on, but there again, both player and manager are to blame. On another note, how much did Forest pay for Lolley if i remember rightly it was one of those undisclosed fees that Town seem to be in favour for the last few years.
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on May 30, 2019 21:03:49 GMT 1
And just like Scott Arfield Mark 1, we were right to let him go at the time we did. Both players have thrived since they left Town but neither of them really did the business for us. Certainly not on a consistent basis. These things happen in football, but I think it's safe to say neither Arfield nor Lolley would have become the players they are now had they stayed at Town. They needed a move, and they've made the most of them. Good luck to 'em. Dont mention Scott Arfield, how can any professional footballer admit they did not try hard enough like Arfield admitted about his time with Town. They is either something drastically wrong with the way we bring players on, but there again, both player and manager are to blame. On another note, how much did Forest pay for Lolley if i remember rightly it was one of those undisclosed fees that Town seem to be in favour for the last few years. Oreeet Bill how ya doing lad Utty
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Post by yoy on May 30, 2019 23:23:19 GMT 1
And just like Scott Arfield Mark 1, we were right to let him go at the time we did. Both players have thrived since they left Town but neither of them really did the business for us. Certainly not on a consistent basis. These things happen in football, but I think it's safe to say neither Arfield nor Lolley would have become the players they are now had they stayed at Town. They needed a move, and they've made the most of them. Good luck to 'em. Dont mention Scott Arfield, how can any professional footballer admit they did not try hard enough like Arfield admitted about his time with Town. They is either something drastically wrong with the way we bring players on, but there again, both player and manager are to blame. On another note, how much did Forest pay for Lolley if i remember rightly it was one of those undisclosed fees that Town seem to be in favour for the last few years. I’m pretty sure there’s some poetic license being applied here. My recollection was that he said it didn’t work out as he’d hoped. Not that he didn’t put effort in.
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Post by irverino on May 31, 2019 0:49:03 GMT 1
If Joe ends up at Villa, well done....hard work does pay.
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