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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 10:47:06 GMT 1
“When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick.”
So if defending a freekick...
...isn’t it theoretically possible to create a loose-ish wall say along the long edge of the penalty area...and all attackers would have to be at least a metre on side of that at the point the kick was taken?
...or...groups of defenders could wander about in a box, not in a wall, and then just run and form a wall by an attacker in the seconds as the freekick taker takes his run up, resulting in a free kick to the defending team?
I wonder if we’ll see split multiple walls of groups of three, with 2 metre gaps between them, to prevent attackers from being in dangerous positions?
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Post by drumriggend on Jun 6, 2019 10:52:42 GMT 1
“When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick.”So if defending a freekick... ...isn’t it theoretically possible to create a loose-ish wall say along the long edge of the penalty area...and all attackers would have to be at least a metre on side of that at the point the kick was taken? ...or...groups of defenders could wander about in a box, not in a wall, and then just run and form a wall by an attacker in the seconds as the freekick taker takes his run up, resulting in a free kick to the defending team? I wonder if we’ll see split multiple walls of groups of three, with 2 metre gaps between them, to prevent attackers from being in dangerous positions? Kin hell.. You need to get out more bro🤓 |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 6, 2019 10:59:02 GMT 1
Thought this was about someone banned called Kicky Walls!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 11:16:14 GMT 1
“When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick.”So if defending a freekick... ...isn’t it theoretically possible to create a loose-ish wall say along the long edge of the penalty area...and all attackers would have to be at least a metre on side of that at the point the kick was taken? ...or...groups of defenders could wander about in a box, not in a wall, and then just run and form a wall by an attacker in the seconds as the freekick taker takes his run up, resulting in a free kick to the defending team? I wonder if we’ll see split multiple walls of groups of three, with 2 metre gaps between them, to prevent attackers from being in dangerous positions? Kin hell.. You need to get out more bro🤓 You not interested in my thoughts on the other rule changes then?!! The most interesting ones are the below...although I suspect the one which will cause most confusion is the change to handball. If a ball hits a referee and sets up an attack or gifts possession to the other team, it’s now a drop ball restart. Bad thing...all part of the pantomime of the game. Dropped balls are formally now totally uncontested in all circumstances, you can’t be closer than 4m to the player the ref decides to drop ball to 😡 bad thing...all drop balls should be contested and a free for all get stuck in with immunity to commit any offence until the ball has moved six feet. Defensive freekicks and goal kicks now no longer have to leave the penalty area before being played (yaaaay)...although an attacker wanting to intercept a goal kick must be outside the penalty area at the instant the kick is taken. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jun 6, 2019 11:54:54 GMT 1
Kin hell.. You need to get out more bro🤓 You not interested in my thoughts on the other rule changes then?!! The most interesting ones are the below...although I suspect the one which will cause most confusion is the change to handball. If a ball hits a referee and sets up an attack or gifts possession to the other team, it’s now a drop ball restart. Bad thing...all part of the pantomime of the game. Dropped balls are formally now totally uncontested in all circumstances, you can’t be closer than 4m to the player the ref decides to drop ball to 😡 bad thing...all drop balls should be contested and a free for all get stuck in with immunity to commit any offence until the ball has moved six feet. Defensive freekicks and goal kicks now no longer have to leave the penalty area before being played (yaaaay)...although an attacker wanting to intercept a goal kick must be outside the penalty area at the instant the kick is taken. Fascinating 🛌 |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 6, 2019 12:52:12 GMT 1
Kin hell.. You need to get out more bro🤓 You not interested in my thoughts on the other rule changes then?!! The most interesting ones are the below...although I suspect the one which will cause most confusion is the change to handball. If a ball hits a referee and sets up an attack or gifts possession to the other team, it’s now a drop ball restart. Bad thing...all part of the pantomime of the game. Dropped balls are formally now totally uncontested in all circumstances, you can’t be closer than 4m to the player the ref decides to drop ball to 😡 bad thing...all drop balls should be contested and a free for all get stuck in with immunity to commit any offence until the ball has moved six feet. Defensive freekicks and goal kicks now no longer have to leave the penalty area before being played (yaaaay)...although an attacker wanting to intercept a goal kick must be outside the penalty area at the instant the kick is taken. SO MANY RIDICULOUS AND UNNECESSARY RULE CHANGES. It makes you wonder how these clowns get into a position of power within the game. That one about kicking off was beyond daft.. Meanwhile serious time wasting in the first half, feigning injury etc seems to go on without comments.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 6, 2019 13:13:13 GMT 1
“When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick.”So if defending a freekick... ...isn’t it theoretically possible to create a loose-ish wall say along the long edge of the penalty area...and all attackers would have to be at least a metre on side of that at the point the kick was taken? ...or... groups of defenders could wander about in a box, not in a wall, and then just run and form a wall by an attacker in the seconds as the freekick taker takes his run up, resulting in a free kick to the defending team? I wonder if we’ll see split multiple walls of groups of three, with 2 metre gaps between them, to prevent attackers from being in dangerous positions? I doubt very much that's the intention of the rule change. It'll be just to cut out the pushing and shoving in the wall. The ref will still draw his line ten yards from the ball and its up to the defenders to form a wall there if they wish. The attackers will be able to stand where they want as long as its not within a yard of where the line's drawn/end of the wall. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 6, 2019 13:47:44 GMT 1
You not interested in my thoughts on the other rule changes then?!! The most interesting ones are the below...although I suspect the one which will cause most confusion is the change to handball. If a ball hits a referee and sets up an attack or gifts possession to the other team, it’s now a drop ball restart. Bad thing...all part of the pantomime of the game. Dropped balls are formally now totally uncontested in all circumstances, you can’t be closer than 4m to the player the ref decides to drop ball to 😡 bad thing...all drop balls should be contested and a free for all get stuck in with immunity to commit any offence until the ball has moved six feet. Defensive freekicks and goal kicks now no longer have to leave the penalty area before being played (yaaaay)...although an attacker wanting to intercept a goal kick must be outside the penalty area at the instant the kick is taken. Fascinating 🛌 😂😂😂 |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 6, 2019 14:08:56 GMT 1
“When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick.”So if defending a freekick... ...isn’t it theoretically possible to create a loose-ish wall say along the long edge of the penalty area...and all attackers would have to be at least a metre on side of that at the point the kick was taken? ...or... groups of defenders could wander about in a box, not in a wall, and then just run and form a wall by an attacker in the seconds as the freekick taker takes his run up, resulting in a free kick to the defending team? I wonder if we’ll see split multiple walls of groups of three, with 2 metre gaps between them, to prevent attackers from being in dangerous positions? I doubt very much that's the intention of the rule change. It'll be just to cut out the pushing and shoving in the wall.
The ref will still draw his line ten yards from the ball and its up to the defenders to form a wall there if they wish. The attackers will be able to stand where they want as long as its not within a yard of where the line's drawn/end of the wall. No need to change the rules, refs just need to enforce the existing ones. You cannot push and shove, grab hold of, tug shirts etc at any other time so why has it recently become acceptable at corners and free kicks? |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Jun 6, 2019 15:05:19 GMT 1
If the refs had balls and started to book, send off or award penalties it would soon stop. Unfortunately they will not be backed up by either the EPl or EFL when the clubs start complaining. Big difference between football and rugby. The RFU back there refs to the hilt
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 15:22:48 GMT 1
I doubt very much that's the intention of the rule change. It'll be just to cut out the pushing and shoving in the wall.
The ref will still draw his line ten yards from the ball and its up to the defenders to form a wall there if they wish. The attackers will be able to stand where they want as long as its not within a yard of where the line's drawn/end of the wall. No need to change the rules, refs just need to enforce the existing ones. You cannot push and shove, grab hold of, tug shirts etc at any other time so why has it recently become acceptable at corners and free kicks? Which rule says you can’t do that?? Pushing, holding, jumping at, charging etc is only a direct free kick if deemed to be careless, reckless or excessive force. So....given that football is a contact sport, some level of jostling for position is perfectly normal and acceptable. Usually ref would only give a pen or free kick if someone was physically prevented (by pulling or pushing) from actually playing the ball, most non violent contact in and around a crowded penalty area would be fine. Unless there’s a keeper involved, in which case it’s a freekick if you sneeze in their direction. |
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Post by Melc on Jun 6, 2019 17:20:17 GMT 1
They can have as many rules as they want, but will the dozy refs imply them? The six second rule for goalkeepers holding the ball in their hands for starters, when did that last get applied in a game ,because I can’t remember one!
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 7, 2019 6:06:14 GMT 1
Sausages.
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Post by ageingterrier on Jun 7, 2019 9:30:28 GMT 1
I'm 100% with OE63AD and 28901 on this. Changing rules doesn't change behaviour and obfuscates the problem. It's high time the spirit of the rules was overridingly followed. The Jack Taylor's and Roger Kirkpatricks didn't fanny about with the letter of the rules they just allowed the game to flow and spoke to the players during play to maintain control.
In days of yore, no one set out to be a referee. They were chosen for their abilities to command respect. Modern refs are petty functionaries with small man syndrome. In my view anyone who wants to be a referee shouldn't be allowed within a mile of a whistle. Feeble minded automatons like Friend and Oliver are an abomination!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 18:47:24 GMT 1
I'm 100% with OE63AD and 28901 on this. Changing rules doesn't change behaviour and obfuscates the problem. It's high time the spirit of the rules was overridingly followed. The Jack Taylor's and Roger Kirkpatricks didn't fanny about with the letter of the rules they just allowed the game to flow and spoke to the players during play to maintain control. In days of yore, no one set out to be a referee. They were chosen for their abilities to command respect. Modern refs are petty functionaries with small man syndrome. In my view anyone who wants to be a referee shouldn't be allowed within a mile of a whistle. Feeble minded automatons like Friend and Oliver are an abomination! That would decimate football. The shortage of referees at grass roots level is already a sizeable problem. Take away the enthusiasm of young people to become referees and the game will die. That doesn't mean the standard couldn't be better. |
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Post by terriertim on Jun 8, 2019 19:34:14 GMT 1
Rule 25c Paragrah d subsections w and f
At no point will a footballer enter the field of play and kick the ball - the referee will abandon the game at such a point and award a default result to the side who have not kicked the ball.
Fapping at half time in the showers will result in an immediate penalty aware to the opposing side at which pint the fattest pie eating bastard from the side supporting the team awarded the free kick will enter the field of play and be allowed to take said awarded penalty. However due to rules mentioned above he will not be able to kick the ball and must use another part of his anatomy to try and score. ie Belly or bellend if he so desires.
fCKING RULES WILL RUIN THE GAME OF FOOTBALL !
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Post by softboy on Jun 10, 2019 17:19:56 GMT 1
So if there is a back pass to the keeper and he picks it upp a foot from his line and all defenders line up on the line no attacking player is allowed to take the free kick as they are not 1 metre from the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 17:29:28 GMT 1
So if there is a back pass to the keeper and he picks it upp a foot from his line and all defenders line up on the line no attacking player is allowed to take the free kick as they are not 1 metre from the wall. Attacking indirect free kicks for offences inside the six yard box are taken from the goal area line. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 10, 2019 17:44:40 GMT 1
Noticed in these nations league games a new rule where the linesman does not flag for offside until the passage of play has broken down-- either the attackers have had a shot or the defenders have got the ball back.
Absolute bollocks it is.
BLATANT offsides and play continues... just in case it goes to VAR is the reason, so a potential goal isn;t incorrectly stopped before its had the chance to be scored.
But they don;t flag even when its 5 yards offside!
VAR has its merits but it is going to fuck the game up.
Listen to the manager moan when his player gets crocked during one of these irritating 'play-ons' because the lino wouldn't flag an obvious offside!!
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Post by 28901 on Jun 10, 2019 18:01:26 GMT 1
Noticed in these nations league games a new rule where the linesman does not flag for offside until the passage of play has broken down-- either the attackers have had a shot or the defenders have got the ball back. Absolute bollocks it is. BLATANT offsides and play continues... just in case it goes to VAR is the reason, so a potential goal isn;t incorrectly stopped before its had the chance to be scored. But they don;t flag even when its 5 yards offside! VAR has its merits but it is going to fuck the game up. Listen to the manager moan when his player gets crocked during one of these irritating 'play-ons' because the lino wouldn't flag an obvious offside!! It will completely ruin the spectacle as we know it, enjoying the moment will be lost forever. I cannot understand how anybody doesn't see that now. It doesn't even put an end to controversial decisions. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 10, 2019 23:30:16 GMT 1
Yup. That moment of ecstasy and shock when you score a goal will go.
Muted celebrations because it hasn't been confirmed yet.
I dont think theyve considered for one minute the damage it does to the spectacle of the game.
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Post by impact on Jun 10, 2019 23:50:34 GMT 1
Noticed in these nations league games a new rule where the linesman does not flag for offside until the passage of play has broken down-- either the attackers have had a shot or the defenders have got the ball back. Absolute bollocks it is. BLATANT offsides and play continues... just in case it goes to VAR is the reason, so a potential goal isn;t incorrectly stopped before its had the chance to be scored. But they don;t flag even when its 5 yards offside! VAR has its merits but it is going to fuck the game up. Listen to the manager moan when his player gets crocked during one of these irritating 'play-ons' because the lino wouldn't flag an obvious offside!! They are meant to flag for the obvious ones, it's just tight ones where they let play go on. They're meant to then flag when play dies down. Tbh they are that late at flagging these days anyway I don't think the injury point is any more relevant than it is now. It drives me crazy as it is. |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 11, 2019 9:02:39 GMT 1
Yup. That moment of ecstasy and shock when you score a goal will go. Muted celebrations because it hasn't been confirmed yet. I dont think theyve considered for one minute the damage it does to the spectacle of the game. I think they have and they don't care. There is power and money to be made. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 11, 2019 18:06:56 GMT 1
Im not sure there is power and money to be made from VAR ( unless you own the VAR technology!)
Get the reasons for it.. to cut out the big obvious errors that cost teams points, even trophies.
But not sure football suits this like other sports do.
Its supposed to be for clear and obvious mistakes but already its being used for the minutest error.. a centimetre offside or a very debatable foul.
So a decision might be overturned correctly, but at what cost?
One of the major reasons why people watch the game is that moment of joy that a goal creates.
Lose that, and we are doing, then it takes way more from the game than VAR gives it IMO.
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